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Discussion in 'Android Devices' started by tardman91, Aug 4, 2010.

  1. tardman91

    tardman91 Member
    Thread Starter

    I'm still debating whether or not to root my N1. I'm not really interested in loading custom ROMs or anything at this point, so what else can I do with a rooted phone, or should I even bother if I'm not looking to load a custom ROM? If I just root the phone and don't load a new ROM, can I still get updates from Google or do I have to do load them another way?

  2. mkrmec

    mkrmec Well-Known Member

    don't bother if you don't wanna try AWESOME custom roms.. as long as you don't replace the original recovery you will get updates from Google. heck even I got them with a custom Recovery but you can't update Google Updates with custom recoveries.
  3. Talderon

    Talderon Android Expert

    I rooted and stayed Stock for a while because it let me uninstall apps that I normally could not uninstall (Amazon MP3 and Google Goggles).

    However, now that I rooted, I just decided to install Enomther's ROM and am SOOOOOOO glad I did. I have a black status bar (hate the white and there is also issues with it burning into your screen), easy Spare Parts app that allows me to uninstall unwanted stock apps, download the HTC camera app that allows for 720p video recording and other stuff that I like to mess with.

    All in all, root and try out custom ROM's.

    Just remember, unless there is a major update that you fixes issues you have, you don't have to re-flash every version that is released... :)

    [How-To] ROOT Your Nexus One without Unlocking the Bootloader. ALL ROM'S!! - Google Nexus One Owners | Google Groups
  4. Roze

    Roze Hiding behind a mystery

    I'm always curious, when a custom ROM is updated...you need to reflash your phone with the new ROM right..so would that mean you have to backup everything and instal the new ROM (similar to a factory reset?) or is the update overlaid over the existing ROM?
  5. tardman91

    tardman91 Member
    Thread Starter

    Good point. I'm coming from iPhone land and I hated having to redo everything (reinstall, redo all the settings, etc.) every time a new update came out that I wanted and I had to rejailbreak and unlock the phone. Is it the same pain in the ass with Android if I run a custom ROM?

    If I were to root the phone, what type of things can I do with it while still running the stock ROM? Anything special or cool?
  6. snakeybidder

    snakeybidder Well-Known Member

    I just did it but im on fr91 rom. Sooooo glad i did. I have lowered my cpu slightly for battery deleted all crappy apps (phone feels smoother). Basically these were the main reason i wanted to root!! Now ill see how it goes but custom roms dont attract me to be honest at mo.
  7. dvandam

    dvandam Well-Known Member

    I was about to post a thread about this as well. I recently unlocked my N1 using the 1-click root program, and now I don't really know what to do. From what I can tell, now I can go and load custom roms on my phone, but I don't know if I necessarily want to do that. Is there anything cool I can do with a rooted Stock FroYo phone. What programs should I get now that I'm rooted? I got the SetCPU app, but I don't know how to use it in a beneficial way. I thought I'd be able to overclock my phone with it, but unless I'm not understanding something, it looks like I can't do that. Also, am I missing something? Why can't I uninstall any app I want? I tried uninstalling that stupid Amazon MP3 app but it's not letting me. Any Suggestions?
  8. snakeybidder

    snakeybidder Well-Known Member

    Hi buddy, go into rom manager, you can download it from market now and allow it root access.

    You can then go into download roms. Id go with Cyanogen latest rom and try that first, you will then see the benefits of rooting ;) It will auto set your cpu to 1133mhz!!!

    You can set it to automatically backup your entire current rom with all settings and programs before it flashes new rom.

    Dont forget to click on "flash clockworkmod recovery" first before anything.

    The great thing about rom manager is everything is automated so no fussing with cmd or pc or anything!!

    Good luck and when you master that rom go onto the cyanogen nightly build, there even better and for me always extremely stable.
  9. Teknologic

    Teknologic Android Expert

    Isn't clockwork a bit less safe/stable than AmonRA's?
  10. dvandam

    dvandam Well-Known Member

    does that mean that the only tangible benefit of rooting is gaining the ability to install custom roms? I was hoping that rooting had other benefits as well.
  11. Talderon

    Talderon Android Expert

    Depends on the ROM. Most ROM's you do not need to wipe unless it's a major update and the Dev suggests it.

    Personally, I wipe when flashing. It takes about 10 minutes to get my setup back the way I like it.

    Titanium Backup (ROOT) works great in backing up your apps+data, but for me, I just do it manually.

    If you have your apps backed up to Google, then the next time you open the market, it will download and re-install your apps (I make sure I am on wi-fi for this). After that, set up your sync groups for contacts and email settings and it's all easy. With Launcher Pro, backing up and restoring my custom settings is a snap.

    I guess it's all in how you look at it. :D

    Rooting has other benefits in the fact that you can remove stock apps that you normally would not be able to uninstall. You can also run most apps from the market that are "Root Only". The issue with some are the Theme/MetaMorph ones. Those require you to have a Deodexed ROM so themes can be applied.

    For most people, no, there is no advantage of rooting. For others that are the more "geek" or "bleeding edge" types, it's fun and entertaining. :D
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  12. dvandam

    dvandam Well-Known Member

    Do I have to do a wipe first? If so, how would I go about doing that? I'd have to reinstall the Rom Manager, right?
  13. snakeybidder

    snakeybidder Well-Known Member

    After you root to cyanogen mod its intergrated anyway along with other cool settings ;)

    Just install rom manager pick cyanogen 6 rc2 and download, its all automated, just check backup current rom first.
  14. VMX

    VMX Well-Known Member

    Ok so now Im rooted.. how do I delete stock apps? I thought I could just do into my settings>applications and be about to unistall them? And how do I move all apps to my SD card?

    Also, if I decide to install a custom rom, and I back up my current rom. Does that mean I can just simply click something and go back to my current rom so I can recieve a ota update when it comes out?
  15. vico-c

    vico-c Newbie

  16. snakeybidder

    snakeybidder Well-Known Member

  17. mudrock1000

    mudrock1000 Android Enthusiast

    you don't ALWAYS have to wipe. on Cyanogen you don't. What witchcraft is this of which you speak?
  18. dvandam

    dvandam Well-Known Member

    I've hit a snag on my custom rom escapades..

    I tried flashing the ClockWorkMod recovery and it appeared to install correctly, but when I try to boot into it via Rom Manager, it basically just boots into the regular recovery, meaning I can't run a Nandroid backup (which, from what I can tell, is CRUCIAL before installing a custom rom.) Does anyone have any tips? Is it because my bootloader is still locked even though the phone is rooted? Do I need to do everything within Rom Manager? I did a backup within Rom Manager (Backup Current ROM) but I don't think that's the same thing as the Nandroid. Do I need to use the RA Recovery instead, which doesn't work as well with Rom Manager?

    On a probably related note, I just installed Titanium Backup and it claimed that I do NOT have root access, but Rom Manager and SetCPU claimed that I do. Do I have some sort of "quasi" root access going?
  19. Talderon

    Talderon Android Expert

    If Titanium Backup states that it cannot access root permissions, chances are, something was skipped.

    [How-To] ROOT Your Nexus One without Unlocking the Bootloader. ALL ROM'S!! - Google Nexus One Owners | Google Groups

    Follow those instructions item by item. It's been tested and re-tested.

    Links to all files needed are included.

    One note about recovery: I have never used ClockWork Recovery. I have only used RA on my N1. I have heard of certain ROM's having issues with ClockWork so I stay clear.

    Yeah, can't do some of the easier "one click" stuff with RA that you can with ClockWork, but I like to do it manually anyway. :D
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  20. dvandam

    dvandam Well-Known Member

    I used the Universal Androot app to allegedly root my phone. Should I run that Universal Androot app and tell it to unroot first, or should I just try this procedure as-is?
  21. Talderon

    Talderon Android Expert

    Does not seem that you were rooted at all, so I would try the steps outlined in the post linked above.
  22. dvandam

    dvandam Well-Known Member

    Just did the method you described and now I'm 100% rooted and have CyanogenMod running on my N1. Now I just need to figure out how to use it properly..
  23. Talderon

    Talderon Android Expert

    Another reason to ROOT:

    More room for apps!

    I have a TON of apps installed and am currently using 64MB of internal storage memory and have 132MB FREE.

    How? By moving the Dalvik Cache to /cache on the device.

    Why is this a GOOD thing?

    Well, running a custom ROM means you will not get OTA's. /cache is a 90MB partition that is reserved for the sole purpose of staging any OTA's that are downloaded. Result, it's 90MB of wasted space.

    For the ROM I am running (Enomther), you can move your Dalvik Cache to the /cache partition which takes it out of the main memory of the device, puts it in a place you can't use anyway and POOF! Instance space! Using this option, I was able to reclaim almost 70MB of data space for more apps and whatnot! :D

    Just thought I would throw out that bit of info for those that still want more benefits for rooting. :D
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  24. crowell392

    crowell392 Newbie

    How do I change the white status bar to black on the C M R C 3
  25. juliusedward

    juliusedward Newbie

    Using rom manager and clockwork recovery, can i just flash CM6 RC3 rom?
    Do I have to update the radio first?

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