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Windows 10, Yay or Nay?

Discussion in 'Computers' started by Guggy, Jul 29, 2015.

  1. Dngrsone

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    Mobile? As in laptop users? There is no difference besides touch, if the laptop has it.

    As an Enterprise Admin/Professional/etc I couldn't not be happier with the improvements Win 10 made. There are one or two small things that I think function better on Win 7, but you couldn't pay me to go back to 7 now...
     
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    Like the Surface, yeah. I know a couple of guy who use the Surface and they have nothing bad to say about it.
     
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    From what I've seen most enterprise, professional, academic is Windows XP Professional, along with some 7 and Vista users.
     
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    Not here ... I won't even let users THINK about XP while logged in. We are almost exclusively Windows 7 professional with some 10 machines as the older ones go belly up. Although there is a Windows 8.1 box sitting around somewhere.
     
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    Same exact version of Win 10, though with laptops the experience is worlds better if it is touch enabled.
    XP went out of support 3 years ago now, and Win 7 only has 2.5 years left. No business should be using XP at all, though it happens here and there. Win 7 was/is awesome, but its time to move on. Win 10 ent is making it into businesses, but you won't see large conversions untill support for 7 ends in 1/20.
    I had the chills just reading that... xp.......
     
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    This is sad.. Most ppl don't even WANT to deal with Win10 after they made it anti-developement.. Then when everyone said F-U to MS and went to Linux, they backtracked and made a fake Linux. Lmfao. 😂
    Edit: I'd say I was just being humorous but I was taught that lying was disrespectful. 😂 🙈🙉🙊 😂
     
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    On a positive note, they did do the right thing by going back to a Win7 style desktop Home screen..
     
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    Windows 10..Yay! for its increased security over previous versions. :thumbsupdroid:


    IMG_20171102_172343.jpg

    Windows Movie Maker does NOT come from Riyue Tongxing Information Technology (Beijing) Co., Ltd. and I'm sure Windows XP, Vista, 7, etc. would have happily let be installed, and it was downloaded from a Microsoft Bing URL. It's actually obnoxious advertising spyware, that's rather difficult to remove once installed on a PC.

    That is one of the perils of using Windows in China, and normally I use a Mac.
     
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    My very old (brontosaur by PC standards, it's a core 2 duo) Windows 7 Enterprise (x64) machine has been acting up lately, so I'm getting ready to build a Win 10 Enterprise (x64, build 1709) box to replace it. The OS will go on a smaller SSD, with everything else on conventional 3.5" HDs. Since some of the apps we have won't run on Win 10 I'll have to RDP to a Win 7 workstation periodically.

    For that reason I didn't really want to go to Win10, but on the other hand there are a couple of limitations in Win7, so if I have to take all that time, I don't want to build it on Win7 and still have those limitations. Not to mention that Win10 is faster and moderately more secure.

    Really, I just don't have the time to deal with it either way, but whatever is failing in the old box is pressing the issue. Bleh.

    Wish me luck...
     
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    I don't believe in luck, so I'll wish you a glitch-free installation instead. ;)
     
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    The base install I'm really not worried about (it's happening as we, er, speak). It's the copious programs to load and configure and all of the fine-tuning and customizing I dread. Ugh. If we weren't so short-handed at work I wouldn't mind, but I've been putting it off simply because of that. However, way my old pc is periodically locking up has me concerned that if I don't have a replacement soon, I'll be going from scratch with no reference...and I dread that more, I suppose.

    Either way, thanks for the well-wishes. :D :D
     
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    WHOOSH!. The base install and configuration is complete. PC hasn't been updated (it's the build from 9/29/17) or added to the network, but power on to login screen is a cool 17 seconds. Ya gotta love SSDs. :D
     
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    This actually sounds much like our work, although nobody outside of IT is allowed to have a Win10 machine on the domain. But we do have one rogue 8.1 box out there (it was two, but one of those was upgraded to 10).
     
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    I hear you. I've got a workstation here that's been fighting me for the last few months. We have a managed update policy which works well for the Win7 boxes, but for some reason, this particular workstation hangs on logout when there is a pending Win10 update. LabTech (the monitoring agent we use) insists that it is completely compatible with Windows 10 and truthfully none of the other Win 10 machines have that problem, so I'm planning on rebuilding this one, but I don't have the time so I just have to tun off the domain policy, update manually. I'd keep it off permanently but the agent re-enables itself after 24-hours or if the machine is rebooted. :mad:

    I'd love to find the specific problem and give them a hearty "I told you so" but i don't have the time for that type of sleuthing either. A rebuild is quicker.
     
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    Well, since lots of our users take this week off, it was quiet enough I was able to finish most of the setup. I still have a couple of programs to install and then there will be the settling in period of customizing and personalizing (some of that I already did just to be sure the thing would be functional) but I'm happy it's this close. Not really too many hiccups either, which was a bit of a surprise. The SMBv2&3 stuff was a puzzler for a little while (nothing most non-enterprise users will run into).

    One of the other benefits of doing this is not reinstalling programs I no longer use (mostly utilities) for one reason or another, and one of those reasons is some of that functionality is native in Win 10 (like mounting ISO files).

    At this point, even with updates and programs installed, the time from power on to logon is still 17 seconds. I'm really impressed.

    The final benefit? Absent something really crazy happening at work, this will be the last desktop I have to build for myself before I retire, even if I don't get more fed up and opt for early retirement. ;)
     
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    Just to keep this thread moving along ... ;)

    I popped in a clean SSD over the holidays and reinstalled Win10 and a few apps when all heck broke loose and I had to swap the original drive back into the machine and put it back into service. I had every intention of getting back to the rebuild after the New Year, but I've just been too friggin' busy. Then, around the end of January, I noticed that the problem had cleared up on it's own.

    I'm thinking a specific bug was addressed in an update, but what it was, i have no idea.
     
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    So I prolly shouldn't mention that I am viewing this forum on a marginally working Vista machine, huh? I lost my copies of XP that I keep only because a few old progs (games) won't run on anything past it. I had 4 XP machines just for gaming with friends over beer. My Win7 Premium machine (which I bought only a month or 2 after the damned Vista machine and very nearly identical otherwise) had hard drive failure. I have 3 Win7 laptops mostly for smaller tasks since I hate their keyboards. I now have a new drive for the Win7 box but I just now realized the install disk is an OEM so I doubt I am going to be able to make it work. I know I should head to Win 10 but I resist change vehemently.
     
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    XP and Vista are done. I wouldn't even waste a spork to stick in them. ;)

    Windows 7 is done with updates and will only receive security patches until 2020

    Windows 8 ... well, we don't talk about that. :eek:

    Windows 10 has grown on me, but it's taken three years to stabilize where I'm comfortable deploying it in our enterprise.
     
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    Well, the Creator's update caught up with me... only took an hour and a half to install and mess everything up.

    Good thing I only boot it up once every other week.
     
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    1709? yeah the first round of updates was a pisser, but I think the last patch has it all worked out.
     
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    It still sucks. Have to use it at work and it has more stupid F**#** updates than Endpoint. It's always down and updating.

    At home, my Win10 system keeps throwing updates and undoing everything disable to make it run at a tolerable level. What was Microsoft thinking? Really? Windows Defender makes my system run so slow... A win xp loaded with viruses is faster!
     
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    Just after Christmas my Onda Obook Windows 10 tablet took an update, FIVE HOURS IT TOOK, and the device was unusable during that time, completely ridiculous! I don't use it much anyway now.
    My MacBook Air only takes 30 minutes at most to apply any macOS updates.
     
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