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if verizon gets iphone, will you leave droid?

Bad assumption. I was one of those crazy people waiting outside Verizon the day the Droid was available, and I love my Droid.

But, before the droid, had the IPhone been available on Verizon, I'd already have one. I have nothing against IPhone, its a great product.

AT&T on the other hand, I've hated since the early days when they would change people(including me) to their long distance without asking, or even telling you they did it. I decided back then, I'd never do business with AT&T.

So, don't put me in the anti-Apple column, but you can put me in the anti-AT&T group.

I'm just sayin....

I totally agree, I loved my iPhone and iPhone 3GS, still think it is a great phone, every bit as good as the DROID which is the only real competition for the iPhone. But my problem is with AT&T. As soon as there was a decent phone that was close to the iPhone I switched and depending on what the new iPhone is like when it is available on Verizon, I will consider it.

Another thing to keep in mind though is the Google phone, it is coming. Google had a lot to do with building the DROID but not total control and look at how much better the DROID is than the competition (other android phones). I am looking forward to seeing what the actual Google phone has to offer.

And one last thing for the Apple haters, the iPhone revolutionized phones. They changed everything. Without the iPhone the DROID would not exist. It has taken everyone over 2 years just to catch up to apple and create anything close to the original iPhone.
 
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And one last thing for the Apple haters, the iPhone revolutionized phones. They changed everything. Without the iPhone the DROID would not exist. It has taken everyone over 2 years just to catch up to apple and create anything close to the original iPhone.
the cell phone also revolutionized phones. without the cell phone, the iphone would not exist. everything is built on something. so what. in fact, it's possible that if the iphone didn't exist a whole slew of innovative devices could exist now, as apple pretty much locked up the market there for a while and stifled competition. no one can say what might or might not have been.

don't forget that pda's including palm and win CE existed prior to the iphone. the iphone represented an evolutionary step, but it's stagnating. maybe android is the next step.

the iphone is simple enough that grandma can use it. but to me, its simplicity is a major limitation. the iphone is fine for many people. great. but it's not the second coming of christ.


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I am just curious, for the people that said yes, what does the iPhone do that the Droid doesn't?

I think the iPhone is a fine device, but it seems like Android + Droid offers so much more.

Is it just because Apple has 300,000 apps? I mean, other than that, I do not know of one significant feature the iPhone has over the Droid.

(I am not trying to be a closed-minded, anti-apple person. I seriously don't mind the iPhone, I just don't get what it does that is so special)
 
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No... TO me the Droid is the better competitor. It may not be as refined as the Iphone yet, but it will get there. The Biggest Difference between the two to me is the open source nature of the Android platform. Google is the good guy, open and available to anyone. Apple is bureaucracy and red tape that refuses to expand and locks features on their devices so you can pay or upgrade to unlock them later?? Who puts features on a phone like WIFI and then locks it so you cant use it?? Thats just ridiculous to me.
 
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I am just curious, for the people that said yes, what does the iPhone do that the Droid doesn't?

I think the iPhone is a fine device, but it seems like Android + Droid offers so much more.

Is it just because Apple has 300,000 apps? I mean, other than that, I do not know of one significant feature the iPhone has over the Droid.

(I am not trying to be a closed-minded, anti-apple person. I seriously don't mind the iPhone, I just don't get what it does that is so special)

1. The iPhone is a better designed phone physically. The Droid has a keyboard and is very box looking both of which are bad, even the tv commercials say the droid is not meant to look good.

2. Apps are better right now, but android is quickly catching up, so that is not really an advantage for long. Apple rarely has any new decent apps in the app store because there are so many now. And people criticize Apple's control of the app store but there is an advantage, when you get an app, it works! I have already had several apps from the market that never work as expected or just simply crash.

3. If an iPhone is jailbroken (which mine was) there is far more customization available than currently what is on droid, but I think that will soon change due to the openness of android.

4. Available accessories, but this is only because the first android phone worth considering in comparison to the iPhone was the Droid, accessories will catch up so again this is not an apple advantage for long.

5. Browser, media player, multi touch, all advantage to Apple.

But I have made the switch to Droid for one big reason: VERIZON. The Droid has some advantages over iPhone which is why I am happy with my Droid. These are mainly the google apps (maps with navigation, voice, goggles, etc), widgets are ok but I could easily love a phone with out them. But the question was about what the iPhone has that Droid doesn't. If apple ever finds a way to stop jailbreaking I won't even consider another iPhone, but until then there is always something better coming soon and I keep an open mind and recognize they both have advantages.
 
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I am just curious, for the people that said yes, what does the iPhone do that the Droid doesn't?

I think the iPhone is a fine device, but it seems like Android + Droid offers so much more.

Is it just because Apple has 300,000 apps? I mean, other than that, I do not know of one significant feature the iPhone has over the Droid.

(I am not trying to be a closed-minded, anti-apple person. I seriously don't mind the iPhone, I just don't get what it does that is so special)

If you use your iPhone as a PHONE it is a non-starter. Terrible network, mediocre cellphone.

Droids are men, iPhones are ladies.:D
 
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As an iPod touch user plus who owns a Droid (and came from a Blackberry), I would have considered nothing else is an iPhone was available or going to be available sometime in 2010. However with nothing but rumors, I wanted/needed a new phone.

I really wanted to want a Storm2 but the "click" screen was not for me. I was already enjoy a capacitive input on the iPod touch and couldn't deak with the click.

So I waited for the Droid. I like it but I also like the clean and simple interface of the iPod touch/iPhone. However the ability to multitask on the Droid is becoming a must for me.

Nothing sucks more on the iPod touch that enjoying Pandora and having to jump over and check my Exchange email and losing the music stream. I think some multitasking capabilities need to come to the iPod touch/iPhone.

I will say I don't need a physical keyboard on the Droid. I have not used it more than a handful of times.

So to answer the question, I guess it depends on where the phones are at in a couple of years...
 
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If there doesn't emerge a media player in the Android market that competes with the extremely intuitive and robust iTunes, then I would consider making the switch. But the iPhone's disappointing battery life and closed market would still be a strong deterrent. My minor quibble about the Droid -- a problem the iPhone doesn't have -- is that it is a lover of dust. I would've much preferred a full-touch design with a superior virtual keyboard.
 
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I'll go with whatever company makes what I need when I need it. I am not brand loyal. I suspect that if and when Iphone comes to VZW it will not be as we know it to be now. Apple will most likely build something that is solely a VZW product. VZW doesn't want to copy AT&T, they want to rule over AT&T.

I strongly disagree. That not like apple to release two flavours of a phone. They like to keep thiings simple and if anything they will release an iphone in one variant that supports both GSM/UMTS AND CDMA2000 its possible qualcomm just made a new chip and its been done on blackberrys for years. Maybe HTC can suck every carriers dick and make them a new phone fitting there needs in an even uglier style each time *cough here/eris* but apple doesn't caitor to carriers ,carriers caitor to apple and if they want the iphone they have to get on there knees and beg for it. (Side note no hate to HTC I love them but they destroy the hero every time I see it on a new carrier and it makes me mad.)
 
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I predict that the iPhone will jump to a new carrier (maybe not exclusive) and there will be 1 more popular iteration of the device. At this point mainstream will realize that Apples mobile innovation ended on February 5, 2008 when they updated the first generation iPhone to 16GB. They will also realize that the innovation was only superficial. Apple will continue to make devices but sales will drop substantially.

I personally consider the iPhone as important device and a turning point in the way we interact with mobile devices. It's important because it bridge the gap between smart phones and dumb phones, attracted mainstream attention to the smart phones forcing other manufactures to finally start updating their user experience. However I like many other smart phone users realized early on that we would be taking a step backwards with iPhones in terms of functionality.

May you rest in peace iPhone!
 
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Well, not so sure it will be that soon. The Iphone for verizon would have to be a complete redesign for CDMA. Just not sure they will do it. But, I can see them doing it when verizon rolls out their 4g/lte network in late 2010 since 4G LTE will be common across many carriers in the near future.

I wouldn't be so sure that they don't have the design for CDMA. Remember that Apple went to Verizon first before they got rejected and then landed with AT&T. Also, the iPhone has come out in Korea which uses CDMA. And considering how there are so many rumors that the iPhone will come out for Verizon next year, I'm sure that they've already made the CDMA iPhone long ago and have had it in testing since.
 
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I wouldn't be so sure that they don't have the design for CDMA. Remember that Apple went to Verizon first before they got rejected and then landed with AT&T. Also, the iPhone has come out in Korea which uses CDMA. And considering how there are so many rumors that the iPhone will come out for Verizon next year, I'm sure that they've already made the CDMA iPhone long ago and have had it in testing since.

Korea uses WCDMA and CDMA2000, the iphone in korea is exactly the same as the iPhone in the US only it is all on a "3G" network based of WCDMA (UMTS). Two different technologys you don't want to mix up. That would make no sense as people would be buying these "special iphones" from korea and quite easily hacking them on verizon but that has never been the case. CDMA is an air interface used in UMTS (WCDMA, HSDPA, HSUPA,HSPA+, HSPA, w/e) and CDMA2000 (1xEVDO, 1xRTT, EVDO, w/e)systems.

I predict that the iPhone will jump to a new carrier (maybe not exclusive) and there will be 1 more popular iteration of the device. At this point mainstream will realize that Apples mobile innovation ended on February 5, 2008 when they updated the first generation iPhone to 16GB. They will also realize that the innovation was only superficial. Apple will continue to make devices but sales will drop substantially.

I personally consider the iPhone as important device and a turning point in the way we interact with mobile devices. It's important because it bridge the gap between smart phones and dumb phones, attracted mainstream attention to the smart phones forcing other manufactures to finally start updating their user experience. However I like many other smart phone users realized early on that we would be taking a step backwards with iPhones in terms of functionality.

May you rest in peace iPhone!
The iPhone isnt going to "jump" to a new carrier its going to remain on AT&T but not be exclusive and most likely move to T-Mobile. Phones don't disapear from carriers that fast no matter how shitty they are I can tell you that right now. Apple makes WAY too much money from AT&T + the iPhone.
 
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I would! If the iPhone got a better screen (better than the droid's), gets better battery life (better than the already good battery life of the droid), gets a faster processor than the droid, gets the ability to multi-task, and gets the ability to customize without jailbreak, gets ability to sync with my g-mail account. Then sure I'd switch in a second but... I don't think it'll happen, so in short no...

Hmmm... A few problems with that statement. First of all, the iPhone already has a better battery life. It has a faster processor (550mHz vs. 600mHz), and it can sync with Gmail. Has so from the beginning.

Multitasking, who needs it? You can't physically do two things at once. Yes it is nice to be able to minimize an app to check something online, but most apps just resume where they were closed. Screens are both beautiful, but I will admit, the Droids screen is better, far better.

Customization is needed, widgets on the main screen of the iPhone would be great. And I think Apple knows that. So I would guess iPhone OS 4.0. Macs have Widgets, why not the iPhone?

As for me, absolutely I will switch to the iPhone. I love my Droid, but I love my iPod touch more just because of ease of use and the straight forwardness of it. Because everything is by Apple, everything works together. The Droid is a great phone, but so is the iPhone. (Now if we were talking Mac vs PC... PC FTW!).
 
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No... TO me the Droid is the better competitor. It may not be as refined as the Iphone yet, but it will get there. The Biggest Difference between the two to me is the open source nature of the Android platform. Google is the good guy, open and available to anyone.

Frankly, I think it will never get to the same refinement just because of what you said. It IS open source. As long as things are open source every manufacturer/carrier will have their own iteration of it, making the interfaces not as polished. However, if everyone used the Google standard (Google Experience I think??), maybe it could be come more polished. Think of it this way, jailbroken iPhones aren't polished because there are a million different things you can do with it.

Who puts features on a phone like WIFI and then locks it so you cant use it?? Thats just ridiculous to me.

What are you talking about? The iPhone has always had WiFi on it, and it has never been locked.

Just my two cents.
 
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