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What idiot would make a device camera without a flash??

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  1. Bg260

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    AFAIK, only one tablet has been touted for taking great pictures. That would be the iPad. About $1000 more than your Tab 4.
     

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    All my tablets don't have flash but not like I used their back cameras anyway. I can't picture myself pulling out my 10" tablet to take a picture of that cat that stole my muffin. I have my phone or camera for that.
     
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    Thats Shocking That You didn't Notice This Thing while Purching !
    Anyways , How's it ? I mean in Working ! Other Things are ok or You have any other complaint as well ?
     
  4. zuben el genub

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    My old Acer was too slow to run At Bat. The Tab4 ran the videos but not well. Would not do other programs which are more important.

    The new Acer does work. It doesn't have too much junk on it and it does run my programs. I have books on the SD card on the old Acer which I have to transfer to the new Acer. Been downloading freebies for years. I prefer the ereader.

    For reading, I bought an inkBOOK ereader. It's from the EU and doesn't have Google.
    I don't need Google. The market that did come with the reader is sufficient.

    For photography, the Moto XPRE is no slouch. I also carry a Canon SX50 with me.
    I do have a Canon 20D and will use that for certain things. (filters for one)
     
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  5. Phoenix777

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    I'm Batman :batdroid: Lol
     
  6. Phoenix777

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    It's shocking that you didn't notice I already Answered all these things lol ;) Love It!
     
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    Maybe I should break out my Ancient Canon EOS Rebel G :D
     
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    As Luna said above, the Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014) certainly has one - mine is right next to me, and I can see it on the back. Way too bulky to make a useful flashlight though. ;)

    I've never been tempted to use a tablet as a camera though, and usually avoid flash if I possibly can (occasionally as fill-in when using a proper camera, but I prefer natural light in almost all cases).
     
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    Hey, I saw someone using a film camera just a couple of week ago! :)

    (I still have my Olympus OM-1, manufactured in 1973. Actually it still works, since apart from the light meter, which consisted of a needle in the viewfinder, the whole thing is mechanical. And despite being full frame it would fit inside my Nikon D7100 without touching the sides anywhere ;)

    That said, I never use the OM-1. I just couldn't really part with it.)
     
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    Hey, we like using our Fujifilm Instax instant picture camera. :thumbsupdroid:

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    I still got a made in USSR Zenit 11 at my dad's house. Completely mechanical, no batteries required.
     
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  11. zuben el genub

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    There is a whole photo school on existing light photography (no flash)
    With all the newer apps like Camera FV5 which give some phones all the control and some phones some of the control like an DSLR, you can do a lot without flash.
     
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    I had no idea! I guess I need to join that school lol. But what about when there ISN'T any (much) light? For example at night outside and not a lot of streetlights (or any other kind of lighting)? What do they do? I guess they use an artificial light or flashlight of some kind...but that's rather cumbersome. Oh well. Not a big deal...it certainly doesn't make or break the deal for me...just find it kinda strange that they would put together such a wonderful tablet chock full of features and abilities and omit the flash.
     
  13. lunatic59

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    While I like my Tab4 and use it almost every day, I certainly wouldn't describe it as "wonderful" or feature rich. It's a fairly low end device as mobile devices go. Now if you want to include "for the price" then I'd be forced to agree with you. ;)
     
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    It's strange because I hear many people saying this...and it's a "low-end tablet"..."not feature rich", etc. But I have to disagree! I swear I use my Tab 4 like a darn power PC ... it's amaaaaazing and does everything my MacBook Air does...even more actually when you consider the Tab 4 is not just a fully featured internet device but also an eReader (I have the Tab 4 Nook). I think it's packed with amazing features....fast too! And I got an SD card so it has tons of space and memory....what more could I want? Well, besides a flash camera LOL
     
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    Grab the best shot that you can, or forget it. :)

    Switch to manual mode, ramp the ISO up to 1600, hold the phone VERY steadily and squeeze the shutter button like it's made of fine bone china.... you'll still have some blur but the image will still convey more than anything shot with the low-power LED flashlights fitted to most cameraphones. :)

    If it's black, and in otherwise good order, get it valued asap. The meter can be fixed cheaply, and that baby is probably worth £££. :) If it was an OM-2 I'd make you an offer myself.... those puppies are legendary!
     
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    I like your thinking! :D Not sure how to set the ISO to 1600 though. I'm guessing it's in my Camera app settings somewhere? I'll have to play around with it more tonight...
     
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    @Phoenix777 are you using the stock camera app? I've got the Tab 4 Nook as well and can take a look for you when I get home.
     
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    Yes, I am. Thanks!
    How do you like it? I love mine! I have a nice laptop but ever since I got my Tab 4 Nook I rarely use my laptop lol
     
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    Not counting the wife's Tab4 and her new S7 Edge, I've got 4 Android Phones, two Android tablets, a iPad (yes, I know) three desktops, five laptops and two servers. Who's got the time? ;)

    I think it's perfectly suited as a multi-function e-reader but I won't be putting my Note 10.1 up on eBay anytime soon. ;)
     
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    Geeeezzz you're worse than me! You're a ... a ... Lunatic! :D
    (Pssttt...I have a MacBook Air)
     
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  21. zuben el genub

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    You make what is called a Barn Door or Scotch mount for your camera and turn the adjuster every so many seconds to track for astronomical photos.

    Otherwise a good sturdy tripod and long shutter settings. You can get a decent holder for a cell phone or tablet.
     
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    The OM-1 is silver. And there's nothing wrong with the meter, just needs a new battery.

    I'm afraid you are too late for the OM-2. I had one, but when my brother's one broke (the later model, OM-2 spot/program) I gave mine to him. That one was black (I wanted to know at a glance which was which).
     
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    ^ This.

    If you want to take photos in properly low light, a tripod is your friend.

    If I don't have one I support the camera best I can, frame the shot, then use the self-timer to take it - eliminates movement from pressing the button.
     
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    The exposure options on the Tab 4 seem to be limited. I tried both with the stock app and the Vignette app. When you increase the sensor sensitivity (ISO) it simply blows out the exposure. And the artifacts are pretty obvious.

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    This is in a relatively well lit room with no flash and a median sensitivity.

    Here is the same shot with my Nexus 6, same lighting, no flash.

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    And speaking of cameras, I still have this ...

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    Good grief you just wanted to show off:p
     

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