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If you use replacement apps, even more reason to root, and freeze all the system apps you no longer use. There is a list on XDA somewhere with stuff that you can safely freeze, but I just tested as I went along, and didn't have problems after freezing anything I froze.

Tbh, it's quite normal. To get the most out of an iPhone, you need to Jailbreak... to get the most out of my old Symbian phones I had to mod and hack a little. To get the most out of PSP's I had to hack.

It's fun if you have a little time, and fortunately everything seems to stay as it should with Android, and doesn't require much more fiddling when you have it how you want it.

Go ahead and do it. Use this guide... easy peasy. Make sure you close Kies before you hit start, or Odin won't go anywhere with the flash until you close Kies.

Matt
 
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If you use replacement apps, even more reason to root, and freeze all the system apps you no longer use. There is a list on XDA somewhere with stuff that you can safely freeze, but I just tested as I went along, and didn't have problems after freezing anything I froze.

Tbh, it's quite normal. To get the most out of an iPhone, you need to Jailbreak... to get the most out of my old Symbian phones I had to mod and hack a little. To get the most out of PSP's I had to hack.

It's fun if you have a little time, and fortunately everything seems to stay as it should with Android, and doesn't require much more fiddling when you have it how you want it.

Go ahead and do it. Use this guide... easy peasy. Make sure you close Kies before you hit start, or Odin won't go anywhere with the flash until you close Kies.

Matt

Thanks for the guide, i'll follow it this evening when i get home from work :)

Just out of curiosity, do you know how to make the widget bar at the bottom smaller?

It's insanely big and i would love to claim more screen space, cheeky i know, lol
 
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The bar with the four app shortcuts, on the home screens?

I don't know, sorry. May be possible with another launcher, like ADWLauncher, or Go Launcher EX, which run as a substitute to the TouchWiz UI and can be switched between on the fly... Maybe an aftermarket launcher from the market place would allow it, but I don't know.

Let me know how the root goes + battery life experiences :)

Matt
 
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I've been having terrible battery drain with wifi sharing having a mind of it's own along with the 'Android OS'. I wasn't going to but I caved in the end and went from KE2 to KE7 which made no difference. I bit the bullet and rooted the phone with a custom rom (lite'ning 1.1) which promised better battery and ram management. I'll give it the ram thing but wifi sharing and Android OS still did their battery eating.

In the end I froze a bunch of unused apps/processes with Titanium backup like many have suggested and it seems to have done the trick. Stupid that Samsung put the phone out with these issues. I wonder why the early reviews never ran into any problems.
 
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I've been having terrible battery drain with wifi sharing having a mind of it's own along with the 'Android OS'. I wasn't going to but I caved in the end and went from KE2 to KE7 which made no difference. I bit the bullet and rooted the phone with a custom rom (lite'ning 1.1) which promised better battery and ram management. I'll give it the ram thing but wifi sharing and Android OS still did their battery eating.

In the end I froze a bunch of unused apps/processes with Titanium backup like many have suggested and it seems to have done the trick. Stupid that Samsung put the phone out with these issues. I wonder why the early reviews never ran into any problems.

Wifi tether still works if you freeze wifi sharing and manager app.

I froze mine and noticed no improvement in battery life. Almost becoming a deal breaker for me. :(
 
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I froze mine and noticed no improvement in battery life. Almost becoming a deal breaker for me. :(

I upgraded from a HTC Desire to the Samsung Galaxy S2 and i can definitely say the battery lasts twice as long as my Desires did which was just awful.

From the get go, without any form of application control i'd agree that the Galaxy S2's battery would be the same as every other smart phone (bad).

But now i have my phone pretty much under control, i have about 70% battery still left at mid-day which is pretty good considering i'm listening to online radio at full volume over wi-fi from 9am.

It all depends on what you use your phone for, i only make a few calls on mine a day, the majority of my smart-phone usage is internet and application use.
 
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my s2 is opposite... my desire battery lasts heaps longer than my s2, to be honest I kinda like my desire better lol. still a great device though.

I think HTC does a much better job of controlling and managing the software that comes pre-installed / pre-startup on their phones compared to Samsung who doesn't seem to care what so ever.

Just like HP, they don't seem to understand the concept that just because a product is powerful, it doesn't mean you should pre-install loads of applications that start up as soon as a user powers on their kit.

Not only does it consume precious resources like ram and CPU but today's batteries just can't handle that sort of constant pounding and won't be for a couple more years at least (need at least 3000/4000 mAH capacities) lol

As for your Desire holding better charge, in terms of the technology available to each phone (it shouldn't) the stock battery for the Desire is only 1400 mAH compared to the Galaxy S2's 1650 mAh + (regardless of the extra screen size) the Galaxy has a far less power hungry screen technology.

I was content with my Desire but not entirely happy due to the low capacity of the genuine make batteries, thanks to the Galaxy S2, i'm now happy enough to use my smart phone for the next 2 years before considering purchasing an upgrade.

My motto in life has always been: Buy what you know you need, not what the industry wants you to, buying a phone every year has and always will be a mugs game.

Although that being said, my Desire did come in handy as i gave it to my niece for her recent 15th birthday to convert her over from the dark side that is over hyped and over priced Apple products :)
 
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Wow you get an even better battery life than me!

I got 30 hours, ending this evening... not bad! Light to medium use, installing quite a few apps, waking the screen alot, and email pushing all day. A little web. Wi-fi on all day also. Before debrading and upgrading to KE7 I think I got about 22, but it may have been lighter use the last 30hrs, or another change, a particular app or widget or something, I don't know.

I think if I streamed radio for 3 hours I'd be below 70%... Will have to try.

Still i'm happy now :D - got all the functionality a phone like this should have, and pretty good battery life for an android phone with a huge screen :)

Will still carry a charger with all my other shit though - just in case I have a heavy few hours here and there :p

Matt
 
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Wifi Sharing was also turned on in my phone a day ago without me doing a thing. Could this indeed be a virus? I have f-secure mobile on my phone and its telling me I have no viruses.

It's no virus, it's a bug. You need to freeze the service by rooting and use either titanium or something similar. The problem is on both KE2 and KE7 firmware.

I went from around 8 hours to 24 by freezing that single service.

Also another bug/issue is present with all dual core phones in general, this has been fixed in the upcoming android version 2.3.4.

Almost all dual-core Android phones suffering from power consumption issue? - Phone Arena

Can't wait to see how long the battery will last when that update is rolled out ;-)

/m
 
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This is totally bizzare. I updated to K07 yesterday and wifi sharing wasnt in my battery usage at all. This morning, I noticed it was there and was consuming 26% of my battery life. I forced closed it and shut down wifi. Where did it come from? I cant find an app or setting that even mentions wifi sharing.


Had same problem. I rooted my phone, downloaded bloatware freezer n froze its ass :D. Nowbmy battery is sweet!! 4hrs of navigation,calls n texts,whatsapp n fb. At the end... 40% boooyyeeeaah!
 
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Wow you get an even better battery life than me!

I got 30 hours, ending this evening... not bad! Light to medium use, installing quite a few apps, waking the screen alot, and email pushing all day. A little web. Wi-fi on all day also. Before debrading and upgrading to KE7 I think I got about 22, but it may have been lighter use the last 30hrs, or another change, a particular app or widget or something, I don't know.

I think if I streamed radio for 3 hours I'd be below 70%... Will have to try.

Still i'm happy now :D - got all the functionality a phone like this should have, and pretty good battery life for an android phone with a huge screen :)

Will still carry a charger with all my other shit though - just in case I have a heavy few hours here and there :p

Matt

Well i'm a heavy user of my phone so regardless of how much battery life i save by controlling background apps and their CPU usage, i will always kill my phones battery at the end of my working day (around 5ish).

But i have a solution in place that is working pretty well, i bought myself a genuine spare battery and a samsung battery charger unit i leave plugged in at work.

I simply swap out the battery when it gets below 5% and throw in the new one and leave the old one charging at work overnight, i then swap over the battery again when i enter work the next day.

This might sound tedious and it is but i read that these new batteries don't like to be plugged in and used at the same time, damages them apparently so if i wish to use mine to listen to web radio all day, i've got no choice but to have a 2nd battery if i want to leave work on time with enough charge to last the evening.

As for my good battery charge, it's all to do with how much CPU is being used on average and my screen brightness / usage.

I managed to find a really great radio app / widget called Andro Radio that only takes around 10% CPU usage while active which is a lot better than my previous radio app (Tunein) which took about 30-40% while active.

Listening to the radio via flash on a browser will take up a whopping 90%+ CPU usage and is not recommended, lol

My idle CPU usage (without the radio) hovers around 1-5% and that's with all these apps running in the background:

*No Lock
*CPU Notify
*Anti-Virus
*Juice Defender
*Perfect Lock
*Imo Messenger
*ZD Box
*Elixir Widget
*Watchdog Lite
*Good Night
*Snowstorm weather widget (sync interval is once every 5 hours)
*Facebook (auto-sync is turned off)
*Go SMS Pro
*Gmail (auto-sync is turned on)
*Auto Killer
*Calculator widget
*Mortplayer widget
*Battery monitor widget
*Swype keyboard (the default Samsung key layout sucks in my opinion)

There are other apps running that i can remove once i get the time on the weekend to root the phone like Yahoo Finance and AP Mobile (what ever that is) but overall i have pretty good control on what my phone is doing now.

I also know how much CPU my phone should be taking during its daily usage so if i see the CPU notify bar go into the half way mark and stay there, i know that the wi-fi sharing is taking 25% again, so go in to Watchdog to kill it off, lol).

I also have my brightness at the lowest setting at 12% while navigating and making calls but have my web browsers set at around 30% and the same setting of brightness on my video playing apps like Moboplayer etc.

I find the screen so good, there is no need to have the brightness above 50%, 100% just hurts my eyes.

I also have my screen time out at 15 seconds whilst listening to the radio as there is no need to have the screen on while listening to music, if i wish to change radio stations i simply hit the button at the bottom as quick and easy way to wake up the screen.

I've removed keylock / standby screen to make things quicker as the Perfect Lock app allows you to set a code entry sequence on individual apps / functions of the phone anyway (you can't do anything with my phone without needing to input a code for all the major functions, only the radio, video and music apps are code entry free, lol)

I change this via an Elixir widget to 1-2 mins while browsing the net, video players stop the time out automatically so don't need to change it from 15 seconds for them.

And lastly, i turn off the mobile internet when i'm connected to wi-fi as i've found that it can knock out the wi-fi connection completely (happened to me every 20 mins) and it consumes battery life for no reason.

I don't know why the mobile internet isn't turned off automatically once you are connected to wi-fi as why would you want your phone to be connected to the internet in 2 different ways at the same time?.

Anyway, summing up, to get the most out of the Galaxy S2, pretty much everything has to be changed about it software wise (the only useful default app that i haven't found a better version of on the marketplace is the gmail app, everything else i've replaced with far better versions (mostly for free).

Bottom line is, leaving the phone with its default Samsung stock setup would be a recipe for terrible battery life as nothing has been done software wise to ensure low CPU / battery usage, so i can see why a lot of people perceive the Galaxy S2 as having just as bad battery if not worse than other smart phones that have come before it.

It's just bad software setup not utilizing the full capabilities of the hardware they are installed on, an age old story that companies like Microsoft, Packard Bell, HP etc have practiced for many years now.

Hell, even big name monitor manufacturers make this mistake, i've recently purchased a 24inch Samsung LCD LED monitor and the default display settings were absolutely awful to the point where if i was a lazy person who just expected everything to be perfect from the get go, i would of returned to the product saying it was a load of crap.

Thankfully a few tweaks later, brought down the brightness from 100% to a more image / eye pleasing 65, changed the colour temp from warm to cold and bob's your uncle, perfect screen quality!

But i'm kinda use to this kind of stupidity as being a PC user for the last 13 years, i've grown a custom to monitoring and controlling pre-installed background apps to ensure that my device is doing exactly what i want it do be doing and not the other way around (lol).

It shouldn't be this way but like Microsoft, Google have left their OS (and i say this loosely for Google since Android is basically Linux with Java Apps) 'too open' in my opinion, it's all one extreme to another in this world, Apple apply way too many limits to their software and Google / Microsoft leave their OS far too open to software miss-use.

Why can't a company just achieve the middle ground instead? (open but with a degree of protection for the user).

The more ideal way of doing things is to have a balance of both control and freedom, no companies seem to understand this.

Anyhoo, i'll be interested to see how much more battery life i can squeeze out of this thing once i have it rooted and removed all the crappy pre-installed bloatware.

Here's a screen capture of my main home screen (now if i could just make the bottom bar half its size, i could fit in another row of useful app icons :p)

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Thanks for the tips! Definitely root your device and freeze the samsung junk, and wi-fi sharing.

I just got Elixr, very cool... my facebook syncing got screwed up, and I can no longer log in through Samsung SNS (even when unfrozen) only through the official app from the marketplace, which only supports contact syncing it seems... So yeah, have a free 4x1 space where I had a widget showing todays events and birthdays. Try as I might I cannot get the Samsung SNS Facebook thing to work again, but hey, at least I have my facebook -> contacts sync working properly. Filled that spot with 4 Elixr widgets :)

I just unlocked the screen and CPU was at 5%, not bad at idle. When i'm on the home screens I am at about 20% it just dropped to 1%, now up to 5% - guess it's not running too badly? :S

When the screen times out and I wake it up again it spikes up to 22% as the home screen shows, now back down to 4%...

Will reread your post anyway and get some more battery life out of my SGSII... although 30 hours wasn't too shabby!

Matt
 
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Thanks for the tips! Definitely root your device and freeze the samsung junk, and wi-fi sharing.

Yeah, i'm going to follow your guide this weekend and post back the results.

I just got Elixr
Yup, the best app / widget i've obtained so far :)

Just in case you didn't know, you can edit / update the icons on your existing Elixir screens by opening the program and pressing the menu button / widgets option (a life saver).

I just unlocked the screen and CPU was at 5%, not bad at idle. When i'm on the home screens I am at about 20% it just dropped to 1%, now up to 5% - guess it's not running too badly? :S
That's as low as you're probably going to get it with the vital apps running in the background :)

When the screen times out and I wake it up again it spikes up to 22% as the home screen shows, now back down to 4%...
Yeah i get that too, the Elixir widget updates every 10 seconds so it's not real time stats but it doesn't drain the battery that badly either.

Will reread your post anyway and get some more battery life out of my SGSII... although 30 hours wasn't too shabby!

Matt
Is that 30 hours of light use?

I always have the radio on all day during Monday to Friday so i have no idea how long mine will last with light use (i'll test it this weekend once i'm rooted) :)
 
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Thanks for the tip!

30 hours light to medium use... I mean, at light times, more use than in idle, but yeah, not working it hard.

Yeah I know, it doesn't refresh in real time... just was amazed at how much it spiked just to turn the screen on!

Now I have elixr it seems my Widgetsoid battery meter doesn't refresh itself until I click on it? Seems to be since I installed Elixr... any ideas? doesn't matter anyway, cause I planned to remove it.

Just ended 23 hours of battery life. 17 medium to hard hours, with 5 in flight mode to save battery... I wasn't at home, and didn't have a charger! haha :)

Matt
 
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Thanks for the tip!
Now I have elixr it seems my Widgetsoid battery meter doesn't refresh itself until I click on it? Seems to be since I installed Elixr... any ideas? doesn't matter anyway, cause I planned to remove it.

I tried Widgetsoid and wasn't that impressed by it, i don't need a massive clock embroiled on my home screen, a small clock in the notification bar will suffice for me (at least until i'm old and need letters to be bigger to read them, lol)

I replaced the stock power control widget with a customizable fashionable one by ZD box.

ZD Box can also show you what percentage of battery is left in the notification bar and it also reminds me how much of my monthly 1gb mobile internet allowance is left which is bloody handy in avoiding going over and running up a high bill.

For time to time advanced battery information, i use Battery Monitor Widget and Battery Doctor.

The one thing i love about the SG2 over my older HTC Desire is the fact that i can install as many apps as i want to try out without the constant worry of running out of internal phone memory.

It's allowed me to explore and customize my Android OS experience on a much higher level.

This truly is the phone of little to no limits, apart from my constant desire for longer battery life and an eventual upgrade to a 64gb micro sd card.

I can't think of a single thing i want that this phone doesn't already give me (in terms of the latest technology available in a phone today), it's perfect on so many levels, i love it.

Comparing the SG2 to the previous flagship Android phones successor (the HTC Desire S), the phone of choice was a no brainer.

HTC really had a poor showing this year compared to last, bit like Apple products really (not much was improved over last years models) it will be interesting to see if they learn from the likes of Samsung and make their phones better next year.

I'm not interested in the fancy stuff like gaming, 3D or more CPU cores (hell i never experienced a single slow down on my Desire and that had a single core), i just want the more practical stuff like improving on the existing features like battery life, size and weight.

Comparing the SG2 to my old Desire, all 3 of those features was greatly improved upon, so much so i don't see myself upgrading next year, probably going to leave it until 2013 and by then the Samsung Galaxy S4 should be out of this world with oodles of internal memory and features.

I just hope that by then some serious advances in battery technology would of taken place, it would be absolutely fantastic to heavily depend on a smart phone all day and only ever need to charge every 2-3 days (that's the dream anyway) :D
 
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Same... but that's a good job, since for the first time in my life, i'm on a contract with a phone... but I see no reason why this won't still be a good phone in 2013. I'll get offered early upgrade, and this phone will still be fairly high tech in 18 months time I imagine, the desire is still a bloody good phone now.

I was only using widgetsoid as I didn't find my else, but I didn't try much. Widgetsoid is a bit scruffy though. ZDBox didn't have everything I wanted though IIRC...

Maybe now I have the battery thing with Elixr I can use ZDBox instead...

Oh that's right... I didn't like the way that changing brightness, and some other things just took you to the system menu with ZDBox widget?

Will Elixr do everything widgetsoid does for me? In a bar? I have 8 widgets in my widgetsoid bar... wi-fi sharing, aeroplane mode, auto rotation, brightness level switch, silent mode, vibrate mode, and gps :)
 
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Same... but that's a good job, since for the first time in my life, i'm on a contract with a phone... but I see no reason why this won't still be a good phone in 2013. I'll get offered early upgrade, and this phone will still be fairly high tech in 18 months time I imagine, the desire is still a bloody good phone now.

Agreed, i'm now pretty much only looking for massive battery improvements (which i don't see happening anytime soon since they keep throwing in more power draining gimmicks like 3D :p).

Oh that's right... I didn't like the way that changing brightness

You didn't like the slider bar?

Oddly enough, ZD Box had 2 options to changing brightness, the 1st one just brought you to the brightness settings for some strange reason but the 2nd one brings up a slider bar which i thought was pretty neat.

Will Elixr do everything widgetsoid does for me? In a bar? I have 8 widgets in my widgetsoid bar... wi-fi sharing, aeroplane mode, auto rotation, brightness level switch, silent mode, vibrate mode, and gps :)

Yes, Elixr has all those :D
 
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If you use replacement apps, even more reason to root, and freeze all the system apps you no longer use. There is a list on XDA somewhere with stuff that you can safely freeze, but I just tested as I went along, and didn't have problems after freezing anything I froze.

Tbh, it's quite normal. To get the most out of an iPhone, you need to Jailbreak... to get the most out of my old Symbian phones I had to mod and hack a little. To get the most out of PSP's I had to hack.

It's fun if you have a little time, and fortunately everything seems to stay as it should with Android, and doesn't require much more fiddling when you have it how you want it.

Go ahead and do it. Use this guide... easy peasy. Make sure you close Kies before you hit start, or Odin won't go anywhere with the flash until you close Kies.

Matt

Ok so im seriously considering rooting my phone now. Have tried a few battery apps and waited for KE7 (still not available on O2).

I just checked out the rooting instructions on the link you put above, but even though it says its for begginers, it looks a bit complex, im not sure i understand what each step is doing (or how to do some of the steps).

Is there a rooting for dummies type guide anyone knows of?

Thanks in advance
 
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I'm supposed to be revising for an exam now, but maybe after work I will put together a guide video for you? I won't record the screen, but I'll record as I go along with my SGS in my hand filming the screen with that :p

Also, DarkFlame, have you tried 3g watchdog? Has a nice widget which looks good after fiddling with the settings :)
 
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I'm supposed to be revising for an exam now, but maybe after work I will put together a guide video for you? I won't record the screen, but I'll record as I go along with my SGS in my hand filming the screen with that :p

Also, DarkFlame, have you tried 3g watchdog? Has a nice widget which looks good after fiddling with the settings :)

Many thanks Baines93, that would be brilliant! Much appreciated as that will hopefully make it much easier to follow.

Also, i Googled rooting earlier and found something that said i had to be on XWKDD firmware before i root (or it will go wrong some how). Looking in 'About Phone' i think im on GINGERBREAD.XWKE2. DO i need to change this first?

Good luck with the exam!
 
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Is your phone sim free, or from a network provider?

Plug your phone in and run the Kies software... check for an update. If not, don't worry for now. If there is, it will be to KE7 (PDA) - do that if it's available.

I was with o2, and it was on an o2 product code, so didn't get updates until o2 okayed them... you can debrand your phone and get the latest updates, coverting the phone to a sim-free phone, but that requires more flashing and tricky stuff...

One hurdle at a time eh! If there is an update to KE7 available through Kies, do it, if not, leave it...

I will do a video hopefully tomorrow so we can root your phone :) - sorry, I had to work late tonight or I would have done it by now :(
 
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