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Would you buy your Nexus again or get the Incredible?

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  1. mazzabl

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    you sir, are an idiot. every post ive ever seen on this forum from you is bashing the nexus one..let me ask, have you ever even seen a nexus one in person, let alone even owned one? or do you just make your judgment on a product based on a small number of issues you read on the internet :rolleyes: you do realize that people come to forums to get help solving issues not to boast about how awesome their new product is, because those people (the majority) are out there enjoying the product they purchased. let me guess, you believe mysterious random cracking screens are an issue that plagues the nexus one? give me a link to atleast 5 people out of the thousands or more that have bought nexus ones that have experienced this issue, i assure you that you cant, because you read one article about a lemon and assume its a common flaw with the device. go to the apple forums and drink the koolaide over there pal.
     

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    take a breath, and move on, but nicely said
     
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    One of my favorite features of the N1 is the active noise suppression using the 2nd microphone and special chip. Really works well. Last I heard, the Incredible will not have that feature.

    Sense is not a big deal to me. The Beautiful Widgets app dresses up the phone nicely, and personally I don't feel the need for Sense. I also like the fact that the unadulterated Android on the Nexus will probably be top priority for updates.

    All in all, though, I think the differences between these phones are small. Honestly, I'd probably base it more on carrier preference than the phone itself.

    Good luck.
     
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    A biggie also for the Incredible to support for Exchange Active Sync. While I love the N1 and use Touchdown, having native support for A/S is huge. We'll see what AT&T comes out with, Desire??? N1 is awesome though, my friends with iPhones are blown away by the N1's screen.
     
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    No, I haven't owned one because the device isn't out on the VZN network yet... I would have thought you would understand that if you've been reading all my posts.

    And it's not a "small number of issues." If you bothered to read my other posts (like you said you have), you'd see it's many issues that have been plaguing the phone. If you don't believe me then I implore you to check the Phandroid article (if you don't like Phandroid, why are you even here?) and check the official Google Android forums; in fact, you can also check the Android development forums as well and you will see it is the problem of the Nexus One--don't defend what you do not understand. And here's what was posted by Phandroid:
    The ones with *s are the problems I do not want to deal with in a phone. It's almost missing "dust under screen."


    I'm not sure why you're too lazy to find the info for yourself, but here: My screen, without any drop, cracked and as the phone laid untouched for hours, the crack grew. Now the screen is pink - Android Help
    Tiny crack in screen? - Android Help
    Screen Cracked while charging - Android Help
    My screen cracked with a small drop - beware its very fragile screen. - Android Help
    Screen SHATTERED AGAIN!! Both phones I've purchased have lasted less than one week. - Android Help
    Nexus One mystery: How did our screen crack? | Crave - CNET
    http://androidforums.com/nexus-one/35682-nexus-one-cracked-screen.html


    And if you were a real detective, reading my posts and such; you should read my older posts (I think February or earlier) and you'll see that I was excited for the Nexus One until all these issues came to light. Now if you'd keep your personal attacks to yourself, good day.

     
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    Uh, you do realize that EVERY electronic device on the market has a list of "issues". Good luck in finding a Perfect phone. I have a friend who is on her third iPhone for cracked screens. And virtually every device with a screen (including the new iPad) has reports of dust under the screen.

    It's important to put things in perspective. It helps if you actually live with the device for awhile. I don't constantly troll the forums looking for the latest "issue" to assign to my phone. I just enjoy my phone; the best damn phone on the market today, if you ask me. And I HAVE lived with it.
     
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    1st off, your clearly not understanding my main point. i dont care how many links you pull up (which by the way dropping your phone and cracking the screen is not a faulty of the device), the fact remains that it is still a small fraction of nexus one owners who experience any issues. every phone ever produced has issues, people get lemons, and software problems sometimes occur, it happens, go to any phone forum and tell me there arent issues reported. the first line in your original post said "im getting the incredible", really, is that so? your willing to commit to buying a phone that hasnt even been released yet? btw, i dont read all your posts, everytime your name happens to come up in a thread that im reading, its always some nonsense bashing the nexus one for hardware failures, or some bogus issue. with all the critic reading you do, it makes me wonder how you ever ponied up the confidence to even buy a computer, or any consumer product for that matter. what your doing is like me going to a ford mustang forum and convincing people not to buy a mustang because i read on the internet that they break down and are unreliable. stop turning people off from a device you've never owned
     
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    Fortunately V/N1 took forever to release, giving me the option to get Incredible. I agree with QrafTee, the N1 has more issues than an a new phone should have, and with all the new options available in Inc. you'd be an idiot not to get it.
     
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    A couple points. Neither phone can currently install to external storage. That 8 gigs of internal storage is for all practical purposes the same thing as external storage on the N1 and you will not be able to install to it unless you root or wait for the froyo update which rumor says, may add it. Whether it comes at that time is uncertain in my mind until Google confirms it but they have confirmed it is in the cards eventually. This is a piracy prevention tactic BTW and the market will also be updated at that time with external storage support.

    The incredible will be better out of the box for business use, down the road they will probably both end up in the same place. An important point for some because the N1 is woefully inadequate in terms of outlook support.

    Were it me I would carefully consider how well I like sense. It will be a while before a fully functioning stable sense port is available on the N1.

    I have never owned a phone that didnt have some issues. There is always something and I fully expect the incredible to have some flaws. Not hacking on the incredible, just seems hard for a relatively small group of testers to find all the flaws that a million owners will expose. I wont mention any names or someone might think I am badmouthing nokia, (oops hehe) but my N1 has not a fraction of the flaws I have had with another brand.
     
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    Well, I personally like the idea of the Nexus One. I like the idea that google sells it independently and like the idea of getting upgrades sooner.

    What I don't like is the fact they are taking so long to release the phone on Verizon. After all is said and done I need a phone that I can trust is gonna work where I'm at. I've had no luck with any other provider other than Verizon. I live in the country and spend my time in the country and ATT, TMo, Sprint, etc just doesn't work well for me.

    So.......

    What are my options? Wait indefinitely for Verizon and Google to release the phone or get the Incredible? I'll have to go with the Incredible, I can't wait for them to make up their mind on whether they're gonna release it or not.
     
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    Right, there is no perfect phone, but neither should a phone be built with inferior parts on purpose for the sake of being "cost effective." It's a poor way to do business and either Google or HTC opted to do it that way. If you want to be a blind White Knight to the Nexus One, go ahead--but I don't need to defend the "honor" of an inanimate device. :D

    I'm glad you clicked the third or fourth link, but the first and second didn't include "drops," I believe. It just happened to spontaneously crack... that should not occur with any device. I wasn't happy to hear of exploding iPhone batteries either; no device should surprise you by dying out of the blue.

    Well if you don't read all my post then you don't know the facts. So don't put yourself out there and infer about me if you don't have all the facts. You should watch yourself more carefully because personal attacks are frowned upon in this community.

    And yes, I am willing to commit myself to an unreleased Droid Incredible, but it's not because I know it will be perfect--it probably won't be perfect--but because it will be released soon and I've had this Samsung Alias for far too long... it's time to upgrade and there are no other choices on Verizon (no, the Droid is not an option).

    Uh... I don't know if you like clicked this thread by accident or some sort. But *points at thread title* I don't know... how should I have answered it? "Oh I'm not buying the Nexus One, take a guess at which one I might be picking up instead?" What you're telling me to do is to pick one of two routes, but you won't let me go left route or else I'm "biased." Wow, really?
     
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    im not telling you what to buy, its your hard earned money, use it how you want. im just saying you have no right to belittle a product you''ve never even owned. you have no personal experience with it, so dont go into peoples threads with your internet copy and paste nonsense about a few bad experiences. on top of that, you contradict yourself by committing to an unreleased product. i hope you enjoy the incredible, it sounds like a great device, but the rare chance that you come back posting saying "my droid incredible screen cracked when it was just charging" expect a chuckle from this guy. btw the only personal attack i made was calling you an idiot because im sick of all your posts bashing the n1, if you actually had purchased the phone and had a bad experience, by all means share it, but you never have so leave it alone. sorry if i hurt your feelings, its the internet, dont take things too personal.
     
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    I don't contradict myself, because I would have--and vehemently intended to--go with the Nexus One on VZN... before I knew of all the problems and before it turned out to release in TBA (which is as good as Spring 2010 in my book *sigh*).

    Believe it or not, you do not need to have the device to have an opinion on it. It comes down to what has been recorded and reported... and it's just not something you can go, "Oh well, you've never had it so you don't know it actually has a perfect touch screen sensor that doesn't get confused when you cross the Y-axis," or "You don't own it so I don't know why you're informing people about the fact that HTC support said it doesn't in your pants pockets." IT"S A BIG DEAL so as long as you're even thinking about getting it because guess what? There is an off chance that someone on this forum doesn't know of the flaws of the device. And the thread title asks, which one will I get? And then I can't put reasoning behind my decision?

    Is it no longer a fact that money will be tied up with the Nexus One if there are no refurbs in stock and Google will offer to send me one and then credit me back the money later? Is it no longer a fact that because the Nexus One is sold only by Google that it cannot be swapped on the fly at your carrier's store?

    And yes, I will be VERY upset if the Droid Incredible has the same issues as the Nexus One. I'll bring on the fury to VZN if the screen spontaneously explodes or in any way self-destructs, count on it--although they'd just swap a new device for me which is something I've posted time and again.
     
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    yes, your entitled to your own opinion, but its just that, YOUR personal opinion. every post ive ever read from you is expressing strong distate towards the nexus one. its as if you try to turn people away from purchasing the device the way you only express the negative issues that a consumer MIGHT experience. theres no doubt, the nexus one is one of the best android devices out at the moment if not the best, sure it has flaws like all devices but thats all you do is constantly bring up its flaws. therefore anyone you give purchasing advice to will likely share that same distate, rather than them buying the phone and trying it out for themselves, there is a 14 day window to return the device you know. you have a point about not being able to swap the phone conveniently in store in the case something goes wrong, however its not like your stuck with a broken device, you simply send it back to htc for a new one. i previously had an iphone 3gs that i had numerous issues with, however i wouldnt go into an iphone forum and tell people not to buy it because it has X,Y,Z issues. theres alot of great features that i do miss with the iphone, but overall im pleased with my nexus one, and only see it becoming more of a joy to own with future updates (which the n1 will surely be the first to get). incredible looks good on paper but we'll see how it does when its released, but i assure you there will certainly be people with issues, like all devices, it happens.
     
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    A solid state has a lot more technology than internal flash memory in a cell phone would.

    I got a 1tb Hitashi off newegg for $70 shipped before christmas and it is 7200. I'm sure they have as good as or better deals now. Also, 7200 is the suck compared to a ssd. SSD + win7 FTW :D

    My main point is that everyone keeps asking for more features on a phone when they are almost pointless with the little memory you can have. A music player with 16gb max? A 720p video player with hdmi out with just 16gb? If ipods have so much memory for their price these days we should be able to get a phone with more than 512mb memory (or 8gb).
     
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    Just to answer Qraftee:

    1) 3G connectivity issue*

    This is real but it's not 3G. It's because of your hand masking the antenna.

    2) Touch Screen unresponsiveness/sensing incorrect input*

    Never happened on mine.

    3) unresponsive trackball

    Never happened on mine

    4) WIFI connectivity issue*

    Not a problem.

    5) Lock button response issue

    Never heard of.

    6) Proximity sensor sensitivity issue

    Where are you getting these from. Mine works perfectly.

    7) Ambient light sensor issue

    Again...

    8)bluetooth issues: fails to operate; inadequate volume; intermittent failure to accept commands

    No.

    9) speaker: horrible sound quality

    OK, it's not great. But at least kids don't walk down the street playing music out of the loudspeaker.

    10) ringer: insufficient volume

    Not the loudest but OK.

    11) earpiece: insufficient volume

    No, this along with call quality is excellent.

    12) headset connector: headphones cord activates pause or other functions

    Never used.

    13) manufacturer says phone cannot go in pocket*

    OK, this is a bit silly. They should have stated that it should not be bent excessively.

    14) Phone mutes when calling people and can only be unmuted by turning mute on then off!

    Never seen this.

    15) missed call notification trackball does not flash

    Mine works.



    So basically Qraftee, all you have done is scoured the net for every fault that anyone has ever had on the N1. You then claim that all of these "faults" are common.

    I don't know why you are on this forum? You don't like the N1, clearly. So find a phone you do like, go on the forum for that one and find out it also has people who have problems with their device.

    Bye bye.
     
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    There's no forum rule against posting personal opinions. Every sub-forum on the site is full of them, and while you're free to disagree please remember to do so politely. ;)
     
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    me personally returned the Droid Eris just so i can get a Nexus One when it comes to sprint, i was leaving sprint for Verizon at first but when Sprint came out with that 69.99 unlimted web,data and any mobile number, i had to stay with Sprint even though i want to go with Verizon, Verizon plans just suck compared to the competition, but the Incredible makes me want to go back with Verizon anyway, im so confused at the moment
     
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    1) This is real but it's not 3G. It's because of your hand masking the antenna.

    Wow, what a BRILLIANT design. We should include an AM/FM tuner where it won't work properly either.

    2) Never happened on mine.

    I bet it does, but you can't tell the difference.

    3) Never happened on mine

    Not one of my main issues to begin with.

    4) Not a problem.

    I haven't heard much about this until the Phandroid report, but it would be a big deal if it was widespread.

    5) Never heard of.

    I haven't heard much about this until the Phandroid report, but it would be a big deal if it was widespread.

    6) Where are you getting these from. Mine works perfectly.

    I have heard about this a bit before the Phandroid report, but it would be a big deal if it was widespread. Where am I getting it from? I posted the source. *facepalm*

    7) Again...

    I haven't heard much about this until the Phandroid report, but it would be a big deal if it was widespread.

    8) No.

    I haven't heard much about this until the Phandroid report, but it would be a big deal if it was widespread.

    9) OK, it's not great. But at least kids don't walk down the street playing music out of the loudspeaker.

    How many "kids" do you think own this phone? Anyway, I've only known of one phone that had excellent speakerphone (Droid), so I didn't expect much here--not even from the Droid Incredible.

    10) Not the loudest but OK.

    I haven't heard much about this until the Phandroid report, but it would be a big deal if it was widespread.

    11) No, this along with call quality is excellent.

    I haven't heard much about this until the Phandroid report, but it would be a big deal if it was widespread.

    12) Never used.

    I have heard of this prior to the Phandroid report, but it seems to affect all phones for some reason. The aux port seems to get loose over time--or maybe the aux input rubber rings wear down.

    13) OK, this is a bit silly. They should have stated that it should not be bent excessively.

    Epic fail on HTC's part. Whoever handled that call should be fired.

    14) Never seen this.

    I haven't heard much about this until the Phandroid report, but it would be fairly annoying if it was widespread.

    15) Mine works.

    I haven't heard much about this until the Phandroid report.

    And you're wrong again. I don't take all "faults" as bad. Some are isolated incidents, but some are serious issues (the ones I've mentioned over and over again): Dust under screen, Touchscreen sensor, and Cracking screen. I don't count 3G because I still fairly believe that is T-Mobile's fault.

    Am I supposed to sit in the back of the bus too? Am I also bound to the land? Am I also restricted to the non-Whites restrooms? No? I didn't think so.
     
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    Ive been playing with the incredible for a couple days now and so far I do like it; not really planning to give up my nexus one since I will never go to VZ.

    The screen interaction feels a lot "smoother" when navigating menus and icons, the battery has held up pretty good and I really do like the track pad; it's very functional.

    I think all of these devices are steps in the right direction; but noone has managed to combine them all into a single killer package.

    Also, the speed is pretty good it feels extremely snappy and with the network it screams; I would probably guess it would outperform my Nexus one even with similar specs (on web tests).
     
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    Where are you playing with the Droid Incredible?
     
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    I don't think we should get riled up that quickly. Wait until it's released. I already feel like crud in getting the Eris when the Droid was out. Now this. Before this, it was the N1 in between the Droid guilt and now, the Incredible guilt. Should have waited, but it was my first smartphone.

    Now, I'd be lucky to get $200 for the Eris, which means another $300 for the Incredible. As an unemployed student (I feel crap about that to begin with) another $300 is gonna be hard to come by and probably isn't worth it at this point. The EVO 4G comes out as well, albeit on Sprint, and that will have the 720P output and all that other jazz.

    There was a bitchfight in the Eris section about this, but is the Incredible coming out with fully clocked at 1Ghz or will it be underclocked to 768 or whatever Snapdragons are underclocked at?

    What's the N1 at?
     
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    The Droid Incredible and the Nexus One supposedly runs at the stock 1Ghz. This works against the Droid Incredible though considering Sense UI supposedly uses more power and it comes with a slightly lower capacity battery compared to the Nexus One.
     
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