Really frustrated by Android so far (but love the idea & its potential)


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  1. paranoid_android

    paranoid_android Well-Known Member This Topic's Starter

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    I am frustrated, and this is, clearly, a rant. It's true. But I don't claim this to be anything more than just one (new) user's subjective-perspective.

    I feel as though Android (1.5) is--out of the box, anyway--positively the antithesis of its Linux roots. Linux gave us control, and let us run things our way. But attempts seem many and varied from the Brass ranks to control the experience. No doubt, the fact that it is born from open-source has meant that if you really want, you really can take total control. But does it have to be conformity or exile?

    What I mean is, though Windows (Destop or Mobile) has many flaws, I've always felt a fantastic sense of opportunity, control, options, etc.--I think this has more to do with Microsoft's history than with genius or spirit. Anyway, if I "x" out of an app, it closes! It's gone baby, gone. Never to come back--unless I say so. If I want a new application, I can checkout Staples, NewEgg, Softpedia, C/Net, etc., etc., etc. And none are more official than the other. And I don't have to search for them on my phone through a controlled interface.

    And none of the above requires a root-kit, research, hacks, tips or tricks, just the essential PC how-to's. Though not all Distributions are that way, Linux in general is the same (for the desktop, anyway). If I tell an app to lie down and die, it does. And I didn't need an add-on for it, nor did I have to open an application just so I could close another. I just hit the button (or at most just 2-clicked: file->exit).

    Also, I'm not yet sure why, but it seems as though many or most of the applications--especially multimedia ones--are the sort of mushy-headed, wimpy, high-fashionista, controlled interfaces you'd expect in the dumbed-down I-Phone world. What's so hard about {file->open->Ok Computer.m3u} anyway? Haven't found one that I can do that with. Oh-no, you'll search the library and you'll get downloaded album art--and you'll like it, hipster!

    In short I bought a tool, and I want to use it my way, but I don't want a new hobby, project or advanced degree every time I want to stray outside the lines a little bit. If I want to close applications, sure, I can do a little research and try a few different apps for that (results may vary). If background apps are going to run even after hiding them, then the option to shut them down should be built in--and simple.

    Having said all this, I think Android is the most exciting and promising thing in mobile computing and comm yet. Even the Android Market. Yes, I said it: though I really wish finding cool apps was easier on just plain old, hmmm--Google!--I do like the Marketplace. I-Phonies seem to like it, and I have nothing against something that makes it really simple and easy. And it does that. I love the Out-of-Box interface too. The scrolling, three-faced home screen with icons that can be added and easily arranged is fantastic--took no time at all to figure out. And most importantly, the fact that ultimately we do indeed have the power to add and remove functionality--if we want to invest the time--is unbeatable.

    What I'm getting at is, well, for now there's no middle ground (Android is still fairly new, though). For now, it seems as though I either have to accept the out of the box Fischer-Price mode, or move straight past the power user stage and get out my solder and shrink tube. If the former doesn't work for me, it means I have to invest more hours than I have free to do things I've already long since invested time on, for half a dozen other time-tested platforms.

    Remember, this is--categorically--a rant...an opinion. If anything, it is intended to caution, not dissuade. ...certainly not to offend or deride. It isn't even a review, and clearly countless others are quite happy with Android--right out of the box.
     

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    AndroidSPCS Well-Known Member

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    quite true, I agree.
     
  3. lekky

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    Interesting!

    Regarding the music side, I gave up with my Hero. Nothing can match my Zune HD, nothing even comes close, thats why I traded in my 160 iPod classic to get a 32gb HD. Tried for a while with the Hero but it doesn't cut the mustard for me.

    I'd also like to comment on how lucky you are, never having experienced clicking the big red cross only for nothing to happen, then see the program freeze, then the computer freeze, requiring a task kill, or even an unplug and start again.

    At the moment, android isn't a platform where you can just buy a phone and start using it to its potential. Its new, its maturing so i can understand why. To be honesty theres a part of me that wants it to stay that way. Too much dumbing down and i may as well have just bought an iPhone instead..

    I can definately understand where you are coming from, totally, its not so much my experience though, maybe i'm more technically minded or geeky ( :( ). I enjoy looking through the market and forums and finding new things.

    Actually just thought about a work mate of mine, he was looking for a new phone this week, and oh how i wanted to advise him to get an android device, in the end it would have just been a bad decision. He wanted a phone that would work well with his pdfs and ms docs, standard internet browser and did everything it could ever do out of the box. He went with a htc touch 2 in the end, and i'd agree a winmo device was exactly what he needed, no learning anything new and jsut get on with his day.

    Anyway yes agree to a point, but kind of want it to stay like it is!
     
  4. paranoid_android

    paranoid_android Well-Known Member This Topic's Starter

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    Lek,

    Which "big red cross" do you mean?

    As for dumming down, that's what's bothered me about I-Phones--really, Apple in general--for years. I guess my complaint about Android (at least for now) is that to some degree I feel like they've done the same thing. The music apps were the best example of this that I could think of. Compare any of the Droid players with, for example, TCPMP. The latter, while sorely lacking in skinnability, is a superb program. To say nothing of its stability, TCPMP provides us the courtesy of a simple file->open anyfile.anyext. It plays just about anything and doesn't try to tell me how I should organize my music-just folders and files. What could be simpler? Nothing against added functionality if you want to make a "library" OPTIONAL.

    With Android, I feel like it's either 1984 or it's the Road Warrior. I just want options without exile, which I think the history and ubiquity of WinMo have provided. The problem with that OS is, I think, poor UI, slow, buggy, and, of course, it's fascist.
     
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    Just meant the close button on top right of a program in Windows :p
     
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    paranoid_android Well-Known Member This Topic's Starter

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    Ah. And, hell yes I've been there.
     

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