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What will replace your N1?

Discussion in 'Android Devices' started by happy0506, Mar 20, 2011.

  1. stalkythefish

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    Still using mine, but I've installed ICS on it to tide me over.

    Not long now. I'll probably upgrade in November or December to either the "Nexus-4" or whatever it ends up being called, or the mystery "HTC Era" on T-Mobile, which is rumored to the true G2-followup, T-Mobile's One-X variant (which may or may not be the Era), or if all else fails a used One-S from Ebay. I'm not too keen on Samsung phones and the camera on the Galaxy Nexus is zero improvement from the N1 camera.

    The storage space problem is getting really painful though. I've got updates I can't install because there isn't enough internal space to unpack the .APK files. I'm constantly having to wipe Chrome's data in order to free up space, despite it being installed on SD.
     

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    I'm still on my Nexus one (2.3) as well and was wondering if ICS runs properly/smoothly on my current phone. Should I upgrade it or just get another phone. Contract is up for renewal so.
     
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    Nope. ICS won't run on the N1. Not enough memory.
     
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    That's what I thought. Just some guides on how to install 4.0 on a nexus one and a youtube clip. Didn't look convincing for me to update the OS though.
     
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    It was a tough day for me when I got rid of my Nexus One, but sadly it was beyond it's time. I sometimes miss HTC phones, but this Galaxy S2 I carry as my daily driver reminds me why Samsung continues to kick butt in the mobile market.
     
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    Hands up if you're still rocking the N1 daily and it still kicks ass! :D

    Still use it for hours every day and as GPS and it's still very snappy, doing all I need/want it to. Even battery life is still very good! Props to HTC.

    Oh and I'm also still on a (slightly tweaked) vanilla ROM ^^
     
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    Still on my N1 latest CM7. Contract runs out in a month and just weighing up my options. I had pretty much decided on getting the One X, but that ship sailed since there was an issue with the wifi antenna.

    I'll just hold off on making a decision after the new iPhone.
     
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    Still hanging in there with my N1, stock (but rooted). Internal space is a big PITA now... really the only reason why I want a new phone.
     
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    I replaced my beloved N1 with an iPhone 4s. Lasted 6 months before selling it and getting a Galaxy Nexus. The iPhone is very good at what it does, but for someone who enjoys tinkering around, its downright boring. I'm happy to be back in the Android family...
     
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    I think I'm about ready to let go of my N1. Still runs well but I'm lusting after new hardware.

    The N4 looks great. Not a huge phone, it's larger, but it's impossible to get top of the line hardware without a larger screen now. I'm on T-Mobile so I'll just buy it from Google and get a new micro sim from them.

    No SD card slot and fixed battery aren't great, but to be honest in real world use they won't impact me. I put a 4 gig card in my N1 when I got it and haven't used that up, and have never removed it. And the only time I take out the battery is when the phone freezes up and I want to force a reboot (seldom). Without a removable back plate I suspect that the phone will be better sealed against dirt and should be more solid.

    Wireless charging will cool, as long as it's not to hard to pick up a second or third charging station.
     
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    I'm leaning towards replacing my N1. The space issue is really getting annoying. The headphone jack got looser (headphones come out quite easily now) after significant use (I listen to music every day on the subway to/from work).

    4.7" seems huge to me. I'm worried about a significantly larger phone fitting well in my pocket.

    I'm on T-Mobile so I'll just buy it from Google and get a new micro sim from them.

    Not everybody uses the card slot. I do; I have some 16 gigs filled up right now. To me it seems that those who don't use the phone to listen to book/music and/or watch stuff (in situations like public transportation or even travel by plane) don't really need the extra space. The move away from the card slot (which seems fairly common) sort of bothers me but phones do come with more space now so it's becoming less of an issue.

    The fixed battery DOES bother me. I know it's rare but batteries do break. It happened to me on an old phone (some 10 years ago) and if you intend to keep it for a long time it's nice to be able to replace the battery, as it does hold less of a charge over time. But more importantly, how to you "force reboot" it without removing the battery? I've had to do it a few times on my N1 and I can't think of an alternative (other than wait for the battery to die completely and then charge it again... might be a long wait:D).

    As it stands I'm leaning towards the HTC Desire X. It's moderately priced, still a fairly small size (4"), removable battery, SD card slot and you get 25gb of storage on Dropbox. Dual core, but should be ok for a while.
     
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    There are apps that will force a reboot that act the same as a battery pull. They generally require root, but I would expect that to happen pretty fast for the N4. The power button no longer works on my N1 making it essentially a device with a non-removable battery, so I have been using a software force boot for some time. ;) Thank goodness for CM7. It gave me an extra year with my N1. Love pure Google ans am going for the N4.
     
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    Problem is the only times you need a battery pull is when it's completely unresponsive. So apps won't do you much good then.
    The N4 is very appealing, especially for its price. It's hard to fathom how the N1 cost almost double and still was a steal at that time...
    On the other hand my N1 still does all it needs to, despite feeling a bit dated. The thing that's keeping me from making the jump is the huge screen. The N1 was literally perfect size for me. And a full inch more seems to much of a stretch, I have one or 2 pair of pants with pockets a bit too tight for comfort with the N1 in. Also don't have the biggest hands so I couldn't see myself swype away quite as comfortably as on the N1.
    4.7 is just too much.

    ... sigh...
    Nothing will be like the N1 again. I wish they just did a refresh of it. For the next nexus release; just slam a T3 or the top benchmark at the time in there, replace the amoled with SSSamoled-S or whatever Samsung likes to call it by then. 2 gigs of ram and I don't give a good grief about internal storage, as long as they keep the awesome build quality, along with the mSD slot of course.
    And well yeah, some of those new super energy efficient wireless chips of course.

    I know you read all my posts Google, so... THANKS IN ADVANCE! :D
     
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    I've never been in a situation where either my N1 or my Galaxy player (which does have a non-removable battery) were completely unresponsive. Maybe because, if I get anything wonky, it gets a reboot. ;)
     
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    One of the issues with the N1 SD slot that made it less useful was that you you had to shut down to get to it. If it had been accessible while running I could see using it a bit more.

    One solution space wise, for music at least, is to rip or convert your library at a lower bit rate. Not acceptable to everyone, but if you're only listening via headphones and not using your phone as a mobile media station. Ripping at the next level lower bit rate will probably give you another 25-30% space without impacting quality. This solution isn't ideal for video since it the will be noticeable. I used to commute by train and watch videos on my Palm LifeDrive by swapping 4 gig SD cards so I did a little experimenting to get a usable quality to space ratio.

    Based on what we've seen online, it looks like the battery will be easy to get to and replace, so I wouldn't let that be too much of a concern. If you're looking for daily battery swaps, obviously this doesn't solve that problem.

    Usually there is a combo of holding buttons for a reset. Older iPods did this when they locked, and I'm pretty sure there is going to be a procedure for the N4 (and probably for every other phone too).

    Sounds like you might have another phone in mind. There are a ton of great phones out there now, in some ways it would be nice if they did more niche designs. Someone in this thread mentions a refreshed N1, with a nice screen, more space and CPU, but the same basic size. I've been holding out for that and wish someone would do it, but I can't hold out any longer. The call of a new phone, with the benefits of vanilla android and direct support is too much.

     
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    That's a lot of work for say... 10gb of songs, and you don't get THAT much more space. Changing phones (even though presumably you don't do it that often) is also very easy - just pop the SD card in the new phone and you're good to go. I find there are various advantages to having an SD card and I certainly want one. I look at the N4 specs and I salivate until I get to "card slot: NO". :( <Sigh>

    If that were possible (use some sort of combination of keys to force a reset) then great. When the phone is completely unresponsive (and it has happened to me with my N1), the only option is to remove the battery.

    I hear you! Same with me. I LOVE the N1 and don't want a change; I just want an updated N1 (more space and faster CPU) and have been waiting for one to come out, but I'm beginning to think that's never going to happen and my N1 really needs to be replaced.

    Unfortunately for me the trend is larger screens (soon enough they'll be the size of a newspaper if the trend continues), non-removable batteries, more internal space but no SD slot. What I find odd is that many new phones (e.g. HTC Desire X, which I might end up getting) are being shipped with old Android versions (4.0.x). :(

    Vanilla android is indeed the way to go. I wish manufacturers gave you a choice: plain vanilla android or their version.
     
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    I'm still in the transition period between the N1 and N4. I haven't gotten a micro SIM yet, and I have a case on order. The N4 is pretty slick to hold, and since it's so much larger than the N1 it's just not as easy to grip one handed.

    That being said, "replace" is probably the wrong word. My N1 will continue to be used for lots of things, including GroopIP for VOIP calling through Google Voice.
     
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    I moved on from my beloved N1 to a Samsung Galaxy S3. I didn't think I'd be able to get used to its much larger size, but I get by ok. The N4 with no removable battery and SD card slot was a no-no. :( Maybe next time I replace my phone...
     
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    If you got torx screw drivers then yes you can remove the nexus 4 battery, its already been proven
     
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    I moved from a Desire (the poor man's Nexus 1) which I loved to a Nexus 4. The N1 was great, the N4 is awesome.

    Have to say, I wasn't sure about the size, the lack of SD card etc etc, but I'm now a total convert. My Desire feels like a kid's toy now. Not that it sees the light of day much. I don't recall being particularly concerned about the speed of the Desire but suddenly, things that took forever now happen almost instantly.

    If you loved your N1, the N4 has to be top of your list when it comes to a replacement.
     
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    wow, 2+ years ago i started this thread and this thread is still going! the n1 will always be one of my favorite phones. i upgraded to the gnex and ordered the n4 today because my gnex was stolen yesterday.

    i still have my n1, it has now become my mp3 player. it still feels so solid. amazing how far android has come in two years. the ui and functionality has advanced so much.
     
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    I agree. The N1 will always hold a special place for me, even though I sold mine (to a very special friend). I've had my N4 since the first release -- I was one of the lucky ones who's order went through -- and you won't be disappointed.
     
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    Ran into this forum in my Bookmarks. After my N1 went to the Galaxy Nexus and in September moved to the Moto X. I love the Moto X. Best phone I have ever owned. Last month I sold my Nexus One on eBay for about $80. I loved that phone but the limited memory made the phone useless after a couple of years.
     
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