What features do you want on the Evo 2?

sweet, anyone else notice that the microSD card seems to be removable without removing the battery. http://www.androidcentral.com/sites...84/2011/03/HTC-EVO-3D/sprint-htc-evo-3d-5.JPG

bendispo said:

I have serious doubts about BlueScreen's credibility.

For those of you interested, the EVO 3D page on HTC's site is now live. Here's the link to the specs page:

HTC - Products - HTC EVO 3D ? Specification

Looking at the webpage, another thing that BlueScreen's gotten wrong on the hardware front is the amount of ROM. It's listed as 1GB, not the 4GB, triple-channel ridiculousness to which he's attested.

So, perhaps rather than just highlighting in red the facts that he's seemed to have gotten correct, we might also choose a color (too bad red's already taken) to mark off the facts that he's blatantly missed:

I can start a list:

1. 1GB ROM (Not 4GB)
2. No kickstand
3. No LTE support
4. 1.3 mp front camera (Not 3 mp)
5. No Carl Zeiss camera lens

A lot of other postings look suspicious too, but perhaps this is a good start

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the usb port now has HDMI out included. at least that's what i heard from one of the hands on video. so it's a one port does it all type thing... hmm..

Not bashing, but BlueScreen most have been teasing us. He basically said the phone would have everthing we could imagine and we bought his words, hook, line and sinker. In retrospect, the phone he dreamed up might be the Evo 6 or something...

I was really hoping for NFC, a kickstand and some of the camera tricks, but oh well.

here compilation of links

Hands-on with the Sprint HTC EVO 3D; Update: Video! | Android Central
HTC EVO 3D first hands-on! (video) -- Engadget
Sprint Officially Announces HTC EVO 3D
HTC Evo 3D Hands-on [Slashgear] | Android Community
Sprint Unveils the HTC EVO 3D and the HTC EVO View | Android Phone Fans

hlub69 said:

No kickstand built in but there will be a kickstand case.

Hands-on with the Sprint HTC EVO 3D; Update: Video! | Android Central

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ugh. the more I look at it, the more I think this thing is ugly as sin. fatter, protruding bezel...longer frame to fit the same size screen...forced to buy special case for kickstand...

The insides might be great, but I don't think I'll want to look at this thing whenever I use my phone. as it stands now, it certainly doesn't look like it's worth jumping on before the 22 month upgrade

To assume there is no NFC might be premature. Has anyone actually gotten confirmation that says there is no NFC, or just there hasn't been any mention that there is NFC. NFC seems like a strange omission given that this is a 2.3 shipping device. I'd bet it does have NFC, but wasn't mentioned today given the very high level specs and info given at the announcement. They didn't get technical at all!

bendispo said:

I have serious doubts about BlueScreen's credibility.

For those of you interested, the EVO 3D page on HTC's site is now live. Here's the link to the specs page:

HTC - Products - HTC EVO 3D - Specification

Looking at the webpage, another thing that BlueScreen's gotten wrong on the hardware front is the amount of ROM. It's listed as 1GB, not the 4GB, triple-channel ridiculousness to which he's attested.

So, perhaps rather than just highlighting in red the facts that he's seemed to have gotten correct, we might also choose a color (too bad red's already taken) to mark off the facts that he's blatantly missed:

I can start a list:

1. 1GB ROM (Not 4GB)
2. No kickstand
3. No LTE support
4. 1.3 mp front camera (Not 3 mp)
5. Maximum 5 mp 2D photo capture (Not the 10 mp stitching/combining)
6. No Carl Zeiss camera lens

A lot of other postings look suspicious too, but perhaps this is a good start

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I can deal with the stuff thats software related, its the big misses on the hardware side that throws me off big time. They wouldn't have him still working on a prototype with 4GB memory if they were only going to release it with much less. BTW that was one of the mbiggest let downs for me the kick stand and lack of memory.

maybe hes testing the EVO 2? lol

bendispo said:

I have serious doubts about BlueScreen's credibility.

For those of you interested, the EVO 3D page on HTC's site is now live. Here's the link to the specs page:

HTC - Products - HTC EVO 3D - Specification

Looking at the webpage, another thing that BlueScreen's gotten wrong on the hardware front is the amount of ROM. It's listed as 1GB, not the 4GB, triple-channel ridiculousness to which he's attested.

So, perhaps rather than just highlighting in red the facts that he's seemed to have gotten correct, we might also choose a color (too bad red's already taken) to mark off the facts that he's blatantly missed:

I can start a list:

1. 1GB ROM (Not 4GB)
2. No kickstand
3. No LTE support
4. 1.3 mp front camera (Not 3 mp)
5. Maximum 5 mp 2D photo capture (Not the 10 mp stitching/combining)
6. No Carl Zeiss camera lens

A lot of other postings look suspicious too, but perhaps this is a good start

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I'm going from the standpoint that we don't know he is wrong until we have the phone in hand. Read my whole post again since you must have gotten this confused. It's not about the, what did he get wrong. Just because specs are up on a website doesn't mean they won't change. Reread the first quote and then EarlyMon's

bendispo said:

I have serious doubts about BlueScreen's credibility.

For those of you interested, the EVO 3D page on HTC's site is now live. Here's the link to the specs page:

HTC - Products - HTC EVO 3D - Specification

Looking at the webpage, another thing that BlueScreen's gotten wrong on the hardware front is the amount of ROM. It's listed as 1GB, not the 4GB, triple-channel ridiculousness to which he's attested.

So, perhaps rather than just highlighting in red the facts that he's seemed to have gotten correct, we might also choose a color (too bad red's already taken) to mark off the facts that he's blatantly missed:

I can start a list:

1. 1GB ROM (Not 4GB)
2. No kickstand
3. No LTE support
4. 1.3 mp front camera (Not 3 mp)
5. Maximum 5 mp 2D photo capture (Not the 10 mp stitching/combining)
6. No Carl Zeiss camera lens

A lot of other postings look suspicious too, but perhaps this is a good start

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If I recall he stated they attempted to get Carl Zeiss lens. Not thay it'd matter much considering HTCs mediocre record for mobile cameras.

As for the Blue guy, far as defence goes he could easily be involved in software(Aka he doesn't do the manufacturing of the device and isn't involved with it.) and with that scheme can have pre-production hardware OR even the hardware HTC crafted in the first place. Remember HTC makes the phone and shows it to the carrier and they outline specs changes/removes/additions along with the hardwares look itself.

It is however looking bad.

If I recall the mans taken a flight to CTIa and said he'd give a shout out to these forums on stage. True or nay?

As for Evo 3D, finding it lackluster. Truth be told so was The OG Evo. Just an android Wimax flavor of the HTC HD 2. The real surprise was Speint had the balls to get an actual premium phone, and an Android phone nonetheless. Plus it didn't look ugly as Sprints made so many other HTC handsets by robbing them of the base aesthetics HTC laid down.

One of my disappointments that not everyone's noticed is that apparently while the screen is 4.3 inches as the evo its not as wide. So -shorter- screen in a different but valid sense.

jdsingle said:

I'm going from the standpoint that we don't know he is wrong until we have the phone in hand. Read my whole post again since you must have gotten this confused. It's not about the, what did he get wrong. Just because specs are up on a website doesn't mean they won't change. Reread the first quote and then EarlyMon's

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When is the last time you recall a phone having its specs released to the public on the companys site and then them changing? Im talking specifically hardware stuff like size of ROM or camera MP's and stuff like that. not software stuff like netflix or NFC which might be on there just not enabled. though that wouldn't make much sense at all. if it was in it then one would think they would of said that.(NFC that is)

Replying two words on screen dimensions: aspect ratio.

jdsingle said:

I'm going from the standpoint that we don't know he is wrong until we have the phone in hand. Read my whole post again since you must have gotten this confused. It's not about the, what did he get wrong. Just because specs are up on a website doesn't mean they won't change. Reread the first quote and then EarlyMon's

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I'm just saying that at this point, it's fairly useless to use BSOD's info. Anything that's been posted online by credible sources or on the mfg's website is just as, if not more reliable, than what he's posted. I just think it's a waste of time to continue speculating from his info.

And... not to be contentious, but some of his posts border on the ludicrous (for example his statements about the RAM/ROM setup and the camera megapixel stitching). In terms of RAM/ROM, they're two fundamentally different memory tech's, and it's [almost] impossible to mix the two functionally as BSOD has suggested. RAM is fundamentally volatile (requires a charge to store information), which means that it requires an electric charge. It's much faster than ROM, which is non-volatile and thus useful for storage. Running RAM and ROM together in "triple channel" is ridiculous, since not only are they two different technologies, one is much faster than the other. At the very least, there'd be extreme timing issues, and besides, it's almost functionally useless given how slow ROM is. This setup also begs the question of what would happen if you used up the ROM space as you're supposed to by storing personal and program files on it. Is the hardware/software going to just dynamically resize the RAM/ROM setup? Of course, you could use the ROM as swap space and caching, which many devices and PC's do, but that's absolutely different than running "triple channel" memory. In terms of the camera, you're not going to get double the pixels from stitching together 2 shots taken stereoscopically. There's not way to correct for parallax to yield more detail. Even if one were to combine two identical shots taken from the same absolute position, which the EVO 3D can't do, the combined photo would still not yield any more detail than one photo (though you could get improvements in dynamic range and low-light noise).

And check out his signature from one of the posts:

"VP of one company/Chairman of another company/Fellow of IEEE/Phd. Mathematics /Phd. Computer Science /Phd. Plasma Physics /US Naval Pilot (5 Tours in Afghanistan and Iraq)"

I'm in a Ph.D. program at the moment, and I have no idea how a single person would have the time to complete three separate doctoral programs in decently divergent fields... as well as serve 5 tours as a naval pilot. Do you know how many years of intense work a typical doctoral program requires? How grueling military pilot training is? ... and then somehow to rise in ranks to become a VP of a company... all while fighting in two wars over the last decade?

hlub69 said:

No kickstand built in but there will be a kickstand case.

Hands-on with the Sprint HTC EVO 3D; Update: Video! | Android Central

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Maybe I'm in the minority, but I hated having a case on my EVO and I tried a lot of different cases. All of them made the phone too bulky for my tastes. Now the EVO isn't any different than the cases they make for the iPhone (and other phones) w/ a kickstand. blah.

jackgibbs said:

ugh. the more I look at it, the more I think this thing is ugly as sin. fatter, protruding bezel...longer frame to fit the same size screen...forced to buy special case for kickstand...

The insides might be great, but I don't think I'll want to look at this thing whenever I use my phone. as it stands now, it certainly doesn't look like it's worth jumping on before the 22 month upgrade

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It does look very fat.

But the people over at Endgadget say its exactly the same as the original EVO and it feels the same in weight,

Maybe just the way it looks on camera.

Didn't BlueScreen say that he'd "salute" androidforums from the stage? Did that happen?

If I'd been there I probably would have thrown a tomato. hahahah

Not trying to personally attack the guy, but didn't he say the batteries and the back cover would be red too? It could just be the prototype at the show that did so, but it's all black.

Maybe BlueScreen is Jackson's alternate account?

I kid, I kid.

EarlyMon said:

Replying two words on screen dimensions: aspect ratio.

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how much of a difference will this (seemingly small) stretching make? 16:9 looks fairly good on the evo, doesn't it? I don't really know about this stuff

Sgt. Slaughter said:

When is the last time you recall a phone having its specs released to the public on the companys site and then them changing? Im talking specifically hardware stuff like size of ROM or camera MP's and stuff like that. not software stuff like netflix or NFC which might be on there just not enabled. though that wouldn't make much sense at all. if it was in it then one would think they would of said that.(NFC that is)

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Never followed phone releases till this one I've seen it happen numerous times with motorcycles though. If I was Sprint, I would underplay the power of this item and on release day give better than expected. No advertising is worth more than word of mouth. They'll need to fight for market share especially with a new iPhone release coming out around the same time this would. That's just a B school student's opinion.

bendispo said:

I'm just saying that at this point, it's fairly useless to use BSOD's info. Anything that's been posted online by credible sources or on the mfg's website is just as, if not more reliable, than what he's posted. I just think it's a waste of time to continue speculating from his info.

And... not to be contentious, but some of his posts border on the ludicrous (for example his statements about the RAM/ROM setup and the camera megapixel stitching). In terms of RAM/ROM, they're two fundamentally different memory tech's, and it's [almost] impossible to mix the two functionally as BSOD has suggested. RAM is fundamentally volatile (requires a charge to store information), which means that it requires an electric charge. It's much faster than ROM, which is non-volatile and thus useful for storage. Running RAM and ROM together in "triple channel" is ridiculous, since not only are they two different technologies, one is much faster than the other. At the very least, there'd be extreme timing issues, and besides, it's almost functionally useless given how slow ROM is. This setup also begs the question of what would happen if you used up the ROM space as you're supposed to by storing personal and program files on it. Is the hardware/software going to just dynamically resize the RAM/ROM setup? Of course, you could use the ROM as swap space and caching, which many devices and PC's do, but that's absolutely different than running "triple channel" memory. In terms of the camera, you're not going to get double the pixels from stitching together 2 shots taken stereoscopically. There's not way to correct for parallax to yield more detail. Even if one were to combine two identical shots taken from the same absolute position, which the EVO 3D can't do, the combined photo would still not yield any more detail than one photo (though you could get improvements in dynamic range and low-light noise).

And check out his signature from one of the posts:

"VP of one company/Chairman of another company/Fellow of IEEE/Phd. Mathematics /Phd. Computer Science /Phd. Plasma Physics /US Naval Pilot (5 Tours in Afghanistan and Iraq)"

I'm in a PhD. program at the moment, and I have no idea how a single person would have the time to complete three separate doctoral programs in decently divergent fields... as well as serve 5 tours as a naval pilot. Do you know how many years a typical doctoral program takes? How grueling military pilot training is? ... and then somehow to rise in ranks to become a VP of a company... all while fighting in two wars over the last decade?

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I'm not discounting the unlikeliness of anything he said. I'm basing my assumptions off of the credibility given to him by other members of the forum.

Like many of you, I'm also finding the EVO 3D rather bleh.

I really appreciate the higher resolution screen and the dual core processor, but everything else is a letdown.

The form factor, hasn't improved, which is a shame, because smartphones have tended to slim down over the past year. And, I just think the phone is hideous from the back. I think the current EVO, which I own, is much better looking.

I also think that 3D, in any current incarnation, is rather gimmicky. Of course, others might feel very differently, but I'd much rather have a thinner, lighter phone body with a brighter screen with better viewing angles.

jackgibbs said:

how much of a difference will this (seemingly small) stretching make? 16:9 looks fairly good on the evo, doesn't it? I don't really know about this stuff

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The differences will be slight, but noticeable, imo, when not needing to change HD content-scaling from established norms - translation, few negative video artifacts.

Love my Evo, but qHD is HD friendly by design.

Evo was SD/ED friendly by design.

spridell said:

It does look very fat.

But the people over at Endgadget say its exactly the same as the original EVO and it feels the same in weight,

Maybe just the way it looks on camera.

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sorry, I meant the bezel itself is (looks) fatter. The area around the screen on the front of the phone. It looks like it already has a case on it, whereas the evo 4g's screenruns flush all the way to the edges. it's a much cleaner, sleeker look

jackgibbs said:

sorry, I meant the bezel itself is (looks) fatter. The area around the screen on the front of the phone. It looks like it already has a case on it, whereas the evo 4g's screenruns flush all the way to the edges. it's a much cleaner, sleeker look

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yes agreed. Does look like it has a case on it already.

bendispo said:

"VP of one company/Chairman of another company/Fellow of IEEE/Phd. Mathematics /Phd. Computer Science /Phd. Plasma Physics /US Naval Pilot (5 Tours in Afghanistan and Iraq)"

I'm in a Ph.D. program at the moment, and I have no idea how a single person would have the time to complete three separate doctoral programs in decently divergent fields... as well as serve 5 tours as a naval pilot. Do you know how many years of intense work a typical doctoral program requires? How grueling military pilot training is? ... and then somehow to rise in ranks to become a VP of a company... all while fighting in two wars over the last decade?

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He is [Thunder rumbling in the background] the most interesting man in the world!

"I don't always post online, but when I do, I prefer androidforums."

Big downfalls of the Evo 3D that I see so far
1- No kickstand. (Gotta buy a separate case? sucks, but ok)

2- The biggest problem with the Evo 1 - the protruding nipple-lens - not only still exists, but it is bigger this time around (with one giant piece of glass/plastic)! I won't make it 2 weeks before that damn thing cracks!

3- The micro-USB port is in the wrong place! Sure, there's no kickstand anymore, but if you get a case wit the kickstand, you won't be able to plug in the phone as an upright alarmclock (unless you buy a dock/charger).

4) I'm hoping that the interior is still red... I liked that.

I haven't really read anything about the screen quality, aside from the 3D effect and the higher resolution, is the screen itself better quality than the EVO's? Does it reproduce colors or contrast similar to Super LCD, or at the least, better than the cheap TFT LCD screen the original EVO has?

The screen on the EVO was one of the more disappointing things about the phone to me.