I'm good friends with my VZW guy and he's been seeing what he can do to get me into the promo pricing, and after looking into pretty much everything I was still going to be stuck paying full retail. Then he asked if I knew anyone who would be interested in my Storm2 (here come the jokes I'm sure...) and if so he could switch my phone over to them in exchange for their upgrade. So, lo and behold one of my buddies has a Curve 8330 and is getting ready to deploy soon and it wouldn't do him much good to upgrade anytime soon. So he's getting my Storm2, I get his upgrade and it doesn't affect my upgrade date whatsoever so the other plus is that if another bad @ss phone gets released next year I'd most likely qualify for that as well. So for all of you stuck paying retail, see if any of your friends qualify for an upgrade but aren't phone freaks like we are. Just a thought, good luck everyone.