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  1. orhanservice

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    Everybody knows that Huawei phones are getting away from Android. So people using Huawei including me is very depressed. What should we do neither we are able to sell our devices nor have any other possibility to make our phones live
     

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    i did not know this. maybe this is because it is not being sold in the US. that does suck. are they doing their own OS?
     
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    Moved to the Android Lounge. :)
     
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    I think this is too early to say. It may be resolved, especially if (as I rather cynically suspect) a lot of the motivation comes from the US's current trade dispute with China rather than genuine security concerns. Or it may not: it might be that Huawei do develop their own OS, and develop their own SoCs in future without further input from ARM, and end up competing with Android in many markets. Time will tell.

    Here and now, your phone isn't going to stop working. Huawei have said that they will support them, and actually phones will continue to work for years without system updates. It certainly is a bummer if you are one of those people who buys a new phone regularly and sells the old one to finance this, much less if you are one of the people who buys a phone and then uses it until it no longer does the job. But either way I'd say wait a couple of months and see how it develops.
     
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    "Whawei still uses Android?
    Just not in the US I guess.
     
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    They're still using it everywhere. Indeed there was a 90 day stay put on the ban, so they're still good with Google at the moment.

    Nowhere else has banned them. Some companies have cancelled orders for some handsets because of the uncertainty, but they're still widely available.

    All indications are that we're some way away from them releasing their own OS, but I'd not rule out that happening next year. You may not see it in the States, we may not see it here in Europe for a while, but there are other markets they can use to establish it. And even if the current spat is settled in the next few weeks I'll be amazed if they don't push plans to reduce dependence on American companies (or companies vulnerable to American influence).
     
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    I'm using a Huawei, I'm not depressed, and the sky isn't falling yet. Only thing I'm thinking, my next phone maybe a Samsung later this year, by which time I'd have had the Huawei for two years.
     
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    This whole mess is still a disaster-in-progress. Given there's little documented evidence against Huawei on this particular matter it's pretty clear this is mostly politics, where a company with a questionable history is an easy target to be used to incite a fabricated trade war. It's a victim based on guilt-by-association, where actual, factual proof has yet to be revealed. Maybe Hauwei is at fault, maybe not but at this point there's a lot of damage already done. Google's ban is easily justified by hiding behind politically biased rhetoric.
    There are other alternative, operating systems of course, but competing against Apple and Google is a real challenge,
    https://fossbytes.com/android-alternatives-open-source-linux/
    https://www.theverge.com/2019/5/21/18633772/huawei-app-gallery-google-play-store-rival-trump-ban
    and even if the software aspect can be implemented, ARM has suspended doing business with Hauwei, the issue being to create a new processor from scratch is a really involved project:
    https://www.forbes.com/sites/zakdof...ows-to-huaweis-smartphone-plans/#5635b7d270f9
    Plus several other chip manufacturers like Intel, Qualcomm, and Broadcom have banned Hauwei too so things don't bode well:
    https://www.theverge.com/2019/5/19/18632075/intel-qualcomm-huawei-ban-us-chipmakers-report
     
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    And now it seems that the ban on Huawei products is on further hold. And all of the latest statements I've read make no mention of security concerns, not even claiming that any action has been taken to alleviate them. In other words, it's increasingly clear that this was just a trade dispute.

    But I expect that Huawei will want to test the water with their own OS anyway, because if nothing else this will have shown them that reliance on Android may leave them vulnerable in future.
     
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    Their biggest headache is hardware, not software.
     
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    Quite frankly I don't think Huawei ever was a security threat, and it was bluster from the POTUS.

    Real security threats may come from some of those nice "free" apps and games that come out of the PRC. That have all permissions possible, and phone home. The "Cheetah Mobiles" of the mobile software industry.
     
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    Yes Huawei itself isn't a security threat, but it could be used by someone and becomes a security threat.
     
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    The irony is that high-end Huawei phones are too expensive for consumers in China, and when they have enough of money they would buy an iPhone instead. Lower-end devices face ferocious attack from other brands and don't sell as good as expected.
     
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    Apparently CCP members were told not to buy iPhones, because it doesn't fit in with "The Core Socialist Values" that party members must uphold.
    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Core_Socialist_Values

    I've certainly noticed the prices of new Huaweis have been creeping up.

    I'm thinking my next phone might be a Samsung, purchased in the UK probably.
     
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    I'm sure by far the biggest security threat for a very long time, the world over, is Microsoft Windows. Which is a US product of course. I'm sure @MoodyBlues would agree.
     
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    Samsung is a good choice, anyways you might already have Samsung-made screens or memory chips on your phone's.
     
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    I'm on Huawei and I recently had an upgrade to Android Pie, so I'm not going to slit my wrists just yet...
     
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    The UK military assessment of Huawei network gear boiled down to "no evidence of malice but sloppy engineering means it has vulnerabilities". Personally if I were building a 5G network that would give me pause.
     
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    Lol! Yes i too just got a nice slice of Pie on my phone. Woohoo! :thumbsupdroid:
     
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    I've got an S7 at the moment, in addition to my Huawei. But I'm looking at Note9 possibly. And it will be an international one, because the PRC Snapdragon variants they have here are pretty much impossible to add Google Play to them. The Huawei Mate 10 it was very easy. They new PRC Huaweis and Honors, can't add Google Play.
     
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    Yes, definitely! :D

    I forced myself to refrain from writing a reply the other day. The OP had a disk usage issue, and asked, 'Do you think the incorrect disk usage shown on Task Manager could be due to a software bug?' My reply would have been, 'Yes--and its name is Micro$oft window$!' Then better judgment kicked in and I didn't say it. *shrug*
     
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    Their os will likely support Android apps.
     

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