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Will the Xoom fail at Launch?

Discussion in 'Android Devices' started by Arcadia, Feb 19, 2011.

  1. Arcadia

    Arcadia Well-Known Member
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  2. JediJesus

    JediJesus Android Enthusiast

    I don't think it will fail but I do find it odd that Motorola and Verizon have done almost nothing to advertise the Xoom except for some adds in SI. Same goes for HTC and the Thunderbolt.
  3. Low023

    Low023 Newbie

    I just posted this on that Apple fan blog. lol

    "You got it all wrong, they have been vocal winning best of CES a bit over a month ago when it was announced and then again during MWC a few days ago. Meanwhile we heard directly from the CEO a week back on the exact pricing of the 3G model and WIFI version. Meanwhile commercials have been airing regularly.

    Also if you want to compare this next gen tablet to the old dominant one, I feel you must compare at least the price of the WIFI only model with the same 32gb gives you the exact same $599.99, I feel you are giving an overly Apple biased argument when you put a dual core 1ghz CPU up against a single core as well as the Xoom having 4 times the ram, expandable data space through a microSD slot, HDMI out, a front and rear facing camera a true widescreen with 16:10 aspect ratio running at a higher resolution on what some are saying is the best tablet operating system to date.

    Yes I'm planing on picking one up on Thursday and I feel it will more then likely out feature the iPad 2 as well.

    Typed from my iPad."
  4. melantus

    melantus Well-Known Member

    Does it really matter? Theres money to be made in tablet market. Players like moto, htc, samsung arent going let one bad launch stop them from trying again. Look at samsung the tab wasnt a huge hit, but there coming out with 10.1. People make it seem like if xoom fails android is going down in flames with it.
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  5. marctronixx


    just an article to rile up the street lookers and folks who are jealous of others who can purchase the tablet while they (the jealous ones) sit and wish.

    the tab will be a win for me.
  6. p8ntballah21

    p8ntballah21 Android Enthusiast

    I could care less if it "fails" as long as I'm happy with my purchase I doesn't matter to me if they sell 5 or 5 million of them
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  7. Mitchrapp

    Mitchrapp Android Enthusiast

    Of course if they sell only 5 then won't see any updates. Or improvement.
  8. melantus

    melantus Well-Known Member

    It will sell at least a million before its replacement comes.
  9. Mitchrapp

    Mitchrapp Android Enthusiast

    That's cool with me.
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  10. ghodzilla5150

    ghodzilla5150 Android Enthusiast

    That's wishful thinking at best. What's this BS about the SDCard slot NOT working out of the box. I have not heard about this yet. This is a total ClusterEFF if I have ever seen one. Motorola has done a horrible job of advertising the best Tablet so far. Moto and Verizon are FORCING people to pay extra to unlock WiFi (Activation Fee) and a 1 month data plan. This is ridiculous. What a way to screw up a great product before it even hits the streets. All the tech heads were so amped after CES and ready to lay down the scratch once it was released. Now that has dwindled and sales will not be as good as it would have been if Moto would have priced this accordingly and released a WiFi only model the same day. They will have a very hard time selling 500k units, let alone 1 million. Walking out the door and dropping $900+ for this device is a hard pill to swallow when shoppers still see the iPad in the same isle and laptops that do more for less. Good luck Moto, you are going to need it. I believe if people are patient, we will be able to find Xoom's for under $500 in a few months (especially when the iPad 2 drops). I will just wait it out. Sometimes being an early adopter is not worth it. Hopefully you guys don't kick yourselves when the price drops. I can already hear it now " We should get our discounts too, It's not fair, We bought early to be Beta testers". We have ALL heard this at some point and time.
  11. Mitchrapp

    Mitchrapp Android Enthusiast

    Beta testers? Maybe there isn't commercial after commercial but I see it advertised all the time. it also has much better specs than the iPad, so having it a higher cost is no worry. And I wouldn't be surprised if you see little improvement, spec wise on an iPad 2.

    600 for Xoom wifi is a killer price.
  12. gamul1

    gamul1 Android Enthusiast

    We have not seen conformation of that price yet. Just a "around" $600. But I agree, $600, even around $600 would be killer.

    But what I am looking for most is confirmation of when wifi only will be available. I've heard everything from same day as 3G to not till June. I'll probably be willing to wait for the wifi for a little - some time in March. But if they hold it back too long then they win, I'll buy the 3G.
  13. melantus

    melantus Well-Known Member

    If the tab could sell a million i dont see why the xoom can at least match that as i said was talking about a years time. It just a guess on my part as to when a new moto tab might be annouced or come out. Your assuming too that the moto will stay $800 until its replacement comes out that is highly doubtful. Seems you agree with that too godzilla. So i really dont think a million sold in years time is crazy to think.
  14. rushmore

    rushmore Extreme Android User

    It will probably "fail" to meet expectations and result in huge inventory- Just like the Galaxy. Samsung STILL has not quoted sell-out consumer numbers, only sell-in to retailers.

    Spin all you folks want, but $800 is too much and even tech geeks will stay away, since no USB host or likely path for getting past the boot-loader. The lockdown of wifi at launch should give folks a signal on the intent of locking down.

    On the other hand, I expect the $600 wifi version to sell pretty well and we will probably see it sold for $550 in a lot of places- sooner than later, since competition is about to get heavy (next few months).
  15. rushmore

    rushmore Extreme Android User

    Tab sold-in to retailers over a million. Not sold to customers. The price drops should be the clue there ;)
  16. rjoudrey

    rjoudrey Android Expert

    Do you get paid to post this stuff? If so can I do it too?
  17. gamul1

    gamul1 Android Enthusiast

    I really don't think $800 for this is too much. It's much better than the iPad with more power and ability for only $70 more. $70 well spent dollars. This is of course if you need/want the 3G. I've decided to try and hold off a couple weeks for the wifi only. Not because I'm afraid of the $200 extra. But I just don't think I need the 3G.

    If I have not hear anything about the wifi only within a couple weeks then I'll bite on the 3G.

    It's ok if $800 is not worth it to you. Does not sound like you need the 3G anyway. But pleas don't bash folks that are fine with the $800 model. To each their own.
  18. rushmore

    rushmore Extreme Android User

    No bashing folks here :) My main problem with this device is no USB host. Only mass storage mode, MTP and tethering. No host that the manual shows.


    I guess I AM bashing the device:

    1. About $900 upfront total cost (due to locked down wifi for a month and data required)
    2. No USB host
    3. Almost 100% guaranteed to be locked down boot loader (and whatever else).

    BTW, Apple can get away with higher prices due to an AMAZING app ecosystem. I currently have an Incredible, Droid and Gtablet, but also have a iPod 4 64gb. Android app options can not touch the app quality of evil Apple (they are). People buy iPads and iPods mainly for the apps and tunes. The iPad and iPod are a portal, for all intent and purpose.

    "iPhone" sucks due to no Flash and other constraints, but the apps rock real hard. At least Android has some kick-butt emulators! :)
  19. ren857

    ren857 Android Enthusiast

    I hate to burst your bubble, but "tech geeks" do NOT make or break the success of a device. Tech geeks make up not more than 8-10% of tech buyers.
  20. gamul1

    gamul1 Android Enthusiast

    the iPad price is the same since it launched. How many apps did the iPad have available at launch time? I know they have quite a few now. But a fairer comparison is launch time.
  21. ckeegan

    ckeegan Android Enthusiast

    That's actually incorrect. The million figure was sold (not distributed) a month after release, directly from Samsung. At a little less than three months after launch, Samsung corrected Yonhap News, saying that the 2 million figure was distributed.
  22. jvs60

    jvs60 Newbie

    Regarding USB Host, there are only 2 upcoming tablets with that feature, that i've read about. They are the Toshiba tablet and the Acer Iconia A500
  23. Mitchrapp

    Mitchrapp Android Enthusiast

    I think you meant to say quanity, not quality.
  24. ghodzilla5150

    ghodzilla5150 Android Enthusiast

    The TAB was NOT $800 at launch. The Tab was also reduced in price within 2 months because they were not selling well. I am looking forward to the $600 WiFi only Xoom. I think that is the iPad killer. $800, no way. It's imperative that you get the Average Joe Blow consumer behind your product. It has to sell in Wal-Mart, Target etc.etc. to gain market share.
  25. ghodzilla5150

    ghodzilla5150 Android Enthusiast

    Dude, I WANT the $600 WiFi Xoom. You can live in your fantasy world where the sky is Green, BUT in the real world this product will not sell well at $800.Samsung learned the hard way, that pricing your entry level gadget more than the iPad is suicide. They lowered the price WITHIN 2 MONTHS because it was tanking. Once the iPad 2 is revealed AND the other Android Honeycomb tablets start to materialize, the price for the Xoom will decrease rather rapidly. It's basic economics. $800+ $35 (Activation Fee) + $20 (1 Month Data at 1ghz) + Taxes = $900+ out the door. This is Reality not some made up numbers. Good luck selling that when the iPad is in the store AND there are laptops that are less. What part of this DON'T you understand. Don't get butt hurt because you are going to buy a Xoom that will have a price reduction in a couple of months (by then your 30 day window will have closed and you won't be able to take it back and get the difference). Same with the WiFi only model. They will wait until the 30 day window is over so the early adaptors can't take their's back. Just watch and see.

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