Google Talk opens even when off/closed/killed


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  1. Lock-N-Load

    Lock-N-Load Well-Known Member This Topic's Starter

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    So, not much of a Google Talk user, but now and then. And, I mostly use it via my desktop gMail app.. not on my phone.

    Anyway, I close out the Talk app, but no matter what, even if it is closed, killed, off, it activates itself when someone sends me a chat.. even if I am logged on via my gMail account.

    How the heck can you shut it off? What is it that makes it start up because someone wants to chat. I see no way to stop it and I am not always in the mood or able to chat and do not want to be disturbed but this Google Talk seems to start up and alert you anyway.

    ideas?
     

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  2. CRPercodani

    CRPercodani OFWGKTA VIP Member

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    Hmmm...if I have gtalk open on my pc then it doesn't send them to my phone. Anyway to totally stop it you need to open the app and hit menu>more>sign out.
     
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    Lock-N-Load Well-Known Member This Topic's Starter

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    hmm.. let me clarify some

    If I have gMail chat open on my desktop and I am in a chat. It does not send the chat to my phone also, it keeps it on the gMail desktop app... which is good and expected

    BUT

    if a new person wants to chat, it alerts my phone even if I am right there in the desktop gMail chat talk app already. Why would it do that when I am obviously actively in chat using the desktop gMail app?

    BTW, are you saying that simply closing the Droid talk app is not enough? You have to sign out and then close it? And if so, if you sign out of the Droid Talk app and close it, but then sign in on your desktop gMail chat app, does it not just sign in your Droid also and thus, even though you are on your computer, it now opened the channel on your Droid and so even though you had no Droid Talk going, you have to now sign out..
     
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    Lock-N-Load Well-Known Member This Topic's Starter

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    okay, I assumed that setting my message as "busy" with the red dot would stop a chat from coming through. It does not.

    So, I did what you said and went menu>more>sign out and signed out and now it seems no requests come through to the phone.

    wow, that seems pretty weak design to have to drill down to "sign out" and you
     
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    Lock-N-Load Well-Known Member This Topic's Starter

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    I also just learned, via some testing, if you sign out of chat, and a person try's to chat with you and cannot since you are not online, it sends you an email with the persons attempted chat info... jeez, it is like you can't get away from it.

    the system is like, "don't want to chat? to bad as we are going to send you an email instead"
     
  6. Scottd9000

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    I stop it by doing the "sign out" under menu. Often forget to sign back in when I am away - but I do agree it would be nice to have a few Android features added to allow you to pick when to have messages sent. I like the option to have the Android picture to show friends using Android but I wish it showed them I was on my phone too.
     
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    Lock-N-Load Well-Known Member This Topic's Starter

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    so, my lessons learned thus far:

    1. to stop getting alerts on the phone you have to "sign out" - just turning the app off/closing it/killing it will not stop them.

    2. if you are signed off of Talk, and someone trys to chat with you, you will get an email anyway - so it seems, your going to get an alert 1 way or another

    3. it seems you can sign out of your Droid, sign in on your desktop, and then only get activity via the desktop. so, I am assuming the converse is true from what I tested so that if you sign out of your desktop and sign in on your Droid, the desktop will not be active but if you sign in on both, both are active and all hell breaks loose
     
  8. CRPercodani

    CRPercodani OFWGKTA VIP Member

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    I'm not sure about this, but check and see if there are any settings on the google site for email alerts.



    Sent from my Droid using Tapatalk
     
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    I set my gmail app to not auto sign in also so the only time i get msgs is when its open
     
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    Lock-N-Load Well-Known Member This Topic's Starter

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    I looked for a setting like that first thing, but never saw anything to address that
     
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    Lock-N-Load Well-Known Member This Topic's Starter

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    you mean in the Droid Talk app? Yes, I also set that to not "automatically sign in".. but really, what does that even mean?? because it seems to me, if you open the Talk app, and have it set to not automatically sign in, you in fact get signed in.

    Why do I think that way? because I see no way to "sign in" I only see a way to "sign out" - so that tells me, even though I have it set to not "automatically sign in", it does anyway and that is proven by the fact you only have an option to "sign out" once you open Talk.
     
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    its so it wont sign u in on when you reboot your phone
     
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    Lock-N-Load Well-Known Member This Topic's Starter

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    hmmm...

    but based on what I said, it will sign you in anyway. If it signs you in, even with that not checked, when you don't reboot, then why would it act any different if you reboot.

    my point is, it does not seem to pay any attention to that setting. As I said above, it signs you in anyway.
     
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    I see what you mean but think of the auto sign in as an actually auto start on startup option because that is what it is. Just tested it too
     
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    Lock-N-Load Well-Known Member This Topic's Starter

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    I got ya.. what you mean is if that is checked, it will turn Talk on when the phone boots so that when it boots, Talk is running. I got it.
     
  16. Soultics

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    Not that this will solve your issue, but if you use Latitude on your Maps, the communication is done using Google Talk, and that could have something to do with it.

    IE, Latitude updates your position, notices google talk not running, starts it.

    Not sure if it actually works that way, but it could potentially.
     
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    Lock-N-Load Well-Known Member This Topic's Starter

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    good thought

    but I don't use Latitude as I can't fathom allowing people to have that much insight into my day/life/activities/location.. not a chance...
     
  18. nycebo

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    It's meant to be like Blackberry Messenger. Guys, remember, it's a GOOGLE phone. It hogs virtually no memory or battery. Leave it.
     
  19. vandyblackandgold

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    i am a HUGE google apps user....church staff i serve with, we do everything with google and talk/chat is a huge part of our everyday process....

    this is one thing i wish google would do....

    i wish they would take their technology that they are using to power google wave and share it with gmail....

    i have gmail, my droid, and talk/chat on my desktop....now i solved the droid issue a while back...no auto sign in, no problem, but if i ever open chat on my desktop (with anticipation of not having my browser open at some point) and then go into my gmail inbox, i get a copy of everything said in chat in both places....annoying, i wish they were able to sync it to know that wherever i started a chat, to leave it there unless i signed out of that particular app. that make sense?

    in regards to the email about chat comment. personally i like this. i am always moving, never sitting in one place, especially since my church is multi-site. all of our offices reside on one campus while the other campus (where i am the student pastor at) is about 15 minutes away. my time requires me to be over there a lot, away from the rest of the staff....so a chat might be open all day with someone as we talk about things....at some point the conversation might fade off as we are working on other things....i might leave to go to the other campus and the other person might have an idea or something they need to add and they dont realize i am offline at this point. chat sent, i get an email instead, everything is kosher b/c now that person doesnt have to worry about retyping it or remembering to tell me later. i know it seems like a really random, out-of-left field example, but you would be amazed how may times that happens in a day....

    my wife works for a publishing company that is 1300+ employees. they went google. happens to her all the time too.

    just my $.02 :D
     
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    Lock-N-Load Well-Known Member This Topic's Starter

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    you totally missed the point.. it is not 1 bit about the battery, it is about how it works, understanding how it is integrated with the desktop app, and how you can get away from it if your not interested in chatting or being disturbed.
     
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    Wouldn't that be the option to disable notifications then?
     
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    Lock-N-Load Well-Known Member This Topic's Starter

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    did you actually read this thread?
     
  23. nycebo

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    Did you actually read my post?! On the blackberry, you CAN'T turn off blackberry messenger, either. Hence, I suggested that Google is attempting to do the exact same thing. As such, if it's really bothering you, the only real 'solution' is to disable notifications...just as it's the same 'solution' on the blackberry. The consolation is that Google Talk doesn't really use that much memory or battery when it's 'on'. This concept of this thread has been discussed ad nauseum on other threads. Indeed, here's two quick posts that I found in 2 seconds with search here and here.
     
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    Lock-N-Load Well-Known Member This Topic's Starter

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    yeah, I read your post(s) and...

    1. you talk about the BB, not applicable here

    2. you tell us to chill as it hogs little to no battery power - when that was not even the issue or thread topic

    3. you ask "Wouldn't that be the option to disable notifications then?" when this whole thread IS about trying to figure out how best to adjust notifications!!!! That's the whole point of the topic.. how to disable and configure and understand the notifications in both the Talk app and how it ties to the gMail app and how it is not that easy or intuitive to determine how to manage them both!! and then you chime in with that and then "As such, if it's really bothering you, the only real 'solution' is to disable notifications".. well duh.. that is what this is all about!!

    4. "This concept of this thread has been discussed ad nauseum on other threads." not sure what that means since when you start a thread, the boards system shows you applicable threads and I checked them and saw none like this? so I started this.
     
  25. ssantan2

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    hes not talking about it taking any power or memory, hes saying he doesnt want to be signed into google talk all the time. So disabling notifications doesnt accomplish that, only turning gchat off does
     

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