General We should start posting on sprint facebook page to ask for release date

Not sure what has been going on on Facebook but people have been asking on twitter for weeks lol

It's worth a shot I guess

 

Except we don't know if the decision rests with Sprint. If HTC is not ready to release, Sprint has to wait.

 

I know all about the bootloader thing but I don't really follow Facebook at all. I just know that I've seen plenty of tweets asking Sprint/HTC for the 3D release date, but I don't think it was anything organized.

 

Or... this was their plan all along, but this way the consumer feels like they won a battle (the more likely answer IMO).

 

That doesn't explain the more recent HTC phones already released with the encrypted-signed bootloaders.

 

I bet Sprint's Facebook would have been flooded with 3D release date requests already, just like the Twitter account, but they have their wall "closed," unlike HTC. You can comment on posts they make, but you can't start a new comment/post.

 

Eh, you never know. They could have had a timeline for this, or have been mulling it over for a while. I doubt that it was just the people posting that got them to change their minds. If that's the case, let's all start posting that they should give us our phones for free.

 

The low level facebook and twitter employees won't know.

 

come now. all decisions by corporation are about $$. HTC decided that the potential loss of customers was a greater liability than what they would gain by keeping the bootloaders locked.

Even if every HTC prospective buyer lobbied for a free phone, HTC would say no.

 

Yes you can - click on "Most Recent" in the top right hand corner of the wall posts to see what people have written on their wall. It just defaults to Sprint-only messages.

 

Yup, or you can just follow this:

Sprint - Wall | Facebook

 

Hmm, I didn't know that, Thanks. Just goes to show you how often I use "The Facebook."

 

Jeez, Sprint's replies to release date requests are nothing but immature and unprofessional snark.

If that's Sprint's idea of good web presence, it certainly explains a great many things about their understanding of how we must love bloatware on web-capable phones and stonewalling from a corporate entity.

 

Planning for a revolt that you would guide into a solution that is your end result sounds like movie plot or a conspiracy theory.

Likely it is what is taken at face value. HTC wanted to be able to control what is on the phone to reduce costs in customer support and RMA due to inexperienced hackers making modifications to the core system files without proper procedures/instructions being followed. So, therefore, locking the bootloader would create that control and make it so their upgrade process would be controlled, as well (they know exactly what your phone has, so they know exactly how to upgrade it). So, I imagine, they weighed the cost benefit of reducing CS and RMA time/money used on something they control by locking the bootloaders against losing thousands of prospective new customers and previous loyal customers and it simply isn't cost effective. So the bootloaders will get de-encrypted, but very likely to stay locked (although S-OFFing a non-encrypted bootloader is reported to be child's' play).

I also believe it will be a retroactive patch within the 30 day return period of whenever the Evo 3D launches for the Evo 3D. The Sensation will likely have one within it's 30 day window, too. After that, I think we could expect to see a TBolt and a few other of the newer generation phones get it. Anything legacy (meaning no longer being sold) is likely not to get it.

 

Yeah, I get that the fanboys can be annoying by constantly spamming the same message over and over again, but as an employee representing a company, don't you have to be above that, and essentially moderate?

 

You'd think so.

I particularly noted when it seemed to me that someone asked about availability as their first question - we were all noobs once - and got sarcasm for a reply.

If I were to guess, it would be that their metrics for performance included page hits and number of responses made to people - with no regard to message content.

Making fan comments personal? OK --- who hired the nephew?

 

I don't use Facebook. Can you elaborate?

 

I'm not sure that the people that manage the Facebook account are necessarily low level. It isn't in the interest of the company to have lower tier employees commenting on behalf of the company unless they are in charge of public affairs.

 

I tried Facebook for a day - got the heck out.

In this case, I used Jackietreehorn's link, above, and it kinda sorta looks like a long forum thread.

I read the comments. The users themselves range from normal to flaming dolts.

But ignoring the blathering, and just looking for 3vo release questions - eventually, you find this Sprint avatar with a guy signing his name Nicolaus (spelling?). He's got nothing positive to say. "Hey don't spam for the answer, it's all good." "Gee, what a new idea, ask for the Evo 3D release date."

Pure snark and sarcasm was all I saw.

In the time it took to mouth off and with a whole lot less effort, he could've simply pasted some standard corporate answer.

What's wrong with repeating it, even if it is a stock answer?

How many times do I care when someone asks how to get to swype? I just answer the question.

Why do people repeat the questions, how to use swype and when will the Evo 3D be released? Because they don't know.

Hey Sprint - try the polite answer - and repeating it won't kill you.

 

I think its funny when you think a corporation can't have a 20 year old posting responses on Twitter or Facebook. Someone on a lower tier is highly likely to monitor Facebook and Twitter. Who do you think are flying multimillion dollar planes and running the National Security Agency in the US to hunt down terrorists? It's lower level individuals, if not those in the military. Gesh, doesn't take rocket science to post on Facebook or Twitter by someone in a corporation. Hell, it could be Sprints IT department responding and apparently nobody at higher levels is paying attention if employees are making smart ass remarks on those forums.

 

I posted asking about the release date and got immediate replies from Sprint fanboys about how I was just being impatient and immature. "It will be here just be patient." "Just get a different phone." I tried explaining to them that I wanted THAT phone, but they didn't get it. I also tried explaining that I wasn't being impatient, I was just trying to get information so I could plan finances and whatnot. Still didn't get it. Eventually, "Tammie" from Sprint replied and said "It will release this summer." Super helpful. I read some other posts from her, and she wasn't rude, but all she ever said was "I'm sorry for your issue. Email sprintcares@sprint.com" or something like that.

 

I blame management.

Don't know about age assumptions. Some of our staff are that young and younger and yet comport themselves with great courtesy.

It may not take rocket surgery to post, but there's no good excuse for bad manners.

It's when people try to get all slick - argumentative with attitude - that public posting exchanges break down.