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Are the Battery issues really that bad on the TBolt?

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#52
I am not new to Android, have had one for over a year, rooted and unrooted, I have always had my emails pushed every hour with no issue. Am I a CEO? No. But it's worked fine on every other Android device.

I have uninstalled Tango.

Under battery statistics I have: (top 5)
1. Android System @ 38%
2. Standby @ 14%
3. Phone Idle @ 13%
4. Engadget 13% (I have removed this widget)
5. Display @ 12% (which is usually the highest)

I am connected to LTE as well, I don't have the best signal, but I still have 90% of the time received and made calls successfully and accessed the internet on my phone.

I changed my Facebook to never updated, since I can just update it when I go to read it.

Thanks, ill see how it works. Just got it back to 100% charged...round 2.
 
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#53
mattbirk said:
I am not new to Android, have had one for over a year, rooted and unrooted, I have always had my emails pushed every hour with no issue. Am I a CEO? No. But it's worked fine on every other Android device.

I have uninstalled Tango.

Under battery statistics I have: (top 5)
1. Android System @ 38%
2. Standby @ 14%
3. Phone Idle @ 13%
4. Engadget 13% (I have removed this widget)
5. Display @ 12% (which is usually the highest)

I am connected to LTE as well, I don't have the best signal, but I still have 90% of the time received and made calls successfully and accessed the internet on my phone.

I changed my Facebook to never updated, since I can just update it when I go to read it.

Thanks, ill see how it works. Just got it back to 100% charged...round 2.
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ding ding ding....Round one Goes to the small TB battery! Lets see who comes out on top in Round 2! A little humor cant hurt.
 
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#54
The same thing happened to me the other day. I went from nearly a full battery to 15% in 3 hours with almost no use. Funny thing is the next day and from that point on ive gotten way better battery life out of this phone. i used to get 8 hours of use max but now i can go a full day without charging no problem. My guess and this is only a guess is that verizon might have done some software update to improve battery life and that might have caused it to drain the battery so fast that one day.
 
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#56
MustangChris04 said:
Checking for email once an hour is not going to effect your battery very significant. Most people need to check their email more than once a day unless they don't have much going on in life or use other means to communicate. Most CEO's check have their email pushed or checked VERY frequent. I should know, I live with one. I receive about a hundred emails a day that need a response and I have it check every 10 minutes. It's not the email checking that's killing my battery, its the display (according to the battery usage meter)

To the OP, you probably had an application that was stuck. I've had it happen a couple times where I went to the google homepage and it tried to find my location, then I exited the browser and it continued to try and find my location. I went from 80% to 40% in an hour because of this, and I noticed what happened because my pocket started to get hot!

Try and make sure you don't have any programs continuously trying to either download data or use location services.
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So you stayed at a Holiday Inn Express and you live with a CEO so you know how data works with Android.....please.

A. Sending and receiving any data drains the battery. Especially if the mail app is trying to connect to a 3G or LTE signal. CDMA phones constantly seek out the best network signal for talk and data thereby using up more juice on the phone.

B. If you think the display eats more battery than sending/receiving data that is your opinion but a false one. Your opinion doesn't account for flash which is a known battery hog.
 
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#57
Slick1020 said:
So you stayed at a Holiday Inn Express and you live with a CEO so you know how data works with Android.....please.

A. Sending and receiving any data drains the battery. Especially if the mail app is trying to connect to a 3G or LTE signal. CDMA phones constantly seek out the best network signal for talk and data thereby using up more juice on the phone.

B. If you think the display eats more battery than sending/receiving data that is your opinion but a false one. Your opinion doesn't account for flash which is a known battery hog.
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It's apparent that there is no reason for yourself to own a smart phone especially when you think that once a day to check email is sufficient. There's a reason why we own these types of phones, and it isn't just to make calls.

Someone here, or perhaps from another forum ran a test of 3 email accounts to check for mail every 10 minutes and after 6 hours of use the battery only drained 10%.

That's the equivalent of leaving the screen on for 15 minutes on medium brightness.

You can't contest that the display is the biggest usage of battery resource.
 
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#59
mattbirk said:
I am not new to Android, have had one for over a year, rooted and unrooted, I have always had my emails pushed every hour with no issue. Am I a CEO? No. But it's worked fine on every other Android device.

I have uninstalled Tango.

Under battery statistics I have: (top 5)
1. Android System @ 38%
2. Standby @ 14%
3. Phone Idle @ 13%
4. Engadget 13% (I have removed this widget)
5. Display @ 12% (which is usually the highest)

I am connected to LTE as well, I don't have the best signal, but I still have 90% of the time received and made calls successfully and accessed the internet on my phone.

I changed my Facebook to never updated, since I can just update it when I go to read it.

Thanks, ill see how it works. Just got it back to 100% charged...round 2.
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You can walk around with GPS on all day long as long as an app doesn't need to connect to the GPS and drain your battery. Behind the GPS, LTE and WiMax are second in line for battery drain. Apps turn into girls gone wild when you let them do their own thing over 4G. If you have WiFi at work I would connect to that rather than 4G.
 
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#60
Slick1020 said:
You can walk around with GPS on all day long as long as an app doesn't need to connect to the GPS and drain your battery. Behind the GPS, LTE and WiMax are second in line for battery drain. Apps turn into girls gone wild when you let them do their own thing over 4G. If you have WiFi at work I would connect to that rather than 4G.
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If GGW... are they "flash" apps? :eek::)
 
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#61
MustangChris04 said:
It's apparent that there is no reason for yourself to own a smart phone especially when you think that once a day to check email is sufficient. There's a reason why we own these types of phones, and it isn't just to make calls.

Someone here, or perhaps from another forum ran a test of 3 email accounts to check for mail every 10 minutes and after 6 hours of use the battery only drained 10%.

That's the equivalent of leaving the screen on for 15 minutes on medium brightness.

You can't contest that the display is the biggest usage of battery resource.
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While people are in Afghanistan fighting for freedom and losing their lives everyday, you are stateside checking your email 30 times a day. If you are not in a position of power and you are checking your email that much, what are you contributing to the rest of the US? Email potatoes don't win wars. I've been to Iraq and Afghanistan and nobody checks their classified or unclassified email 30 times a day. And we are actually killing and capturing bad people.

Show us the scientific test where someone had their email download every 10 minutes. I hope the account was actually sending/receiving data. If its not then thats not a valid test.
 
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#62
Slick1020 said:
While people are in Afghanistan fighting for freedom and losing their lives everyday, you are stateside checking your email 30 times a day. If you are not in a position of power and you are checking your email that much, what are you contributing to the rest of the US? Email potatoes don't win wars. I've been to Iraq and Afghanistan and nobody checks their classified or unclassified email 30 times a day. And we are actually killing and capturing bad people.

Show us the scientific test where someone had their email download every 10 minutes. I hope the account was actually sending/receiving data. If its not then thats not a valid test.
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Now you are really starting to make no sense at all. I support our troops, but killing people in Iraq and Afghanistan is completely irrelevant to the battery life on the Thunderbolt.
 
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#63
Slick1020 said:
So you stayed at a Holiday Inn Express and you live with a CEO so you know how data works with Android.....please.

A. Sending and receiving any data drains the battery. Especially if the mail app is trying to connect to a 3G or LTE signal. CDMA phones constantly seek out the best network signal for talk and data thereby using up more juice on the phone.

B. If you think the display eats more battery than sending/receiving data that is your opinion but a false one. Your opinion doesn't account for flash which is a known battery hog.
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I've never seen someone more wrong in my entire life...

*EDIT* I just read your rant about the military and "What are you doing to benefit the US". You officially lost every ounce of credit you even had (Which was pretty damn close to none) with that useless arguement of yours.

Also, I have my email syncing every 10 minutes, I get a full days battery.
 
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#64
Back on topic... I too experienced significant battery drain today while not using the phone. Yesterday was fine... today it wasn't. The phone was also running hot.

I turned off the phone and plugged it in... waited for it to fully charge. It's running fine now, and actually cold.

I'm blaming one of the custom skins I downloaded from the other thread. The one I think was the culprit is AuraxTSense. I changed to that this morning and is pretty much the only thing I did differently today. I'll test that out again this weekend... but I've gone back to the default HTC skin for now.
 
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#65
mattbirk said:
I was at work today, and didn't look at my phone for about 2 hours, and I go to look at it and it's in the yellow and 23%!

I have brightness down real low (which wouldn't effect it being off)
Engadget widget on desktop
email settings to update every hour (just switched to 2 hours)
GPS enabled, WiFi disabled
small weather HTC widget

I just don't understand what could drain a phone from almost full to almost empty by doing nothing but sitting in my pocket.

there has to be something i did, cause my battery wasn't that quick to go dead.

I have Tango Video Calls installed, which I think is the only new app since I noticed this. just doesn't make sense to me.
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This happened to me yesterday and of course it was the one day I forgot a charger at work.

Anyway, in my case I looked at battery stats and android system had consumed nearly 60% of my battery while display only 20%. I was literally watching the green in my battery indicator disappear. I immediately went to the market and downloaded system panel lite and it showed that my cpu was pegged at 100% and android system was the reason.

Unfortunately I don't know what process in android system was to blame and to the best of my knowledge there isn't an app that will tell you. With other android phones I have had this happen maybe once or twice and a quick reboot solved the problem.

I did just that and once everything loaded my cpu was running mostly from 1-15%. I am keeping an eye on it but no problems since. I can't narrow down any one change I made yesterday....just chalking it up to an occasional android quirk.
 
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#66
CyberPitz said:
I've never seen someone more wrong in my entire life...

*EDIT* I just read your rant about the military and "What are you doing to benefit the US". You officially lost every ounce of credit you even had (Which was pretty damn close to none) with that useless arguement of yours.

Also, I have my email syncing every 10 minutes, I get a full days battery.
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Apparently your phone isn't sending/receiving data. No data = no drain. So nobody is sending you emails every 10 minutes and I'm going to bet your phone is connected to wifi when you have the phone set to every 10 mins of downloading nothing.

Since you missed the point. There are military members who have access to classified and unclassified email but do not check their accounts 30 times a day. This tells me they have more important things to do like go outside the wire compared to someone ranting about having to check their email 30 times a day. "I need to check my email, hold on do you want fries with that hapymeal?"...LOL
 
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#67
Slick1020 said:
Apparently your phone isn't sending/receiving data. No data = no drain. So nobody is sending you emails every 10 minutes.and I'm going to bet your phone is connectedto wifi when you have the phone set to every 10 mins of downloading nothing.

Since you missed the point. There are military member who have access to classified and unclassified email but do not check their accounts 30 times a day. This tells me hey have more important things to do like go outside the wire compared to someone ranting about having to check their email 30 times a day. "I need to check my email, hold on do you want fries with that hapymeal?"...LOL
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Without taking this too far off track, I get emails every 2 or 3 minutes. Am I important? No. Just because I'm not military doesn't mean that I have no reason to be checking emails. Get off your high horse. Because my job requires me to check my email many times a day, I'm obviously...what....a slob that sits at McDonalds all day? Your logic is useless and just plain spam. Try actually helping this guy with his issue, which he seemed to have fixed by changing themes anyway...not data related!

And no, I'm on 3G while syncing email. How does it feel to be wrong every step of the way?

@OP: let us know about that skin change you've done. I've been running a few of those skins on and off the last few days without issue, so it will help to know to stay away from the bad one!!
 
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#69
I think aftermarket skins have an effect on the battery life. I can only assume that poorly designed applications and themes could hinder the battery life, whereas Sense UI may be more optimized through the years of tweeking HTC has done. I'd like to see someones input on this issue...
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I don't think that the skins can actually effect the battery life at all. They are simply graphic changes, there is nothing at all effected at the level that the phone uses to work. Apps can effect battery life, however changing the graphic look of the phone (which is what the skins do) can not.
 
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#70
ska.t73 said:
I don't think that the skins can actually effect the battery life at all. They are simply graphic changes, there is nothing at all effected at the level that the phone uses to work. Apps can effect battery life, however changing the graphic look of the phone (which is what the skins do) can not.
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If you're talking about the different skins that come with the HTC Sense UI then I agree. But I have to believe that programs such as Open Home and SPB shell 3D would effect the battery. Especially SPB Shell since it is very graphic intense.
 
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#71
MustangChris04 said:
If you're talking about the different skins that come with the HTC Sense UI then I agree. But I have to believe that programs such as Open Home and SPB shell 3D would effect the battery. Especially SPB Shell since it is very graphic intense.
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Ah yes you are correct with thoughs, I thought you were talking about the skins that you can download from XDA for Sense (they are the same as the ones that came with Sense, just different options).

But yes stuff like Open Home and SPB shell 3D are apps and can in fact effect battery life.
 
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#74
Wow. I didn't think we'd need to defend why we need to check our email as often as we do. Interesting. There are lots of reasons outside of being a big CEO. I happened to be self-employed. I am the only "employee." However, I depend on getting my emails ASAP to get my work.

Some college students are in correspondence with their professors and are in need of that immediate communication. Heck, my bank and credit card companies send me notifications and I want them as they come in. I pay for the data, why can't I use it? Especially when it's not taking a toll on my battery. ;)
 
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