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Discussion in 'Wear Os' started by moklata, Feb 28, 2020.

  1. moklata

    moklata Lurker
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    What do you think of a Full Android smartwatch? I mean a standalone smartwatch with 3GB RAM /32 GB ROM and running Android 7.1.
     


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    Post #2 by codesplice, Feb 28, 2020 (6 points)
  3. codesplice

    codesplice Elite Recognized Moderator
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    Pass.

    Android isn't optimized for small watch screens which means that the manufacturer/developer has to do a lot of work shoehorning it to work - and doing so often winds up violating Google's compatibility standards which means that many Android watches don't get to use the Play Store. Thus users have to go to third-party app repositories which are often less-than-safe. And that's not even considering the nightmare of syncing such a device with a phone.

    Wear OS isn't perfect and it's missing a lot of features but Google put a lot of thought and effort into its design, and the result is something which is pretty supportable. Going "full Android" would certainly make a watch (potentially) more capable but you're going to sacrifice a lot of basic usability in the process. I'd rather have a simpler device which just works than a complicated one which doesn't.

    I've seen a lot of full Android watches and I wouldn't buy (or recommend) any of them.
     
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  4. moklata

    moklata Lurker
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    Thank you for ur replay ..what about this
     
  5. Unforgiven

    Unforgiven ...eschew obfuscation...
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    Why would I want an ugly knee capped Android experience that looks like Windows phone?
     
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  6. codesplice

    codesplice Elite Recognized Moderator
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    Lack of Play Store access (or an established/reputable ecosystem like that of Samsung's Gear watches) make it a non-starter for me, not to mention that Android 7.1 is positively ancient and no longer getting security updates. If I'm going to let a device keep track of my location and fitness information then I need to know that such data is secure.

    If I wanted to wear a phone on my wrist then I'd attach a strap to the back of my phone and have a much better experience than what that watch can offer. ;)
     
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  7. moklata

    moklata Lurker
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    ;) becouse I see it every where this days
     
  8. dontpanicbobby

    dontpanicbobby 100% That Guy
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    Don't let that exaggerated screen picture fool you. These inexpensive Chinese smart watches look much better in real life and actually work for a time. Some even have cameras and are under $25 USD. You'll get at least a year of use for that much moolah.
     
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  9. moklata

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  10. moklata

    moklata Lurker
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    Really! Which Android watch do you think is more better: kospet, zeblaze or lemfo?
     
  11. dontpanicbobby

    dontpanicbobby 100% That Guy
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    I do not know these brands.
    I may be thinking South Korean products?
     
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  12. codesplice

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    I guess I just don't see the appeal of full Android in a watch. I get that these tend to be less expensive than the better-supported Wear OS alternatives but it's not hard to find a great deal on a Wear OS watch - I picked up a Fossil Watch Sport for $62 earlier this year.

    With that, I got a swim-proof watch which is a reasonable size, runs Android 9, has access to the Play Store, and receives regular security updates. It works great for interacting with (not simply displaying) notifications, tracking my fitness activity and workouts, playing music for me during those workouts, making secure mobile payments via Google Pay - oh, and telling time in an infinite variety of custom watch faces. Wear OS may not have the level of developer support enjoyed by the Apple watch but I'd wager that it's still significantly better than that of any of these unknown brands.
     
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  13. Hadron

    Hadron Smoke me a kipper...
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    Curious that my laptop browser won't load the photo (makes me wonder about the website).

    But those dimensions! 7.5cm (the width of a large Android phone) x 5.2cm (beyond the lug-to-lug length of any watch I'd wear) x 17mm (almost as thick as the watch I'm wearing today plus my fitbit combined). Please tell me that's a joke? You could not afford to pay me enough for me to wear something like that on my wrist.
     
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  14. ocnbrze

    ocnbrze DON'T PANIC!!!!!!!!!

    yeah i'll pass on that watch. i actually like samsung's tizen os for their watches. i have both the s3 and its sports watches and they do what i want them to do. i really like their fitness app. it actually will provide a map of where i walked along with graphs of my avg speed, heart rate, etc. the only wear os i have is the lg urbane which i rarely wear.....its ok.

    plus i will always stay away from cheap chinese products.....sorry
     
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  15. good4life

    good4life Newbie

    I'm going to rekindle this thread by saying I own both Wear OS and Full Android Watch(FAW) watches. I think they both have their strengths and weaknesses depending on your use case. The 'use case' is important to appreciate because most people are looking for a 'fitness tracker 1st' and a smart watch 2nd.

    For me, I started my search for a smartwatch with the idea that it would be a stand alone device, so I could 'give up' my phone (read decrease screen time). I went with a ZTE Quartz smartwatch. It uses an esim on T-Mobile. Now, I know it is a 'budget' watch with few features but, the low cost/feature set would be enough for me to evaluate Android Wear/Wear OS. After using for a few months I came to the conclusion that the underlying use case for Wear OS is to be dependent on a phone or to be an extension of the phone and this realization was not going to move me towards my desired objective.

    At this point I heard about FAWs and started my research. I ended up getting a Kospet Hope 3/32 to try out. The quality was very good and it gave me the ability to proceed towards a stand alone device. I got a 4G LTE nano sim and was off to the races.

    After using the Hope and now the Kospet Prime for over a year total, I can honestly say that I don't miss my phone at all. I am able to make/recieve calls and texts without missing a beat. I am able to connect the watch to bluetooth to stream You Tube Music or Google Play Music. I can use as a hotspot for my tablet when I am out and about. It comes with fitness apps or I can d/l Google Fit. Other than screen size there is very little difference to me using a phone. I have access to the Play Store and its apps so life is really good. I easily get 1-2 days with say, 2 hours talk time total and 3 days with light usage from the battery, All positives that I wear and don't have to carry.

    The biggest negative is that is stuck on Android 7.1.1 and will probably never be updated. But for me, that is okay because I can still do everything I need to do without my phone. If you have thought about 'playing' with a FAW, and can spare approximately USD$160, I strongly suggest you check out the latest watch releases.
     
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  16. urphonesux

    urphonesux Newbie

    I like FAWs because at this point wearos is utterly disappointing. I found a Fossil Explorist 4 on letgo for $35 and found myself regretting my purchase even at that price point.
    I'd previously had a LG urbane and a Moto 360. Of those the 360 was easily my favorite.

    A few days after receiving the Fossil I stumbled across this video from Mr ticks



    And purchased the KronosBlade Genesis based on what I saw
     
  17. mikedt

    mikedt 你好

    Sounds like a rather basic and disappointing device actually. I wouldn't have a smart phone or tablet of those specs, and I can't see any reason to have it as wristwear either.
     
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  18. good4life

    good4life Newbie

    Speaking of tablets... I have a Samsung Tab A 8 inch and it is worse than my Kospet Prime in performance. It is so slow!

    That said, my Prime smartwatch phone has allowed me to make receive phone calls and texts on the go, much like a phone. The difference for me is that I've worn a watch longer than I've carried a phone so it's completely natural for me. There's nothing worse than losing your phone in the back of an Uber/Lyft.

    So, for me and my use, if I need to sure the web for extended time, I used my Chromebook. For taking calls while I run around the city, I use my watch.

    One thing that has not been mentioned is the support community available for the watches. These guys are good, friendly and helpful. Check them out: www.discourse.fullandroidwatch.com
     
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  19. urphonesux

    urphonesux Newbie

    Wearos specs are even worse. Look at the responsiveness of the genesis.
     
  20. Barsqvannah

    Barsqvannah Lurker

    My friend, if u don't mind me asking, what phone carrier do u use with ur smart watch.
    I just purchased one. And every time I call a carrier, they ask me is the device unlocked. I purchased it brand new.
     
  21. AmeliaNorth

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    I'm not an expert, but in my opinion, smart watches are very useful for everyone. My daughter went to school, and the first thing I did was buy her a smartwatch. I can see all her movements and I can be calm. It can use them to call and send an SOS signal. This is very convenient, and I believe that every child and adult should have such a watch. This is primarily security. I read a review about the watch here https://findyoursmartwatch.com . I chose the VTech Kidizoom Dx2 smartwatch review model. This model is really amazing and all benefits that were describer really work and I'm very happy!
     
    #21 AmeliaNorth, Oct 7, 2020
    Last edited: Oct 11, 2020
  22. Hadron

    Hadron Smoke me a kipper...
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    "Everyone" is a very strong claim to make. ;)

    Leaving aside members of the 50 or so uncontacted tribes in the Amazon region, for whom a smartwatch would be of no conceivable use, I can personally think of quite a few people I know who would have no use for one, and many others who have no interest.

    But the topic wasn't smart watches in general, but smart watches running a full android build rather than a smartwatch OS. And most people thought that was much more of a niche interest.
     
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