1. Download our Official Android App: Forums for Android!

General YES, you need a task killer app for the Eris. PERIOD.

Discussion in 'Android Devices' started by newsradio, Feb 4, 2010.

  1. newsradio

    Thread Starter
    Rank:
    None
    Points:
    16
    Posts:
    22
    Joined:
    Feb 4, 2010

    Feb 4, 2010
    22
    2
    16
    Many people here seem to be confused and think that you dont need a task killer app for the Eris...

    YES you do.

    People will argue that Android is Linux based and that Linux reallocates memory as needed. This maybe true but it is this EXACT process that slows down the Eris and causes even more lag than you already have from the outdated old CPU.

    This is proven because anyone can confirm that once the Eris reaches 30mb of memory the entire phone starts to LAG even more than normal and under multitasking the phone becomes ridiculously slow at times all due to this memory reallocation process. This has been 100% confirmed.

    This is the MAIN reason why you need task killer apps, to keep your Eris memory free so that apps load fast instead of having the Eris reallocate memory and THEN load the app into memory. Not only that but when the apps you ALREADY have loaded into memory need MORE memory this reallocation cripples performance and again causes more LAG.

    Some people simply cant understand this....this has been 100% proven.

    Phones like the Nexus One are so fast that this memory reallocation process does not noticeably impact its performance.
     

    Advertisement

    erisman1978 and Ra21V12eN like this.
  2. korben dallas

    korben dallas Well-Known Member
    Rank:
    None
    Points:
    36
    Posts:
    124
    Joined:
    Dec 24, 2009

    Dec 24, 2009
    124
    5
    36
    I use advance task manager its great.
     
  3. cmack

    cmack Member
    Rank:
    None
    Points:
    16
    Posts:
    68
    Joined:
    Dec 16, 2009

    Dec 16, 2009
    68
    5
    16
    LI
    You continue to say that it has been proven. Show me the facts. Where has it been proven? Let's see links from a reliable source, instead of just pontificating on the topic.
     
    benso87 likes this.
  4. mhrebin

    mhrebin Well-Known Member
    Rank:
    None
    Points:
    36
    Posts:
    110
    Joined:
    Dec 16, 2009

    Dec 16, 2009
    110
    4
    36
    things like the browser i like to close manually. that is really all i use the killer for. other than that, i leave everything as is and it seems my phone has been running pretty good and maybe some more battery life as well.
     
  5. Pitamakan

    Pitamakan Android Enthusiast
    Rank:
    None
    Points:
    78
    Posts:
    586
    Joined:
    Jan 15, 2010

    Jan 15, 2010
    586
    80
    78
    Bozeman, Montana
    All I can say about this thread is ... lol. :)
     
  6. Caddyman

    Caddyman Android Expert
    Rank:
    None
    Points:
    233
    Posts:
    3,216
    Joined:
    Nov 10, 2009

    Nov 10, 2009
    3,216
    638
    233
    Mechanical Piping Designer
    Delaware
    hello onion/napster....welcome back to the site
     
  7. Bswartz95

    Bswartz95 Android Expert
    Rank:
    None
    Points:
    118
    Posts:
    1,101
    Joined:
    Dec 11, 2009

    Pfft.

    Mine runs perfectly fine without one.
     
  8. ericDylan

    ericDylan Android Enthusiast
    Rank:
    None
    Points:
    68
    Posts:
    618
    Joined:
    Dec 14, 2009

    Dec 14, 2009
    618
    34
    68
    Full-time Student
    Atlanta, GA
    haha i can't wait until ofthedamned reads this :D:D your in for it lol
     
  9. mhrebin

    mhrebin Well-Known Member
    Rank:
    None
    Points:
    36
    Posts:
    110
    Joined:
    Dec 16, 2009

    Dec 16, 2009
    110
    4
    36
    (sits back with popcorn and a cold drink) lol
     
  10. graywolferis1

    graywolferis1 Member
    Rank:
    None
    Points:
    15
    Posts:
    73
    Joined:
    Jan 10, 2010

    Jan 10, 2010
    73
    0
    15
    lol!
     
  11. jakedagreat

    jakedagreat Newbie
    Rank:
    None
    Points:
    35
    Posts:
    20
    Joined:
    Dec 19, 2009

    Dec 19, 2009
    20
    0
    35
    PERIOD, this is wrong.

    As in any operating system, memory is utilized according to needs of the system. Android is no different. My phone is as fast as it was on day one and I have never used a task killer. Maybe your phone is defective.

    Stop spreading misinformation. kthanks.
     
  12. hattrick

    hattrick Well-Known Member
    Rank:
    None
    Points:
    43
    Posts:
    230
    Joined:
    Jan 8, 2010

    Jan 8, 2010
    230
    29
    43
    If you prefer a task killer then use one. I notice that my phone lags a bit when memory drops below 30M. When this happens I hit my Taskiller widget and my phone is snappy again. I do this maybe 2-3 times a day as necessary. I have certain critical processes set to ignore so I'm mostly killing processes I don't need running in the background (browser, Facebook, random stuff I never use but seems to load on its own- footprints for instance).
    On the flip side my wife runs no task killer and she feels her phone performs great.
    I don't think there is a right or wrong answer when ot comes to the task killer issue. If it works for you then use it. If your phone runs well without one then that's great too.
     
  13. smacky

    Rank:
    None
    Points:
    163
    Posts:
    2,844
    Joined:
    Jan 11, 2010

    Jan 11, 2010
    2,844
    299
    163

    A mod can check his IP address and verify this. The guy has good grammar and punctuation,though. You sure about this one?
     
  14. graywolferis1

    graywolferis1 Member
    Rank:
    None
    Points:
    15
    Posts:
    73
    Joined:
    Jan 10, 2010

    Jan 10, 2010
    73
    0
    15
    OSMonitor shows how much memory a particular process is taking up, cpu usage, and can kill processes.
     
  15. Roze

    Roze Hiding behind a mystery
    Rank:
    None
    Points:
    333
    Posts:
    9,814
    Joined:
    Jan 20, 2010

    Jan 20, 2010
    9,814
    2,183
    333
    Where the Sakura grows
    rofl...I was thinking the exact same thing :D I thought she had responded already *goes and wait for the show* lol
     
  16. arock

    arock Well-Known Member
    Rank:
    None
    Points:
    36
    Posts:
    116
    Joined:
    Jan 4, 2010

    Jan 4, 2010
    116
    1
    36
    MD
    I am just wondering why this needed its own thread instead of being added to one of the 30 other existing threads on this topic?
     
  17. vapordub

    vapordub Member
    Rank:
    None
    Points:
    15
    Posts:
    74
    Joined:
    Dec 28, 2009

    Dec 28, 2009
    74
    0
    15
    All I know is my battery lasts twice as long since I took it off and started to back out of my programs.
     
  18. AdrianC14

    AdrianC14 Android Expert
    Rank:
    None
    Points:
    78
    Posts:
    776
    Joined:
    Dec 29, 2009

    Dec 29, 2009
    776
    62
    78
    California
    I just uninstalled Advanced Task Killer. Let's see how my battery life is like tomorrow night.
     
  19. JrzDroid

    JrzDroid Android Expert
    Rank:
    None
    Points:
    163
    Posts:
    1,682
    Joined:
    Nov 30, 2009

    Nov 30, 2009
    1,682
    308
    163
    T-Mobile
    NJ
    where is OftheDamned!!!!!
    i can't WAIT for her take on this thread.
    forget popcorn and a drink, i just ordered a pizza and 2 liter of Pepsi
     
  20. hrbib21

    hrbib21 Android Expert
    Rank:
    None
    Points:
    78
    Posts:
    878
    Joined:
    Nov 24, 2009

    Nov 24, 2009
    878
    34
    78
    Pro Desk Driver
    Myrtle Beach SC
    I agree that a task killer is useful but saying it's a proven fact is not true. That has been my point in earlier threads: there is no proof either way other than the typical anecdotal "My battery lasts twice as long" (which I don't believe at all) or "My phone is faster". Until we have actual proven facts nobody really knows.

    Besides, I have better things to do than worry about whether using a task killer is right or wrong. I use it, it works for me, end of story.
     
  21. EddieVersatile

    EddieVersatile Well-Known Member
    Rank:
    None
    Points:
    16
    Posts:
    82
    Joined:
    Feb 2, 2010

    Well Put!
    and if someone asks me how to speed up their phone, I will recommend what works for me :) but tell them people disagree at the same time...
     
  22. weems

    weems Member
    Rank:
    None
    Points:
    15
    Posts:
    42
    Joined:
    Jan 27, 2010

    Jan 27, 2010
    42
    0
    15
    I used a task killer for 2-3 days, and then switched back, no noticeable improvements, and might have even made my battery worse, but I just figured it was due to usage.
     
  23. RC Addict

    RC Addict Android Enthusiast
    Rank:
    None
    Points:
    56
    Posts:
    257
    Joined:
    Nov 12, 2009

    Nov 12, 2009
    257
    2
    56
    Truck Driving Madman
    El Paso, TX
    Pretzels--check. Beer--check. Cigar--check. Waiting for the show...
     
  24. carlz28

    carlz28 Well-Known Member
    Rank:
    None
    Points:
    38
    Posts:
    119
    Joined:
    Dec 9, 2009

    Dec 9, 2009
    119
    24
    38
    Chemical Eng. Medical Device Manuf.
    Catasauqua, PA
    I have a DROID and I'm still up in the air about using one. I have TasKiller installed. (personal preference over ATK)...anyway...I have mine set to kill the TasKiller app as well when I kill the other things running. I also ignore some stuff from being killed so it won't affect much. For me personally, I do see longer battery life when using it. But honestly, not a HUGE difference. Maybe...an extra hour of standby time. I haven't really done any scientific trials to see what is better..with or without using one. It's kind of hard to duplicate the exact same usage on a day to day basis. Therefore, I can't really say it is totally beneficial. I still get my gmail sent on-time. I have background data set to sync automatically, i.e. FB..etc.
    I understand that Linux allocates memory different than Windows...kills processes not being used to free up CPU and memory for something that may need it more at the specific time a new app is trying to run....blah blah blah.
    I agree with hattrick that if you feel you need to use a task killer, then use it. If your phone works fine for your set-up and you don't think you need to use a task killer, then don't worry about it.
    I don't do an extreme amount of multi-tasking at any given time so I probably don't need to use one at all. My memory never gets below..~70mb available free memory (or at least that's what the task killer tells me is available) so my performance never really suffers. The only time I have lag issues is if a specific app isn't working properly (bad coding by the dev). And to fix that I either update the app or get rid of it and try something different or simply make do without it.
    Some of you ask to see proof that you truly NEED a task killer. I ask to see proof that you really DON'T NEED to use one. Just because Linux is supposed to free/kill and allocate memory differently, doesn't necessarily mean it does it, especially on mobile devices. While it may be true that better hardware reduces the need for such apps, lower spec'd hardware may need it..regardless of how well Linux is supposed to do it's job. There are probably a couple hundred billion possible combinations of apps/device settings that can be configured and throw in hardware as a factor and it's just too damned impossible to figure out what works and what won't.
    Like I said earlier, if you wanna use one...then do so.
    But it's probably not benefitting anyone to make a claim that you absolutely MUST HAVE one.

    My .02
     
  25. smacky

    Rank:
    None
    Points:
    163
    Posts:
    2,844
    Joined:
    Jan 11, 2010

    Jan 11, 2010
    2,844
    299
    163
    I haven't smoked in two months. You said cigar and I've decided to buy a pack of Grizzly Wintergreen tomorrow.
     

Share This Page

Loading...