For a good while, I think Im ditching gb. Reasons: - I dont like the wifi hot spot issues (I dont trust moto or verizon, yes I realize this came from only moto....that doesnt mean they dont ever work together, obviously). - I dont like all the bloat ware; it seems like I cant nail down what I can remove. I can remove some apps and be fine, others and be fine; but any certain combination of certain ones and I get fc on the dialer. - I want to give the developers we trust (fission/liberty) a good amount of time to get through it. - I was looking through some of the manifest stuff on the settings (heard someone say they thought that was were the hidden wifi junk is) and didnt really feel comfortable with some of the stuff I was seeing. (Like I have a clue though). - Though it does seem smoother, I dont see the improvements being worth the things that make me uncomfortable. - I do not buy the quadrant scores....which means either Im wrong, or someone wrote a script (or whatever) to help bring the scores up. - Lastly, I much much prefer the fission 261 set up and having a significant gain in my knowledge about what is running and what isnt. On that note; I have every intention of donating again/and more to the guys I trust to do further work on roms for this version, as there are other devices out now they can work on and it is probably somewhat like starting over. Just my thoughts.