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Discussion in 'Verizon' started by gloriousnumber1, Jul 20, 2013.

  1. gloriousnumber1

    gloriousnumber1 Android Expert
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    I heard a while back how Verizon has plans to eventually provide voice service by "VOLTE" (Voice Over LTE) which is similar to Skype and other calling over internet type of services.

    I also know that they are continuing to soak up all their data covered area with LTE so it will soon be everywhere. I also know that LTE enabled smartphones on Verizon are the only option, so within a few years, just about everyone on a smart phone will have LTE.

    Finally, I know (actually, we pretty much all know The things I'm talking about here) that that will eventually spell the end of a separate voice network. It will be dismantled and replaced to be more efficient, and of course make more money due to the increase of data used by Verizon customers.

    SO, here is my question. I currently have a Galaxy S4. With all LTE phones I've had (this is #4), there have been areas, especially in some buildings where I lose LTE and go to 3G, 1X, or even lose all data. Losing voice is rare other than in very rural mountainous areas for the most part. Verizon has always done a good job of providing excellent coverage as much as anyone ever could.

    I see a big problem here, and I hope they have figured this out. I don't see how VOLTE is going to be practical, unless those dead spots are taken care of. They need to get their AWS-LTE going soon, so that the speeds are boosted, and they do something about signal strength. I'm happy to be corrected here, but it seems that the frequencies used by the voice networks and 3G seem far stronger for penetrating through walls and into the various areas where LTE is present but not usable.

    The reason I left T-Crap almost 5 years ago was for this reason. I had no smartphone, I didn't even text back then much LESS use data. However, their signal strength, network, frequency, or whatever it was refused to penetrate most buildings and anything near the outlying areas. A $30 pair walkie talkies were far more reliable unless I was outside in the open, and in a well populated area.

    I am hoping that Verizon won't get this way. They would seriously be in big trouble and lose a good chunk of their customers if VOLTE was activated with anything similar to the network that exists now still in place.

    I'm not the most tech-savvy guy around, but I am no idiot. IF anyone can explain this to me and how it would work, even in theory, I'm all ears. I just would never depend on LTE to cover my voice needs even now with a good phone and in a well covered area.


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  2. Nodzarf

    Nodzarf Member

    Will their unlimited calling be using data from the data pool of everyone's plan? If so, I think it's back to square 1 when you went over your plan calling minutes, except now would you be exceeding your data limit and be charged overage fees?
  3. gloriousnumber1

    gloriousnumber1 Android Expert
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    Good point! Like for me and my wife. I have unlimited data because I got it when it was offered and haven't upgraded my line. I could use whatever until Verizon yanks it but if she got close to her data cap and used too much data for calls, it would be overage city!
  4. copestag

    copestag Android Expert

    Im no expert in the field....... but one thing I as well as everyone else certainly knows...... verizon isnt going to do anything that doesnt increase their profits

    you have to consider several issues which would contribute to your concerns....
    the chief among them being that the volte will leave you without voice in many circumstances..... much like you currently cannot get 4G sometimes..... even in a good coverage area

    my guess is that 3G will be with us for many years to come...... much like 1x (2G) has remained in place for many years to alleviate those areas where 3G gets cut out..... and they may even leave that in place as well for a bit..... til they get up to speed

    another consideration for the switch to volte is what does this do to 'dumb'phones?

    if you remove normal (in this case) cdma from the picture and only have volte then everyone must have a smartphone....... which means everyone must sign up for data plans

    Ive never seen the numbers...... if they are even out there...... but I would have to guess that a very sizable portion of verizons business is dumbphones....... I can name probably 20 people I know personally, without even thinking hard, who dont have a smartphone... until a year ago my teenage daughter was among them

    will the increased revenue from charging data for phone calls and switching the few dumbphone users who will stay with them make up for the great many dumbphone users who will go somewhere else?

    who knows...... certainly not me....... but I bet thats a question someone asked somewhere in a meeting

    again my guess is they will leave cdma in place for several more years to come and simply offer the volte as the next evolution for the "gotta have it now" crowd.... in which case it would be your choice to make over how good your coverage actually is
  5. gloriousnumber1

    gloriousnumber1 Android Expert
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    You have brought up a great point! I know lots of people without smartphones also. No doubt that leaving the voice network in place longer will mean those people will also be squeezed for money.
  6. Old Member

    Old Member Android Expert

    I'm confused. I can currently call via Hangouts using 4G. Is the only benefit of signing up for a VoLte plan that it will show my actual cell number rather than my Google Voice number?

    FWIW, I RARELY use Hangouts to call. When I do, it's to keep people from having my cell number.

    What are your thoughts?
  7. hilmar2k

    hilmar2k Android Expert

    Using voip is different from VoLTE.
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  9. hilmar2k

    hilmar2k Android Expert

    Skipdawg and Old Member like this.

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