pfft.. She wouldn't listen or budge at all either. Biggest thing she said was she gets less bars on it(along with all other HTC's) Tried to tell her about looking at the signal instead of bars, and how I was reading it doesn't show full signal when not in use to save the battery or whatever. But noooo... the moto is still better hands down.. Got frustrated and left cause there were no Inc's in stock anyways, and she kept trying to sell me on the moto, even though I said I don't want it. Have checked all the best buys, and Vzw stores around me. Closest one with them in stock is in Alabama-- 109 miles away. Now I just cant decide if I should wait to see if one of the places get them in stock soon (people are saying some BB's are still getting them in.) or just bite the bullet and order it online. Sorry, felt like a posting a small rant somewhere.. heh Oh, and hello all!