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Anyone else getting fed up?

And the thing is he's asked and gotten responses but he just keeps on and on. Why should I this and why should I that? Shezzzzzzzz Reminds me of my wife you thinks everything in the world should work the way she imagines it should. :mad: Why doesn't the refrigerator give milk? Cows can do it why should I have to go to the store for milk LOL Yes at times she is like that. :eek:

I'm also sure that not every app on the iphones works how he thinks they should if they did they wouldn't need and app store. I'd like to see him write an email client that everyone in the world likes. If you don't like the one you have you go get a different one you don't demand that the one you have should work the way you think it should. It's impossible to please everyone....So you either adapt or find something else you like you don't whine about it forever. GRRRRR

BTW Bot was there a hidden message in there some place? :p Bots-suck

Oh well I'm out of here and headed to the big things happening thread it looks like some good news is on the way and an update or two.

OP I'm sorry for yelling at you I'm just feel cranky today;)

Maybe...:D

And to the OP before I leave to my home forum...Piiman is always cranky:D
 
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I honestly think that you're reaching beyond your knowledge trying to find flaws in android. I'm not married to Android or anything, it just serves me best at the moment. This has nothing to do with google - this has everything to do with individual users. Android's open nature lends it to being more susceptible to the sorts of slowdown-over-time that Windows experiences, and it's just a tradeoff that you have to take. You -do- need to be more proactive in managing lousy apps on your phone, you probably SHOULD run a task killer to manually manage memory, and for some people that just plain sucks. Loading down your phone with crap, installing lots of apps from the app store, and not keeping your phone maintained WILL slow it down. Google prefers a much more hands-off approach to app deployment which means that they're not going to certify that the background service that handles RSS feeds in your news app isn't gobbling unnecessary memory. Apple rigorously tests this stuff and will reject that sort of app. The downside of course is that apple also rejects lots of other great stuff, as well. Google leaves the market open, and in a way you pay for that ability to install whatever you please, one of the side effects being odd slowdowns and runaway processes.

To look at a large group of devices that all can run any software the user feels like throwing on them, notice that they all behave differently after a month of use, and say that's an inherent flaw of the OS is about as crazy as looking at two PCs, one loaded down with malware and fifty thousand IE toolbars and one fresh out of the box and say that the difference in performance is due to poor OS design on Microsoft's part.

I'm not saying there's not flaws in android, but you can't take google to task for PEBCAK issues.

Good post except for this

"you probably SHOULD run a task killer to manually manage memory, and for some people that just plain sucks. "

NO YOU DO NOT NEED TO MANAGE YOUR MEMORY AND DO NOT USE A TASK KILLER!! Matter of fact Google removed the api to kill task in 2.2 because people are screwing up the normal operation of the phone by using them.

That's all folks now move along. :D
 
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The Gameloft games aren't on the market. You have to get them from the Gameloft site. And yes you can benefit from researching to solve your problems. I don't see the problem with that. Are solutions supposed to magically appear for you? NO! Thats why we have these great communities like Android Forums. Sometimes all you have to do is ask(not rant), and your problems are solved. Good luck, but it sounds like you just want an iphone.

You do make valid points about the market but you can't expect it to be as good as apples app store yet. But it'll continue to get better over time.

I agree with you. The problem isn't that there aren't any workarounds for Android, its that the OP is teetering between iOS experience and Android. Like others have said, iphones are for iphone people due to their media centric abilities and app store, and then there's Android.

No offense to the OP, but it sounds like you want the accessibility and friendly UI / OS of Apple and are trying to justify why it doesn't exist on Android. More research, less whining.

Bottom line is that because of Android's nature I can do 100 times more than I can do with an iPhone, even when unrooted. To a degree, you can't rush a platform to "be" like another one. There are reasons differences between the two exist, and each will borrow from the other as necessary but not everything will be seamlessly ported to other OS's - for legal reasons if nothing else.

Another thing you need to firmly grasp is that Android has come further along than any OS in mobile history in short order.

To say that Android is not advancing is foolish. Don't get me wrong, I agree the marketplace needs work and there are some bugs that need immediate attention from Android, but by and large Google has a whole lot more on their plate than Apple has ever had.

A quick review of fragmentation also debunks the myth that there are no Android games. Fragmentation exists partly on Google's lack of aforethought to reign in hardware specs that equate to the Android Experience, and as such the quantity of quality games suffer. This relates to the many options phone wise, that we have with Android.

The same exists between different Windows machines and even Mac; not all games are playable with the best experience on all machines.

Developers have an overwhelming number of hurdles - some in place by Google, some hardware dependent, so it is no surprise that the latest and greatest games don't make it to Android immediately and for every phone.

I agree though that big names such as Netflix, Skype, and Facebook need to get it together with their app development though but I know for a fact the same developer hurdles that plague small companies also plague Fortune 500 companies when it comes to Android. That's just the way it is right now, so you are right in hoping that Gingerbread alleviates this a bit.

There's a method to my mayhem and it's not to start a war, just show that there are two sides to every coin. And multiple sides to Android. iOS is just iOS. You get Apple's way and that's it. Even for the average user this is starting to become sickening - even after you consider your Proxy benefits.
 
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Android is like a tuned out racecar. You have to tinker with it to get it's best performance, but when it's set up right, nothing can touch it. IOS is like a Honda Accord. It just does such a great job at taking the kids to the soccer game and fetching groceries, but it's not so much fun to drive around on the weekends. It all depends on what you want out of your phone. I drive a moderately modified Honda S2000, which is a labor of love, so I obviously don't want a "It just works" phone experience.

OP, get whatever makes you happy. Life is to short for compromise. Go to ebay, find the cheapest dumb phone you can buy for Verizon. Set up a second line on your VZW account with the lowest available plan. Go to ATT and get iPhone. Sell your DX. Port your DX number to ATT. Use proceeds from DX to pay for your remaining VZW contract with dumb phone. There is always a way, AND please stop whining.
 
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Jesus, I can't believe I continued to read through the entire first page after seeing each and every post by jamo being some sort of direct or indirect whine about Android. I really didn't care to read the second page. Seriously, jamo, you sound like you need the iPhone and everything handed to you in a very simplistic package where you don't need to worry about alternatives. Your research in the product (both through reading documentation and playing with the hardware) honestly had to be lackluster to nonexistent.

Has Apple done better with providing a good out-of-the-box experience for its user that manufacturers for Android phones are hindering? Sure. But, what you see is what you get with the iPhone. The Android platform let's you CONTROL your phone. Don't like the launcher? Replace it. Don't like your current theme? Change it. Don't want different background services? Stop and remove them. With how harmless and painless rooting your phone is (not what you do after you've rooted, but just rooting the phone itself), it's almost pointless to say "you shouldn't need to root your phone to do x and y." It's simply a plus point to the Android OS vs. iOS.. more freedom with your phone. Happen to screw something up with your phone? Jump on the forums for help, or with most cases just flash the SBF.

In short, I think the Android OS is for the more techy and intuitive crowd, if you're interested in more than just making calls from your phone, while the iOS is for the trendy and more simplistic crowd. Since you seem to need everything handed to you w/o a little basic research, the iOS best fits your simplicity.
 
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