{confirmed} Xbox reverses DRM decisions and connectivity

[trophynuts]

Microsoft

 

[jhawkkw]

I have a suspect that if it's this easy for them to remove it this late into development, then it might be pretty easy to add it back in once enough people have it and they have their money.

 

[trophynuts]

Microsoft reverses Xbox One DRM policy, kills required online check-in and used game complications (confirmed)


confirmed

 

[qandres12]

It still more expensive

 

[jhawkkw]

It still more expensive

True, but now on a level playing field in terms of the restrictions that the gaming community cared about, the Xbone offers more to "justify" the higher price.

 

[trophynuts]

Yup. So now for a 100$ more i get.

Then New Kinect
the deal with NFL Network
All the media hoopla
.....wait for it...wait for it..

i still get the new CoD maps a month before Sony

 

[Shotgun84]

Kinect, don't need it
NFL, what's that?
PS4 can be used as a media machine
COD, overrated

Plus it's more than likely they'll add the restrictions back on with a software update. I'll stick with the more powerful PS4

 

[NYCHitman1]

COD, overrated

Couldn't have said it any better

 

[trophynuts]

I'll stick with the more powerful PS4

more powerful? Please explain. Other than the different type of Ram they're the same for the most part.


I was going to buy the Xbone regardless. But the 24 hour check meant i just wasn't going to get it at launch. I have both reserved. I was going with PS4 at launch and Xbone later. Now that will probably reverse.

some people don't like CoD and yeah don't need or want the other stuff. Personally for me i'm interested in it. Not to mention i've always like the Xbox Dashboard better anyway.

FWIW i do and have for the last several years owned the PS3 and 360

 

[Shotgun84]

Yeah I know there's not a lot in it. The PS4's custom cpu/gpu is slightly better. I was just pulling your leg more than anything else

 

[NYCHitman1]

some people don't like CoD and yeah don't need or want the other stuff. Personally for me i'm interested in it.

I used to love CoD, but I really disliked where Activision took the franchise, so I stopped playing it altogether. If I want my (short-lived) FPS fix, I'll play BF4 since it's more realistic anyway.

Not to mention i've always like the Xbox Dashboard better anyway.

As do I, but I just can't give them money after this stunt. I refuse. We're enabling them to continue their greed and arrogance.

 

[trophynuts]

but after the reversal what greed are they displaying? you have to pay for PSplus.

 

[NYCHitman1]

but after the reversal what greed are they displaying? you have to pay for PSplus.

PS+ isn't a requirement though. Also, I wasn't referring to greed as in charging to use XBL. I already know that XBL is the superior online experience from being a long time M$ supporter since the OG Xbox. However, what I am referring to is the fact that they really did think that the anti-consumer policies were a good idea and fully planned to stick by them until all of the backlash came about. I believe the damage has been done already and M$ will see their sales take quite a hit because of this nonsense they pulled.

 

[Metroid Prime]

Not only that, but I don't think I'll still be getting the Xbox One simply because of what M$ tried to do to us and thought it's fans would still get the console regardless of the restrictions and DRM. They'll probably go back on what they said once people get roped in since they can change their policy anytime they see fit. Plus, in my opinion I could care less for Call Of Duty.

 

[Italo]

PS+ isn't a requirement though. Also, I wasn't referring to greed as in charging to use XBL. I already know that XBL is the superior online experience from being a long time M$ supporter since the OG Xbox. However, what I am referring to is the fact that they really did think that the anti-consumer policies were a good idea and fully planned to stick by them until all of the backlash came about. I believe the damage has been done already and M$ will see their sales take quite a hit because of this nonsense they pulled.

PS+ will be required for online play with the PS4. But, I agree with you. M$ made the big announcement to test the waters and see how bad the response would be. Even though they've reversed the policies, the damage is done. It's not good for consumer trust to propose anti-consumer policies, and then flip-flop when there's vocal opposition.

The fact that they are able to change it so easily makes me think they knew they knew it wouldn't fly. All their arrogant talk about connected experiences, and "buy a 360 if you don't have internet," didn't help either.

 

[NYankee]

more powerful? Please explain. Other than the different type of Ram they're the same for the most part.

Anandtech: Tech analysis -- PS4 vs Xbox One, PS4/Xbox One's CPU performance - NeoGAF


PS4 has 8 GB of DDR5 compared to XBox 180 having 8GB of DDR3.

PS4 Operating system is only using 1 GB which leaves 7 GB for games. XBOX 180 is using 3 GB for the operating system leaving only 5GB for games.

PS4 has 18 GPU compared to XBOX 180 having 12 GPU.

 

[NYankee]

PS+ will be required for online play with the PS4. But, I agree with you. M$ made the big announcement to test the waters and see how bad the response would be. Even though they've reversed the policies, the damage is done. It's not good for consumer trust to propose anti-consumer policies, and then flip-flop when there's vocal opposition.

The fact that they are able to change it so easily makes me think they knew they knew it wouldn't fly. All their arrogant talk about connected experiences, and "buy a 360 if you don't have internet," didn't help either.

Not all PS4 online games are going to require PS Plus. It's up to the developer.

 

[Metroid Prime]

PS Plus is going to be $5 a month so I've heard.

 

[jhawkkw]

PS Plus is going to be $5 a month so I've heard.

That's what I heard as well. If that's the case, it's equal in price to xbox live gold.

 

[qandres12]

The ps4 hard drive is upgrable just how they always been though

 

[qandres12]

That's what I heard add well. If that's the case, it's equal in price to xbox live gold.

Well idk about the monthly price but the 12 month charge is 60 for the Live and for PSN+ its 50

 

[jhawkkw]

Well idk about the monthly price but the 12 month charge is 60 for the Live and for PSN+ its 50

But if what is rumored to be the price is indeed 5 dollars per month, 5*12 = 60. So maybe there will be a monthly rate and a yearly bundle reduced rate when the new system launches? Or maybe that 50 is going to go up to 60.

 

[trophynuts]

Anandtech: Tech analysis -- PS4 vs Xbox One, PS4/Xbox One's CPU performance - NeoGAF


PS4 has 8 GB of DDR5 compared to XBox 180 having 8GB of DDR3.

PS4 Operating system is only using 1 GB which leaves 7 GB for games. XBOX 180 is using 3 GB for the operating system leaving only 5GB for games.

PS4 has 18 GPU compared to XBOX 180 having 12 GPU.

great points. I didn't know that about the GPU

 

[NYCHitman1]

PS+ will be required for online play with the PS4.

I think that's only for certain titles. It really doesn't matter to me though because the bundle I pre-ordered on Amazon comes with 1 yr of PS+ alongside BF4 and the console. I'll probably end up snagging Watch Dogs and any other interesting launch titles.

 

[NYankee]

I think I am going to get PS4 Watch Dogs. AC4, Kill Zone 4 and maybe COD.