Discussion in 'Android Devices' started by anubis2048, Jan 14, 2017.
Probably need more flighting. Fighting seems to get things done. Don't trust but verify. Always.
I was merely paraphrasing what had been stated by some other reputable member previously at one point. I've never utilized anything other than freewares (or "borrowedwares" wink wink), so I'm not familiar with UAT at all.
oh dude, sorry, i forgot you asked me to try root before anyone else, but i got flooded with PM's of people asking for help to root and i forgot about it!
Could of saved two-three days of this back and forth, lol.
Apparently, not. I believe that Messi's original post was about 5 days ago. I do agree with "Don't trust, but verify." but what threw everybody off track was baseless accusations and needless antagonizing.
LV is not to blame here, even you have to admit, that his answers were shady. It could be the way he talks, but answering a question with a question or avoiding will make people think you're doing something. This is all LV was waiting for was proof.
the mod did his job.
a user found a way to root the phone but it required buying unknown software.
Mod asked for proof.
Messi got upset for being questioned.
after a bit back and forth with the mod, Messi finally posted a video.
video didn't include any proof other than a root checker.
Mod asked for better proof.
Messi got even more upset because he was being doubted and then said, "No I'm done with it, don't have more time to waste with you, you can try on your own from now on."
I and everyone else in this forum was hesitant or else there would've been more people providing proof. the only people who did back up Messi were users who only joined 5 days ago.
i personally am still hesitant on shilling out $50 for a program that i've never seen before so I'll be waiting for more people confirming it.
if it does turn out to be true, i'll give messi some money.
the whole Messi vs Sapphire drama for the past couple of months was pretty nauseating.
We're working on getting a free method going now. Should be out soon. It's simple. Somehow uni got ahold of the MBN(Firehose) that we've been needing for months. So it's confirmed working. It's still a slightly jailed root as you can't do anything to system, however It's giant breakthrough. It's all minimal effort from here.
A notice: all rights for twrp and the how to root method belongs to me. I don't want @saphhire and his team to steal the credit..
Which is when sapphireEX joined.
Problem is, not all of us want to spend $50 bucks on software, let alone software purported to be ransomware, to root a <$100 handset.
Dude....if they crack and provide a free exploit to root, you both get credit. Take it where you can, when you can. Don't throw fuel on the fire.
I'm too old to get into pissing matches. If it happens, I got your back...and theirs.
No one is stealing your credit messi, your TWRP needs work and your how to are fine. I've already gave you credit. You found root. Good for you. Now we're going to release it for free, with credit for you finding it. Calm down. If you would have just posted a video like that 3 days ago all of this would have been avoided. The way you we're talking made people suspicious. Like I said, 3 days ago showing the entire phone and it performing root actions and this could have all been avoided.
Sure i have no problem with everyone taking credit for what they do.
We've been members of this servers for years, we got our accounts banned months ago over this.
Like I said, Good job for finding the root method. None of us we're aware that uni got their hands on the signed firehose. Because we had been trying for months to get it. If we would have know that it had that from the beginning we wouldn't have been so skeptical.
He could be right if i came and said i rooted my device but sorry i won't share any details with you on how i did it, i shared a step by step guide on how to root but instead of trying the posted method they started attacking me from nothing and giving me orders, there real problem was with the app price itself not me and that's not my problem they have the option to buy it or not, i have no relation.
the real problem was that you were being belligerent with the mod (who was doing his job)
people on these forums post random software on a daily basis that says it can root (iroot, srsroot, etc)
mods need to be able to question people who post software that requires money to help people from being scammed.
Please hurry and release this thing to us regular folk, before ZTE,Google or metro pushes a new update to "improve performance".
i dont think this method can be patched because it is done under EDL mode which bypasses bootloader protection and write the TWRP directly to emmc recovery partition
You are correct, it's unpatchable without an entire system update even though the z981 has already EOL. They aren't releasing any more updates.
the mod has no stake in the game.
the mod was doing his job. (to make sure that users aren't scamming people on their site)
Messi didn't create that software.
apparently the Mod never heard of the software either.
$50 program with no real reviews (other than the gsm forums)
the Mod asked for proof and Messi refused to comply.
you should never blindly accept anyones claims.
Messi might be known on XDA but the mod only asked for proof. that was all. only proof.
This thread is taking a break. I suggest you all do the same.
This thread has gotten out of control, repeatedly. That ends, now.
From here on out, we're adopting a zero-tolerance policy on personal attacks in this thread. This is a thread for discussing root on the Zmax Pro - not for airing your dirty laundry. Check your drama at the door before you enter this thread.
I don't care who started it, we will finish it.
Use this thread to discuss strategies, compare notes, share findings, etc. It's fine to disagree or want to test and verify a claim, but it MUST be done in polite, civil, adult manner.
If you see a post which violates this, don't respond to it. Use the Report button to bring it to our attention instead.
Attack the issues - NOT each other.
Please don't make me regret re-opening this thread.
Lovely isn't it?
So an overall update on what I've seen....
there is now a limited root available for this device, but it's still a Jailed root and have to use systemless instead of regular root apps...
I give Kudo's to all those involved they know who they are.
and will go on to say that the systemless sort of , kind of, root,that is available may be useful but As soon as we've got all of the pieces together, we plan to find a way to exploit it more fully than what our friends here have managed.
If i can't touch /system and can't kill Krapware because it's a /system app.
I count that sort of root as FAKE-Root.
after all, anyone with a little know how can run a Jailed chroot on any android device, and if you push busybox to /data/local/tmp/busybox and chmod +x busybox . you can then ./busybox and it works with out root.
infact if your storage is large enough, you can even run a different version of android in chroot on android devices, LoL, it's all Linux.
so there's where it's at as far as I can tell.
Do I have access to the files/tools to use the methods involved to achieve this?
NO ! And if I do, I wouldn't admit it at this point because of all the fighting here.
I will keep looking at this device.
it's on the list now.
Hey messi hows it goin?