Android Market and Kindle Fire

[The_app_main]

Will the Kindle Fire be able to access and run apps from the Kindle Market without rooting?

 

[Harry2]

Yes, apps from Amazon App Store ...

Harry

 

[aysiu]

The Kindle Market?

Android Market, no.
Amazon App Store, yes.

I'm not sure what the Kindle Market is.

 

[EarlyMon]

Typo as far as I can tell, no biggie.

 

[The_app_main]

Yes, apps from Amazon App Store ...

Harry

I got so excited about the kindle that I typed kindle market when I meant android market. So to restate will kindle fire be able to access and use apps from android market?

 

[EarlyMon]

aysiu says not.

 

[Harry2]

aysiu says not.

... and is right I'm afraid

Harry

 

[Martimus]

... and is right I'm afraid

Harry

... at least until some is able to root the device.

 

[A.Nonymous]

Supposedly, you can side load apps since you can mount the internal memory and copy stuff to it. Don't know how true that is.

 

[binaryhermit]

Supposedly, you can side load apps

Unless they pull an AT&T and don't allow sideloading, which they probably will, IMO.

 

[zuben el genub]

Found out an interesting thing about Amazon apps market today. I had downloaded Adobe PDF reader from Amazon - I deleted the Amazon market app from the Coby, and Adobe reader would NOT work without the Amazon Connection.
Since I managed the regular Android Market on the Coby, I replace with Beam reader which I bought for the phone.
Amazon can get lost if it's pulling this crap.

 

[A.Nonymous]

Unless they pull an AT&T and don't allow sideloading, which they probably will, IMO.

I would not disagree with you on that. It's certainly in their best interest to do that.

Found out an interesting thing about Amazon apps market today. I had downloaded Adobe PDF reader from Amazon - I deleted the Amazon market app from the Coby, and Adobe reader would NOT work without the Amazon Connection.
Since I managed the regular Android Market on the Coby, I replace with Beam reader which I bought for the phone.
Amazon can get lost if it's pulling this crap.

Amazon has been doing this since their App store came out. Some (but not all) of the stuff you get from the Amazon market is DRM'd.

 

[jerofld]

Found out an interesting thing about Amazon apps market today. I had downloaded Adobe PDF reader from Amazon - I deleted the Amazon market app from the Coby, and Adobe reader would NOT work without the Amazon Connection.
Since I managed the regular Android Market on the Coby, I replace with Beam reader which I bought for the phone.
Amazon can get lost if it's pulling this crap.

Just uninstall the one from Amazon market and install the one from Android Market.

And this is why I never truly feared market fragmentation. Amazon wants to make an Apple-esque walled garden? That's fine. How often do those apps get updated in comparison to the Andriod Market? Hardly ever. The Android Market is far from perfect, but it's better than most of the alternatives. Except for AppBrain, which (IIRC) is more or less an Android Market extension that does better app list backups and searching.

 

[A.Nonymous]

Just uninstall the one from Amazon market and install the one from Android Market.

And this is why I never truly feared market fragmentation. Amazon wants to make an Apple-esque walled garden? That's fine. How often do those apps get updated in comparison to the Andriod Market? Hardly ever. The Android Market is far from perfect, but it's better than most of the alternatives. Except for AppBrain, which (IIRC) is more or less an Android Market extension that does better app list backups and searching.

To be completely fair to Amazon, those apps don't get updated because the devs don't submit the updates. Every single story I've read about apps not getting updated has come to that conclusion. Devs just don't update their apps on Amazon for whatever reason. Still a drawback of using Amazon for sure, but not necessarily Amazon's fault.

 

[jerofld]

To be completely fair to Amazon, those apps don't get updated because the devs don't submit the updates. Every single story I've read about apps not getting updated has come to that conclusion. Devs just don't update their apps on Amazon for whatever reason. Still a drawback of using Amazon for sure, but not necessarily Amazon's fault.

If the article I read on the Amazon review process was accurate, it is Amazon's fault. Unfortunately, I don't remember where I saw it, but Amazon can sit on an app in the review process from 2-3 months. Meanwhile the app has been updated 3-4 times. If Amazon wanted to streamline the process, they would need to make it so apps could be pushed through the review process faster.

And if Amazon didn't like one part of the app, they'd reject it. So, in order to get the app on Amazon, the author would need to make a special Amazon version. Which makes it so they have to make their market version comply with the Amazon version or maintain two different versions of the app. Amazon can also change the price of the app as they choose and not consult the author(s). And I'm sure they take a pretty sizable chunk out of the sale, too. That's got to hurt devs and make it so they don't want to use the service.

 

[A.Nonymous]

I'm not familiar with the review process so I can't speak to that.

"Amazon pays developers 70% of the sale price of the app or 20% of the list price, whichever is greater." That's from the Developer home page. I think that's fairly standard across the board, but I don't know that for sure.

I have no doubt that Amazon's process has room for improvement, but that's true about any store I think.