Ahh I see. Yeah it really is a crap shoot with Handscent. MMS seems to go through to non-iphone at&t customers (the two that still exist), and everyone else using the big 4. It's a shame, because I love Handcent. Using the stock messenger on Android 2.1 seems to send MMS fine to everyone, so I guess I'll just use that. Thank you for the clarification.