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Windows 10, Yay or Nay?

Discussion in 'Computers' started by Guggy, Jul 29, 2015.

  1. jefboyardee

    jefboyardee Extreme Android User

    I think they said that because they'll go under soon, trying to get 10 perform as good as 7.


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  2. Father Guido

    Father Guido Android Enthusiast

    Create an account and give "Toggle Tweaker" a try. BE SURE to get it from MDLF as there are many phony (virii) versions about. You can disable updates altogether among other neat things (like disabling Telemetry).

    Better yet, use the LTSB edition if you're up to a fresh install. You'll need to Google the checksum to find an ISO, but you'll never look back once you do. You'll need to read a few other threads over there to learn how to re-arm it every 180 days, but super easy.

    EDIT: And don't forget "Classic Shell" for a more Win7 like experience ;)
    #1377 Father Guido, Jan 28, 2017
    Last edited: Jan 28, 2017
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  3. AZgl1500

    AZgl1500 Extreme Android User

    "windows 10" is going to be the last "version issued", but it will be continually updated and morphed into something else as time goes on.... and it is already loading up with Linux modules to perform a lot of the under the sheets work.
  4. jefboyardee

    jefboyardee Extreme Android User

    Long Live Windows 7

    As the release of Windows 10 approached, I couldn't have been more excited. When it finally appeared, I backed up 7, just in case, and installed 10. Unbelievably, I didn't like it, but figured it was just me. So I restored 7, where everything makes sense. Over time, I've tried 10 about six times, each time telling myself that I'd finally stick to it this time. I never did. Windows 7 just looks tidier, behaves more reliably and seems like the best operating system Microsoft ever created. Sad but true...​

    Had to post a requiem on Windows7 Forums
  5. Yup. Slow and disgusting. Don't know what they were thinking with Win10. I was excited for 8 but didn't bite into it, and anticipated that 10 would be a FPOS too. My 8 YO Win7 Presario with 8GB RAM being the only upgrade will blow the panels off of any decent win10 machine I've tried. That's al we have at work now, and with all of the extra corporate security added to that, they're unbelievably slow...

    Mainstream shit all around seems to be going south quickly, Android included. I'm so fed up with the way Android is heading that I went back to BlackBerry. BBOS10 definitely needs a lot of work, but at least I can run my daily Android apps. Certainly leaps and bounds over Windows 10 mobile, which I was very disappointed with also.
    #1380 Spec2nirvash, Feb 21, 2017
    Last edited: Feb 21, 2017
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  6. Dngrsone

    Dngrsone Android Expert

    Ugh, tell me about it... We're still on Win 7 at work, but the added security and never-used VPN and chat software just drag the whole system down to nineties-level utility.

    ... and me an three other coworkers had the opportunity to buttonhole and harass an IT guy yesterday about the quality of our local network. He just couldn't believe that the whole network would lose connectivity on a semi-regular basis, nor that the problem hadn't been suitably resolved for years.
  7. Deleted User

    Deleted User Guest

    I have windows 10 32bit on my Aspire One D225E with 2GB of RAM i installed it using the upgrade tool and flashed it using a usb i had to use refus to create a bootable usb from win 10
  8. jefboyardee

    jefboyardee Extreme Android User

    Funny. I have, in my box of abandoned droids, one with the Marshmallow OS. Shelved in favor of my ancient KitKat.
  9. Wow, never really heard too many folks favor KitKat. Functionally pleasing, but the pure KitKat UI look is aesthetically nauseating. Plus the one/two finger drag-down bar was a pain. Only android I own (of many) that I adore, is my Nexus 5 running Lollipop. Perfection. I would still use it as a daily but the battery consumption is ridiculous. Marshmallow on the N5 did miracles for standby battery but made screen-on battery life even worse than Lollipop. Phone is perfect otherwise :(
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  10. jefboyardee

    jefboyardee Extreme Android User

    Well, someday, probably, I'll switch the numbers back and try again. But not today.
  11. rootabaga

    rootabaga Extreme Android User

    There are lots of tips and tweaks to make the face of Win10 look more like 7. I preferred to just learn it, though I did install GodMode to be sure I could find things during the process (same thing I did beginning with Win7).

    One of the annoyances with Win10 is the unsolicited tips (which are like ads and literally are ads in some cases). This little primer from Tech Republic will show you how to turn off all of them.

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  12. mrex

    mrex Android Enthusiast

    Win10 and the sh*ttiest update tools ever.. :mad:

    Used the whole evening trying to upgrade win 10 (1607) to Creator (17xx), but no go... WU is showing "coming soon", win10 creator upgrade tool downloads, verifies and updates until around 80% it gives a message that the windows isnt the latest one (build 1607) and there is a newer version (17xx). Well, no sh*t sherlock! That i was trying to do when used "you".

    After multiple trials and errors, i tried Media Creation Tool, and "upgrade now" (not the ISO option). The same sh*t happened again. I give up...
  13. dvhttn

    dvhttn Android Expert

    Hmmm. My 12 year old said he'd upgraded almost straight away to the Creators Edition (even though I'd said 'wait a week or so'. But @ I was impatient Dad ...' ... hey ho ...). Went for it myself, downloaded the upgrade tool (forget it's name), clicked on it and all just 'happened'. No need to backup (though I should have done) and all works as before (before on W10 that is).

    Don't see what all the fuss is about. Was on Win XP Pro for years, finally got a PC that would run W10 and just 'tweaked' the way I work. I have nothing on my desktop and use the Windows key to access the full screen start menu which I've edited to contain my most used apps/folders/etc and all is sweetness and light ..... :)
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  14. cooldood

    cooldood Newbie

    WIN10 64 bit and never going back

    We are rolling out win10 at work as we speak and has gone remarkably well
    Soon ditching our VPN for direct access and next pushing out intune
  15. mikedt

    mikedt 你好

    I use a MacBook for all my work. And this is why....
    windows virus.jpg
    A USB stick that's been in a school classroom PC. Two hidden Windows EXEs, 1.2MB each, which is some worm or virus that's on some of the school Windows 7 PCs. And I know a few other foreign teachers also use Macs or Linux for same reasons.

    I do use a Windows 10 tablet for games sometimes, but don't let it anywhere near my work stuff.
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  16. palmtree5

    palmtree5 Sunny Vacation Supporter!

    That reminds me of the time a large number of computers in my high school had a virus that was being spread around by usb drives. They wound up making us have to scan drives on a laptop in the library that was running Microsoft Security Essentials to make sure they were clean before plugging them into other computers in the building. I mostly use Ubuntu these days, though I do have a Windows VM laying around if I need it
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  17. mikedt

    mikedt 你好

    This is what I often see, DO NOT "UPDATE" Windows!! Because if it was updated, the Windows Genuine Advantage activation kicks in.
    do not update windows.jpeg

    And this on a school classroom whiteboard and podium Win 7 PC. Which states in Chinese "EVALUATION COPY", "THIS COPY OF WINDOWS IS NOT GENUINE", along with black background, because it's not activated and is pirated.
    windows activation.jpeg

    At the end of teaching session I just delete any EXEs I find on USB sticks with the MacBook.
    #1392 mikedt, Apr 17, 2017
    Last edited: Apr 17, 2017
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  18. bayk

    bayk Member

    Does anybody know id Widows 10 drivers compatible with Windows 7 drivers?
    During update, what drivers do you need?
  19. lunatic59

    lunatic59 Moderati ergo sum

    Not universally, but unless it's really an oddball machine or very old, I'd guess that windows 10 drivers would be available and stable.
  20. Father Guido

    Father Guido Android Enthusiast

    While not all Win7 drivers will work in 10, many will. Most important is the drivers for your NIC and/or Wifi adapter. I haven't run into any Ethernet driver (yet) unsupported OOB. Once online you can search for updates, or drivers for any unknown device(s) (as shown with a "!" in device manager).

    If I running Win7 and wish to wipe & clean install 10, "Double Driver" will save any non-M$ drivers to the media of choice in a structured format so you can manually search the entire folder recursively (the *inf method from device manager) after installation. I just did this with a 6 year old Toshiba laptop the other night. Once I got the device working (sound in this case), it's identified correctly. You can then search for an updated driver online from there.

    Surprisingly Win10 does a pretty good job of finding device drivers once online, but it's not perfect. Best bet is go to the mfg website for your rig/device and see if they provide one.

    EDIT: If doing an "in place" upgrade, Win10 normally has no problems identifying hardware and locating the correct drivers. My bad for not noticing this in your original question.
    #1395 Father Guido, Apr 18, 2017
    Last edited: Apr 18, 2017
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  21. mrex

    mrex Android Enthusiast

    Don't know why my Zenbook doesn't update it. There might be a bug because I think the version that it is trying to download and install it is insider preview so the updater (upgrader) and Media creation tool won't probably work. Not the first time when MS is messing around. They probably released newer version and didn't remember to update their tool, so it can't be installed on that way... Don't know.

    I guess it would work if I made an ISO-file, but I think I'm going to wait when they release it here officially via Windows update.

    Reason I switched to MacBook Pro (main laptop) at home. However, I'm still running AV-program on my mbp.

    Anyway - I have had only once a virus on my computer 15-20 years ago. I didn't use the computer on that time but I recognized it. It was Sir something.. I still remember it and the procedure to get rid of it.
    #1396 mrex, Apr 19, 2017
    Last edited: Apr 20, 2017
  22. Davdi

    Davdi Android Expert

    I'm mostly in Linux (PCLOS/MINT 18) and Win10 Pro (creators) for Visual Studio 2017 for dev work.
    I like that I can target Windows devices, Android and Apple from the one IDE and source files.

    Wiin10Pro/VS2017 is on a separate box (HP EliteDesk SFF - Core i5 32GB DDR3) from my multiboot linux/Win10 insiders box (Core i7/16GB - until I get an RMA for the other 16GB DDDR4 from Corsair).
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  23. DialOut

    DialOut Newbie

    I've had a few friends upgrade to 10, and they say it's a step or two backwards. :(

    Mobile users seem to have better things to say than desktop users.
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  24. bcrichster

    bcrichster ROMinator

    They forgot to mention the cliff a half step behind them before they took the 2 steps 😂😂 But really tho, I've never met a bigger pain of an OS that makes Android Development such a hassle. In fact, it literally caused me to switch to Linux Mint. 🙊🙉🙈

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