My first year with android.

thekingsteven · Jan 31, 2015

So I've been with android for a bout a year now and it wasn't by choice. Last year it snowed here in Alabama (very rare event) and I dropped my iPhone 4s with out realizing it. I left to pick up my cousin from school before the roads got bad. Anyway I had no idea I dropped it till I was almost to his school. Little did I know it was buried in the snow with its ringer turned off. By the time I found it it was dead useless not working piece of junk! Sprint let me out of my contract which only had a month left. So I decided that because money was tight I'd switch to prepay service. So I used a cheep Motorola g I got from a pawn shop.. With Verizon wireless. I fell in love with android right then and there. I loved the customization I could have.

After about 2 month I decided to go back to sprint and get I higher end phone. Which was the note 3. The charm of android was even greater with the note 3, it felt faster and looked better. I didn't have freezing or lag like I would always get on iPhone! I used my note 3 until the 6 months where up and I could use easy pay to get another phone. This time I switched to the HTC one m8. I went with the Harmon/Kardon m8 because I love music

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I've learned that android devices are all different. HTC's phones are extremely different from Samsung. Where as iPhone is and iPhone it never seems to change and you never get that "new" feeling when you get a new iPhone. With android your almost certain to have a different experience then you did on the last android phone. So over all I don't think I will ever switch back to iPhone. I just can't. Android has been so far the best mobile experience ever!

thekingsteven · Jan 31, 2015

This post was a little rushed so o don't think I conveyed my point as I wanted to but you can get the picture! I also didn't proof read so sorry for any mistake!

funkylogik · Jan 31, 2015

Great post mate and great to see a happy convert :thumbsupdroid:

AZgl1500 · Jan 31, 2015

i thought it was a great post, and it conveyed exactly what you felt/feel about the two OSs.....

Always been on Android, Apple burned their toast with me back in 1982 by soaking my Wallet to the $$$ hilt. I swore right then and there, I would never, ever, wait, that IS never, ever allow an Apple product anywhere on my ranch.
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scary alien · Jan 31, 2015

Great post, thekingsteven

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It's funny to think how close I came to getting an iPhone. My family were all with Verizon at the time and if the iPhone would have been offered back in November of 2009, I actually probably would have purchased one.

Now I'm on my 6th Android device* and happy as a clam

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* = HTC Droid Eris, Motorola Droid X, Samsung Galaxy Nexus, Motorola Xoom, Asus Nexus 7, LG Nexus 5
(I still have all but the Xoom, which my son now has)

thekingsteven · Feb 1, 2015

Its funny because even tho I had a used moto g. I still loved it right until I traded it for the note 3! I think its funny that I was angry about having to switch because I couldn't afford the iPhone 5s! Now after funning CM on my note 3 and experiencing that power that you don't get with iPhone was mind blowing! I'm always moding and customizing. I've never ran stock anything. Android can truly be what you want. And iOS cant.
I don't think I'll ever use iPhone again!

thekingsteven · Feb 1, 2015

thekingsteven said:
Its funny because even tho I had a used moto g. I still loved it right until I traded it for the note 3! I think its funny that I was angry about having to switch because I couldn't afford the iPhone 5s! Now after funning CM on my note 3 and experiencing that power that you don't get with iPhone was mind blowing! I'm always moding and customizing. I've never ran stock anything. Android can truly be what you want. And iOS cant.
I don't think I'll ever use iPhone again!

It was not a moto g. It was a Motorola RAZR m... It had android 4.3 I believe I still have it tho it no longer works!

thekingsteven · Feb 1, 2015

scary alien said:
Great post, thekingsteven .

It's funny to think how close I came to getting an iPhone. My family were all with Verizon at the time and if the iPhone would have been offered back in November of 2009, I actually probably would have purchased one.

Now I'm on my 6th Android device* and happy as a clam .

* = HTC Droid Eris, Motorola Droid X, Samsung Galaxy Nexus, Motorola Xoom, Asus Nexus 7, LG Nexus 5
(I still have all but the Xoom, which my son now has)

I have one of the first android tablets.. I think it is anyway. I received it as a gift in 2010 it ran android 2.3 I believe. It was terrible and hardly worked. It was mostly for internet and music.. I used the think for a day and never touched it again... I guess that was what made me chose apple Cuz I assumed everything android was like that... So to be technical that was my first android device...
I took the damn thing apart if y'all wanna see its innards! Lol

lunatic59 · Feb 2, 2015

thekingsteven said:
I have one of the first android tablets.. I think it is anyway. I received it as a gift in 2010 it ran android 2.3 I believe. It was terrible and hardly worked. It was mostly for internet and music.. I used the think for a day and never touched it again... I guess that was what made me chose apple Cuz I assumed everything android was like that... So to be technical that was my first android device...
I took the damn thing apart if y'all wanna see its innards! Lol

You probably got a no-name tablet made in a back alley in China and sold on the street for under $100. They can have their uses, but you have to be a little savvy when buying this sort of thing. What you have discovered is that Android is used on a wide spectrum of devices from the bargain basement to the penthouse, it just depends on which floor you get off.

dan330 · Feb 2, 2015

that is 1 of the things with android...

iPhone is only from Apple.. NO one else. it comes in 1 flavor.
1 size fits all. fine.. 2014 they have 2 sizes. but still the same face.

so many makers of android devices hardware.. so many different devices from each maker.
each maker has a different way of presenting android to users.
if you don't like one.. there are many others to choose from.

then you bring in your own customization of what you seen on the screen.

thekingsteven · Feb 4, 2015

As of now I have discovered one thing about android I do not like..... Bluetooth support. Ever since my switch to android I have the worst time using Bluetooth on my phones. I have a Bluetooth speaker system set up in my living room and none of the phones I have had stay connected to them for long. It get choppy and I'll lose them and have to scan over and over to reconnect. And its any android phone. So yeah that's the only thing I don't like!

Stuntman · Feb 7, 2015

thekingsteven said:
As of now I have discovered one thing about android I do not like..... Bluetooth support. Ever since my switch to android I have the worst time using Bluetooth on my phones. I have a Bluetooth speaker system set up in my living room and none of the phones I have had stay connected to them for long. It get choppy and I'll lose them and have to scan over and over to reconnect. And its any android phone. So yeah that's the only thing I don't like!

I found the iPhone 5S was more reliable connecting to the BT audio system in my car than my Galaxy S3. Granted, these phones were released 2 years apart. I normally don't have any issues connecting with the GS3, but once in a while the music doesn't auto play or it would take a long time before it connects. There also may be some lag when using the car's dash controls to advance or move back a track. For the most part, it works well, but it's just annoying on those few occasions when I have to restart the car to reconnect.

thekingsteven · Feb 7, 2015

Well I discovered that my issue was that I had my BT receiver setup wrong. A friend was at my house and I was telling him my issue and he explained how I'm too far from the receiver. I moved the BT receiver to under my TV and everything is fine! I had it in a cabinet in NY extra room.

nickdalzell · Feb 7, 2015

I was an Apple person way way back during the iPhone 3GS days. i loved the UI. it looked futuristic 3D and got better over time, eventually got an iPad 3 (then the 'New iPad') in 2010 and in 2012 a MacBook Pro. I loved the polish, the gloss, the fact that it worked fine. This is after coming from a dying Nokia 5185i on Verizon (Page Plus Cellular leasing VZW towers as it's not e911) that i preferred due to it doing what i needed it to, and being a familiar UI, the covers interchanged and you could find those things everywhere! Like before when i'd try a brand new phone with color screen and Symbian or a BlackBerry-like QWERTY phone with Windows Mobile, i always came back to the 5185i, well now it was the iPhone with its amazing OS. it did what i wanted it to, never crashed, got days of battery life, and didn't need replacement every season.

I tried Android phones from time to time to see what all the hubbub was about, but this was Android 2.1, Android 2.2, 2.3 which all basically sucked. those phones rebooted themselves a ton, got horrible battery life, ran hot in my pocket, lagged like a 486 running Windows 98SE, and worse, had paltry internal storage in the hundred Megabyte range, vs. my 3GS's 16 GIGAbytes.

I came up for an upgrade in late 2012 and settled on the iPhone 4. loved the design of it, made my 3GS look cheesy by comparison, battery life was now a week, and it later got iOS 6, which was perhaps the most polished yet.

But, all good things came to an end with one update. iOS 7. before, i'd get a little '1' tick on my settings icon and it would sit there until i manually went to settings--About--software update and tapped 'install'. but i woke up one morning to find both my iPad and iPhone 4 with the hideous new OS, hoping it was a joke like Sea Lion (go to YouTube). it was not. tried to fire up iTunes and downgrade with an iOS 6 IPSW file, which worked all other times before, but not this time. I was pissed. now it looked like i was using not just a UI that reminded me of the days of DOS and low-resolution displays, but also looked like something a 'Brony' would use. Gone was my nice notepad app, nice calendar app, my battery now lasted hours instead of days, and familiar UI elements were gone or changed to something less friendly for me to use (i am the type who lives by 'if it ain't broke, don't fix it). my iPad was worse off. the icon dock at the bottom was now a flat grey bar (OS X Tiger-like in fact) and my beautiful picture of a pet doe was now cut off at the bottom. i could not find a means to restore my nice 3-D dock that didn't take up the lower third of the screen like an ugly navbar on Android.

After living with, and giving the OS a 'chance' for a while, and even using older iOS apps that somehow could revert to the previous UI by invoking the older keyboard (ironically looked like the upgrade to the flat keyboard used in iOS 7) and the old icons and old UI inside the app, i finally decided to look at some flagship Android handsets hoping things improved since the days of Android 2.3

I played around with some demo units, some Nexus devices didn't interest me, HTC looked like an old phone (the design with huge bezels still comes off dated and hasn't changed much over time) and its UI went from looking nice in 2.3 to as crap as iOS 7 in 4.1.2.

I then noticed the Samsung Galaxy demos. i played with the then-new Galaxy SIII and loved the UI, which combined some familiar bits of iOS 6 (the polished messaging app, dialer and in-call menu style, etc) with the beauty of nature (sound effects, ringtones, organic colors) and still looking quite modern (future-thinking 3-D interface, tons of features inside the apps that most still don't relize exist today). I was sold. I got it and finally left Apple. i used my Mac for a while longer as the UI didn't really change until recently, and while not the abomination iOS 7 was, it was not for me. I now have a Galaxy S4 as my work phone, a Note 3 as my personal phone/home phone, a good number of various Samsung tablets, even a Samsung Smart TV.

Although i have dabbled in other products, ranging from an LG G3, Apple iPhone 5S, iPad Air 2, etc, and other Android devices including the Nexus 7, 10, and so on, I've settled on my Samsung's, just like i settled on my old Nokia of yore. You can hate TouchWiz, the skin Samsung uses, and has sadly taken the polish and features out of on newer devices (but thankfully didn't 'pull an Apple' and update my S4 and N3 overnight ), and you can think Google's way is the only way, that Samsung apps are bloatware (despite working ten times better and offering ten times the features) while Google's apps, every bit unremovable without root access are not bloatware for some odd reason, but for me, i'm sticking with whatever my Note and S4 use. It's familiar, consistent, and doesn't need to change unless i specifically decide to myself, in which case, i'll then upgrade to the next device fitting my needs.

mikedt · Feb 7, 2015

nickdalzell said:
I was an Apple person way way back during the iPhone 3GS days. i loved the UI. it looked futuristic 3D and got better over time, eventually got an iPad 3 (then the 'New iPad') in 2010 and in 2012 a MacBook Pro. I loved the polish, the gloss, the fact that it worked fine. This is after coming from a dying Nokia 5185i on Verizon (Page Plus Cellular leasing VZW towers as it's not e911) that i preferred due to it doing what i needed it to, and being a familiar UI, the covers interchanged and you could find those things everywhere! Like before when i'd try a brand new phone with color screen and Symbian or a BlackBerry-like QWERTY phone with Windows Mobile, i always came back to the 5185i, well now it was the iPhone with its amazing OS. it did what i wanted it to, never crashed, got days of battery life, and didn't need replacement every season.

I tried Android phones from time to time to see what all the hubbub was about, but this was Android 2.1, Android 2.2, 2.3 which all basically sucked. those phones rebooted themselves a ton, got horrible battery life, ran hot in my pocket, lagged like a 486 running Windows 98SE, and worse, had paltry internal storage in the hundred Megabyte range, vs. my 3GS's 16 GIGAbytes.

That would have been budget Android devices of course, often didn't have much storage, could be horribly unstable, even now some of them can still be like that. Like only <1GB internal on some really cheapo things.

My original Galaxy S with 2.3 had 16 gigabytes as well, but then that wasn't cheap, £400(about $600) at the time, as I didn't buy it subsidized. Had no real problems with it as regards battery life and stability. A busted AMOLED screen killed it in the end.

nickdalzell · Feb 7, 2015

there are 'budget' devices with better specs and more likely current versions of Android, which work quite well. i've used one so far and keep it as a spare.

However, even now there are still new devices being sold by Net10, Straight Talk, and Verizon (well, the RadioShack reseller) with very old versions of Android, namely 2.3. I find that a bit scary these days. While the UI to me wasn't that bad, i don't recall too many devices running Android 2.3 being very reliable, including flagships. i remember many pre-paid resold Galaxy SII's (Gingerbread, running first iteration of TouchWiz) being horribly laggy and unstable. IMO Android didn't start truly competeing with iOS until at least version 4.0, even if the UI of Ice Cream Sandwich was full of eye-straining Tron Blue.

My SIII wasn't perfect, but it got me to Android. I'm still not sold on SAMOLED, my SIII's got this ugly greenish hue tint close to a year after i got it, and then it blinked out completely. phone worked, screen was just dead. I'm still looking online for info whether this is normal EOL of AMOLED or if i suffered 'sudden death syndrome'

thekingsteven · Feb 8, 2015

nickdalzell said:
I was an Apple person way way back during the iPhone 3GS days. i loved the UI. it looked futuristic 3D and got better over time, eventually got an iPad 3 (then the 'New iPad') in 2010 and in 2012 a MacBook Pro. I loved the polish, the gloss, the fact that it worked fine. This is after coming from a dying Nokia 5185i on Verizon (Page Plus Cellular leasing VZW towers as it's not e911) that i preferred due to it doing what i needed it to, and being a familiar UI, the covers interchanged and you could find those things everywhere! Like before when i'd try a brand new phone with color screen and Symbian or a BlackBerry-like QWERTY phone with Windows Mobile, i always came back to the 5185i, well now it was the iPhone with its amazing OS. it did what i wanted it to, never crashed, got days of battery life, and didn't need replacement every season.

I tried Android phones from time to time to see what all the hubbub was about, but this was Android 2.1, Android 2.2, 2.3 which all basically sucked. those phones rebooted themselves a ton, got horrible battery life, ran hot in my pocket, lagged like a 486 running Windows 98SE, and worse, had paltry internal storage in the hundred Megabyte range, vs. my 3GS's 16 GIGAbytes.

I came up for an upgrade in late 2012 and settled on the iPhone 4. loved the design of it, made my 3GS look cheesy by comparison, battery life was now a week, and it later got iOS 6, which was perhaps the most polished yet.

But, all good things came to an end with one update. iOS 7. before, i'd get a little '1' tick on my settings icon and it would sit there until i manually went to settings--About--software update and tapped 'install'. but i woke up one morning to find both my iPad and iPhone 4 with the hideous new OS, hoping it was a joke like Sea Lion (go to YouTube). it was not. tried to fire up iTunes and downgrade with an iOS 6 IPSW file, which worked all other times before, but not this time. I was pissed. now it looked like i was using not just a UI that reminded me of the days of DOS and low-resolution displays, but also looked like something a 'Brony' would use. Gone was my nice notepad app, nice calendar app, my battery now lasted hours instead of days, and familiar UI elements were gone or changed to something less friendly for me to use (i am the type who lives by 'if it ain't broke, don't fix it). my iPad was worse off. the icon dock at the bottom was now a flat grey bar (OS X Tiger-like in fact) and my beautiful picture of a pet doe was now cut off at the bottom. i could not find a means to restore my nice 3-D dock that didn't take up the lower third of the screen like an ugly navbar on Android.

After living with, and giving the OS a 'chance' for a while, and even using older iOS apps that somehow could revert to the previous UI by invoking the older keyboard (ironically looked like the upgrade to the flat keyboard used in iOS 7) and the old icons and old UI inside the app, i finally decided to look at some flagship Android handsets hoping things improved since the days of Android 2.3

I played around with some demo units, some Nexus devices didn't interest me, HTC looked like an old phone (the design with huge bezels still comes off dated and hasn't changed much over time) and its UI went from looking nice in 2.3 to as crap as iOS 7 in 4.1.2.

I then noticed the Samsung Galaxy demos. i played with the then-new Galaxy SIII and loved the UI, which combined some familiar bits of iOS 6 (the polished messaging app, dialer and in-call menu style, etc) with the beauty of nature (sound effects, ringtones, organic colors) and still looking quite modern (future-thinking 3-D interface, tons of features inside the apps that most still don't relize exist today). I was sold. I got it and finally left Apple. i used my Mac for a while longer as the UI didn't really change until recently, and while not the abomination iOS 7 was, it was not for me. I now have a Galaxy S4 as my work phone, a Note 3 as my personal phone/home phone, a good number of various Samsung tablets, even a Samsung Smart TV.

Although i have dabbled in other products, ranging from an LG G3, Apple iPhone 5S, iPad Air 2, etc, and other Android devices including the Nexus 7, 10, and so on, I've settled on my Samsung's, just like i settled on my old Nokia of yore. You can hate TouchWiz, the skin Samsung uses, and has sadly taken the polish and features out of on newer devices (but thankfully didn't 'pull an Apple' and update my S4 and N3 overnight ), and you can think Google's way is the only way, that Samsung apps are bloatware (despite working ten times better and offering ten times the features) while Google's apps, every bit unremovable without root access are not bloatware for some odd reason, but for me, i'm sticking with whatever my Note and S4 use. It's familiar, consistent, and doesn't need to change unless i specifically decide to myself, in which case, i'll then upgrade to the next device fitting my needs.

Samsung is what really sold me on android. I loved the interface so much more. And as i stated I liked the customizations you can have on android. And while HTC sense is my favorite look I will have a "first love" feeling toward Samsung's touchwiz on my note 3!

thekingsteven · Feb 8, 2015

mikedt said:
That would have been budget Android devices of course, often didn't have much storage, could be horribly unstable, even now some of them can still be like that. Like only <1GB internal on some really cheapo things.

My original Galaxy S with 2.3 had 16 gigabytes as well, but then that wasn't cheap, £400(about $600) at the time, as I didn't buy it subsidized. Had no real problems with it as regards battery life and stability. A busted AMOLED screen killed it in the end.

It had 1gb ram and 1gb usable memory.... It was slow And unusable for anything but music!

nickdalzell · Feb 8, 2015

The Note 3 is what replaced my SIII. Excellent device. IMO best version of TouchWiz too (my S4 has the same look as well). I wanted to like the Note 4 but not enough changed, the device looks bland compared to the shiny upscale looking Note 3, screen is the same size was hoping for a 6 incher, and all the Note series had bigger screens before, no new S-Pen features, and a hideously Google-inspired TouchWiz that's flat and old looking (i was around when flat design was all we had, aka, Mac OS 6, Windows 1.x, OS/2 Warp, GeOS) and save for a few sound effects, the Nature UX charm with its inviting organic feel was GONE. it's like Google pressured Samsung to use their crap sterile, cold militaristic looking UI on their devices. I'm sticking with the Note 3 and S4 until they either die completely or the flat design fad dies.

HTC Sense was really nice but now it's as flat as iOS 7, and has this cold industrial design feel to it, some very annoying gestures that are too easily triggered, Blinkfeed is uber annoying, and too basic. (no multi-window, a feature i find quite useful on Samsung TouchWiz). I've never felt too comfortable with the metal design either after living through the iPhone 4 antennagate issue and not being able to remove the battery means the HTC One M8 is disposable once the battery is at end of life.

EarlyMon · Feb 8, 2015

First year or last year with Android?

nickdalzell · Feb 8, 2015

Seeing as the OP seems happy i'd suspect first year and counting

thekingsteven · Feb 8, 2015

EarlyMon said:
First year or last year with Android?

First of many

I can't see my self going back to apple! Android phone/ tablet and my windows computer... I don't see my self using another apple product... Unless Microsoft screws windows up more....

EarlyMon · Feb 8, 2015

thekingsteven said:
It had 1gb ram and 1gb usable memory.... It was slow And unusable for anything but music!

That's not true at all.

My first Android was the Samsung Moment, 2009, running Cupcake.

My second the following year was the HTC Evo 4G - 512 MB ram, 1 GB, first big screen phone, first phone with a front facing camera (and Skype video chat via Fring (on a good 3G connection) was better than on my laptop), first 4G phone (although the WiMax service sucked in most of the few places that got it, it was the first (and yes, despite Internet myth to the contrary, that was 4G), built-in kickstand, and first phone after the Nexus One to get Flash support - back when that's all it took to watch Babylon 5, free and legally. HDMI out if you wanted to see it on your big screen.

One of the best phones ever made, once you removed the bloatware - that was not Android's or HTC's fault.

The speaker phone was LOUD and was never topped by anything until the HTC One years later, brands notwithstanding.

Call quality was excellent, to the point of Evo users being constantly asked if they were really using a cell phone.

Very far from just a slow music player.

And often welcomed by my poor friends who later got the iPhone 4 and wanted to show off their video chatting - which they could once I provided a wifi hotspot for them because for a long time, that was a wifi-only feature for iPhone users.

Also one of the the first phones ever distinguished as stopping a bullet (incorrectly reported later as the Droid Incredible but later corrected by the idiot writers who thought that they were the same phone).

http://www.iclarified.com/entry/index.php?enid=13461

The next year I got the HTC Evo 3D, also a bullet stopper - http://phandroid.com/2013/10/30/htc-evo-3d-saves-life/

An iPhone was able to slow down (but not stop) a bullet and save a life after the Evo in 2012. Well done iPhone!

http://www.digitaltrends.com/mobile/7-phones-that-stopped-bullets/

The SGS came after the Evo 4G and unlike it, never came close to its GPS performance. In fact many phones today still don't.

thekingsteven · Feb 8, 2015

EarlyMon said:
That's not true at all.

My first Android was the Samsung Moment, 2009, running Cupcake.

My second the following year was the HTC Evo 4G - 512 MB ram, 1 GB, first big screen phone, first phone with a front facing camera (and Skype video chat via Fring (on a good 3G connection) was better than on my laptop), first 4G phone (although the WiMax service sucked in most of the few places that got it, it was the first (and yes, despite Internet myth to the contrary, that was 4G), built-in kickstand, and first phone after the Nexus One to get Flash support - back when that's all it took to watch Babylon 5, free and legally. HDMI out if you wanted to see it on your big screen.

One of the best phones ever made, once you removed the bloatware - that was not Android's or HTC's fault.

The speaker phone was LOUD and was never topped by anything until the HTC One years later, brands notwithstanding.

Call quality was excellent, to the point of Evo users being constantly asked if they were really using a cell phone.

Very far from just a slow music player.

And often welcomed by my poor friends who later got the iPhone 4 and wanted to show off their video chatting - which they could once I provided a wifi hotspot for them because for a long time, that was a wifi-only feature for iPhone users.

Also one of the the first phones ever distinguished as stopping a bullet (incorrectly reported later as the Droid Incredible but later corrected by the idiot writers who thought that they were the same phone).

http://www.iclarified.com/entry/index.php?enid=13461

The next year I got the HTC Evo 3D, also a bullet stopper - http://phandroid.com/2013/10/30/htc-evo-3d-saves-life/

An iPhone was able to slow down (but not stop) a bullet and save a life after the Evo in 2012. Well done iPhone!

http://www.digitaltrends.com/mobile/7-phones-that-stopped-bullets/

The SGS came after the Evo 4G and unlike it, never came close to its GPS performance. In fact many phones today still don't.

maybe it was just that no name tablet... You couldn't even use the android market... Which is what play store was at the time. It lagged so bad. I took the thing apart and found it used little mini SD cards for memory and ram....it also had some kind of plastic screen which required you to touch really hard for it to recognize it. The build quality was awful. It would lose internet connection and freeze like crazy. It used full sized SD cards which was actually cool. The battery sucks bad. It was a 7.5 inch screen. And had a 1600 mAh battery. Which was huge by the way... It would hold charge for about one hour..

EarlyMon · Feb 8, 2015

The Evo 4G had a 1500 mAh battery, only got 4 hours for me until I removed the bloatware that kept a constant network connection back home.

WifelyMon's Evo 4G Shift from later that year with an iPhone sized screen and no rooting easily lasted her about 2 days on a charge with normal use. Used the same battery.

The problem is often repeated - not all Androids are created equally, comparing a bad one, either defective or cheap, is often done but never valid.

My Volkswagen Super Beetle and my Datsun 510 were both from 1972. Except the 510 was a production racer (one of the best in history up until that point), take off the consumer California emissions crap and restore performance with a few simple bolt ons and very, very few could match it at the quarter mile straightaway we used to race at.

Yet both were 4 bangers.

It's necessary to look at more than isolated numbers when comparing performance.

My first year with android.

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