With the Iphone 4 and 5 when it come out on Big Red will we See Fascinate 2 with orion proceesors and light or will they stick to that Werid designed LTE Phone the brong out at CES?????
What do you think Samsung will do compete....
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Galaxy S2 will be announced in MWC soon in Spain. Now all the sources point to kind of semi-official spec like 1.0~1.2Ghz Orion dual core processor, 2.3 gingerbread on board, 4.3~4.5" super amoled plus screen, 1Gb of RAM, NFC sensor. But I think they will put out GSM versions first and CDMA later like last year. So we don't know when it will launch on Verizon, hopefully not too late after iPhone5.
The other thing I am looking at is whether Samsung will do away with RFS file system in this phone finally or not. If they still go with RFS, would it be still fast enough with better processor, memory and OS? If so, rooting will make this one super charged rocket maybe...
The other thing I am looking at is whether Samsung will do away with RFS file system in this phone finally or not. If they still go with RFS, would it be still fast enough with better processor, memory and OS? If so, rooting will make this one super charged rocket maybe...
given that samsung doesnt use rfs in the nexus s (theres still debate as to whether gb is native ext4 or yaffs or something) i would doubt they d use it in any device they launch in the post 2.2 world...their upcoming 2.2 phoens (galaxy s refreshes) all use rfs though
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but this is from samsung so it makes it sound good, which it is not, but it does explain what rfs are.
Again, I have to ask, what would be the optimal file system for the Samsung MoviNAND installed on the Fascinate?
I'll hazard that the same company that makes the NAND most likely engineered the filesystem to be optimal with it.
Don't get me wrong, I love open standards, but ext3, ext4, FAT, NFS, and most other file systems actually tear up NAND pretty fast (Due to heavy re-write).
ext4 works significantly better and as long as you dont plan on using the phone for 2+ years its not an issue (or shouldnt be)
samsung uses either yaffs or ext4 in the nexus s (i forget) and that phone stock smokes all of the other galaxy s phones despite it having virtually the same hardware
ext4, because of the journaling, with greatly shorten NAND life. Remember, NAND is generally only good for 10,000 writes.
So, yes, ext4 is faster. But, ext4 is write-intensive. It appears to be faster, because the write is placed in RAM first, then written to disk. Followed by the journaling update.
Also, remember the lifetimes of any device is "Mean time between failures". This means, that some chips will go at 5 years, a few of them 11 years, and plenty of them will go in a year.
I mean, come on. I've read at least two people on Phandroid here who can not load certain recoveries because they have too many bad blocks.
Yes, the Nexus uses open file systems (ext4). I'll leave the exercise to you to figure out why a Nexus phone would use stock Android settings, with no proprietary optimizations.
fair enough. several thousand galaxy s users (and 99.9% of every galaxy s dev) are plenty happy with voodoo (ext4) on their phones though
fair enough. several thousand galaxy s users (and 99.9% of every galaxy s dev) are plenty happy with voodoo (ext4) on their phones though
I'll agree it's fast, and will work for plenty of people. However, given the results of extreme writes on a NAND device, I can see why the company who would be responsible for warranty work would decide to sacrifice performance for reliability.
Now, the genius move, from both sides of the bottle would be JFS. It's open, unless you are reselling. Then, you license from IBM. Samsung would have a great file system (The journal only updates the b-tree), and we would have an open-architecture file system.
Good informative discussions on flash memory and file systems. I appreciate.
I learned that Nexus S has iNAND type internal memory from SanDisk. So that probably works better with ext4 file system in 2.3. I guess Samsung will go this way for Galaxy S2 and later models.
I learned that Nexus S has iNAND type internal memory from SanDisk. So that probably works better with ext4 file system in 2.3. I guess Samsung will go this way for Galaxy S2 and later models.
While I'm not sure which brand/type of NAND is better; I'd hazard Samsung will stay with Samsung engineered NAND
While I'm not sure which brand/type of NAND is better; I'd hazard Samsung will stay with Samsung engineered NAND
Maybe. I just hope Samsung does something better than MoviNAND plus RFS combination in the new generation of Galaxy this year. Looks like we will soon know about it.
its significantly better yes.....however i still wish verizon wasnt a pita and would get dev phones like the nexus s...i mean we were promised the n1 originally...until they jerked us around and gave us the droid incredible instead
No clue at this point. The non-US markets are less sensitive about this it seems. THe US models may get something else. It really depends on the performance of 2.3+ and the memory vendor when it get's benchmarked internally and we evaluate the longevity of the memory. Perhaps if we used memory that had better error correction or block recovery, the use of a more aggressive file system would be tolerated. QA is a bitch
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