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dan330

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My ex-wife's aunt's HP Pavillion HPE Desktop Computer.
It started with Windows Vista.. and she had upgraded it to Windows 7. I only have the Widnows 7 upgrade box and it was dated shipped on 2/22/2010.
it comes with wireless mouse and keyboard.. I do not see any dongles plugged in. so I am thinking it is either builtin Bluetooth or some HP wireless frequency; or she lost the dongle.

couple of months ago.. she tried to backup some stuff..
copying stuff.. she said it just locked up and would not boot.
she might have MOVED some very important windows system files by mistake.

now when it boots up..
I see the HP splash screen
then "raid storage technologies" screen
1 HD.. 1.8TB... partitioned into 2 Drives
drive 0... 931 GB good
drive 1... 931 GB Error occurred

then "Windows Boot Manger" error screen comes up.
asking for Boot up installatoion CD/DVD
or call the sys admin.

I am guessing the 2nd drive was where the system files were (why so large, who knows)
since it was so large and mostly empty!.. I am guessing she saved her created files and photos there.
I bet she just "selected everything" and "moved" it to a backup media.

I tried to hit the "F2" or "F12" to get into setup as it boots...
but being it is some type of wireless.. I am not sure it even can see the input devices yet.

I tried to put in the "windows 7 upgrade DVDs" .. there are 2 of them.
one 32bit .. other is 64 bit.
to see if they will boot up...
NOPE.. it says it is reading DVD to boot up.. but then goes back to: "windows boot manager" error screen

so.. where can I get a boot CD/DVD for this device online?
what can I do? I am sure it is out of warranty.
what are some suggestions??
 
I am guessing last resort...
get some wired keyboard and mouse.
get new full windows 8 installation dvd.

reparation the drive..
reformat the partitions
load in new full Windows 8.1
find all drivers and try to setup the desktop again.

I sure hope there is a better way...
 
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First, you need some basic info...

What it appears she has is a machine with 2 identical HDs in a Raid 1 array. It's a simple Raid setup where one HD perfectly 'mirrors' the other, constantly making an exact copy, including the OS. They appear as a single 1.8TB drive but in fact are physically separate drives, not a partioned drive.

In a Raid 1 array if one drive fails, the computer should continue to operate normally from the remaining drive. Replace the failed drive and the computer resyncs the drives, recreating the mirror. The computer can even be used normally while the drives resync. It's best if the drives used are identical, but drives of similar specs can be used if each has an identical size partition. They must be specially formatted for Raid use.

Now on to your problems...

Drive 1 has failed and for some reason the unit did not continue to operate off Drive 0 as it should. That's one problem.

You said the computer is not recognizing the wireless keyboard and mouse. But it should not need a boot disk for that. The BIOS should load basic drivers for those even before it begins to read a boot disk or HD. Remember, the keyboard has to function before any communication at all with the computer is possible. So something's not right there, maybe a missing dongle like you suggested. Anyway that's another problem.

You're getting Boot Manager errors which suggests that the boot sector files could be corrupted. I don't know what she did but I have to doubt she's responsible for that. Somehow, Windows seems to have found a way to trash itself in spite of the additional reliability the Raid 1 array should provide. Another problem.

You could replace the failed HD and buy a new full-version Windows disk, but you still have the problem of why the keyboard and mouse don't work. I can't say why they don't, but I have some doubts new ones will. Getting them working is the first thing to do, obviously.

You've gotta lotta problems...
 
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update:

got the aunt to bring the OLD keyboard and mouse. It was a Logitech
and came with a dongle. they work.. got the PC to react.
Learned: dongles are confirmed during boot up!! cool. (before software and drivers are runned)

system is a good one. got into CMOS
Intel Core i7 CPU 960 at 3.2ghz
12GB of RAM
harddrive = two Hitachi HDS721010C
2nd disk has "Error Occurred)

I tried to find these harddrives online.. they must be discontinued.
best match and price: http://www.amazon.com/HGST-16MB-720...hds72101&pebp=1422287342295&peasin=B001Q9EKU0

do you think that will work as a replacement?

before I attempt to purchase and install drive.
could I just pull the bad drive out.. try to see if the system will boot with 1 drive?

also I can get into the Intel RAID software... "cntl - I"
there are a few options:
1. create Raid volume
2. Delete Raid volume
3. Reset Disk to on-raid
4. recovery volume options
5. accelerate options (not selectable)
6. exit

what do you think is my next best try?
I think the safest test.. is to remove the 2nd HD. just to see what the sys does.
 
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You're right - a decent system, should be worth saving.

It bothers me a lot that the computer does not boot up. Now that you've got a working keyboard, describe exactly what happens when you try starting the PC.

In a Raid 1 array it should function normally off the remaining disk regardless of which disk that is. There could be a few reasons it failed to do so including but not limited to:
A. The good disk has a trashed boot sector or Windows has managed to scramble itself somehow. Imagine that...
B. The good disk (according to the BIOS) is actually also bad.
C. The machine has the disks setup in a Raid 0 rather than a Raid 1. Not particularly likely, but possible. Unlike a Raid 1, there is no redundancy in a Raid 0 and if one drive fails you're toast.

You can try pulling the bad drive. I doubt it will help but it can't hurt. Configured correctly I suppose the drive you found would work, but if you have to reload Windows anyway, as cheap as drives are now I'd replace both and start fresh. Or buy one or reuse the existing HD and skip doing the Raid array. The redundancy and reliability of a Raid 1 is significant, however.

BTW, do you have the user manual or have you looked up the model number online to get more information about the unit and how it's configured?

IMHO pass on Windows 8x and install Windows 7 Pro. Win 8x is soooo bad...

I'm not going to go into detail explaining Raid arrays and setup here, sorry. You're not stupid and some simple Google searches will provide far more information than I can type out. But feel free to ask questions and I'll do my best to help.

I will say this: you can setup a Raid 1 either via hardware (setting up the array in the onboard Raid chip set in BIOS settings) or via software (setting up the array in Windows) and you'll find tutorials for both methods. I prefer the hardware method myself.
 
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I opened her up.. and unplugged the raid sata cable to the 2nd drive and power to it.

the system booted and said there was an error with the 1.8TB raid drive...
but started to "load windows files" .. and now it booted to Windows7 installation screen.
*** remember than the aunt had purchased windows 8 upgrade..
I think the system is reloading from some original files.. and starting fresh.
maybe everything(data) is lost.... but back to working.

I am going to let it load.. then install the windows 8 upgrade.. that was provided by the aunt.
 
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