3dEvo: Pre-release miscellany

BlackDynamite · Jun 6, 2011

sikclown said:
They all live by Sprint's rules on Accounts and ETFs. I would stick with Sprint (Corporate) rather than a reseller. Also worth noting the price for buying them outright will probably (according to history) be more expensive at a Best Buy. The Best Buy page has it at 599.99 currently.

Well unless Sprint goes back to mail in rebates and everyone else is doing instant. Right now the Sprint instant rebate thing is set to expire, I believe the day before the Evo 3D is released.

sikclown · Jun 6, 2011

BlackDynamite said:
Well unless Sprint goes back to mail in rebates and everyone else is doing instant. Right now the Sprint instant rebate thing is set to expire, I believe the day before the Evo 3D is released.

Huh? Sprint is doing 200.00 instant savings on the Evo3d and 100.00 instant savings on the View. It is in writing.... I have the email sitting in my inbox. I am pretty sure when mail in rebates were in play they were listed. So it would say something like "$199.99 after 100.00 instant rebate and 100.00 mail in rebate". Also Mail in Rebates went on a schedule so it probably holds true that instant rebates hold true to that as well. Example: Instant Rebates good on select phones from April 22nd - June 23rd and then a new period starts on the 24th through some arbitrary date for all newer devices with some of the older devices being removed from instant rebates.

Vanquished · Jun 6, 2011

Well, if they said you have another 30 days then I'd think you'd be able to get the E3D. You may want it written down on paper if they decide not to hold up their end of the 30 day trial though.

BlackDynamite · Jun 6, 2011

sikclown said:
Huh? Sprint is doing 200.00 instant savings on the Evo3d and 100.00 instant savings on the View. It is in writing.... I have the email sitting in my inbox. I am pretty sure when mail in rebates were in play they were listed. So it would say something like "$199.99 after 100.00 instant rebate and 100.00 mail in rebate". Also Mail in Rebates went on a schedule so it probably holds true that instant rebates hold true to that as well. Example: Instant Rebates good on select phones from April 22nd - June 23rd and then a new period starts on the 24th through some arbitrary date for all newer devices with some of the older devices being removed from instant rebates.

I have that same email, and it doesmn't say anything about the rebate. It just says $200 instant savings. It doesn't say anything about the $150 upgrade, or how the price actually gets to $200. I'm pretty sure the full retail price is not going to be $400 ($200 instant savings plus $200 new customer price) so there is more to it than that $200 instant savings.

wake69 · Jun 6, 2011

Sorry to hear about your problems, but am so glad you expressed this since i almost got the nexus 4g, glad i got the e3o, or 3vo, or what ever it has been decided to call

sikclown · Jun 6, 2011

BlackDynamite said:
I have that same email, and it doesmn't say anything about the rebate. It just says $200 instant savings. It doesn't say anything about the $150 upgrade, or how the price actually gets to $200. I'm pretty sure the full retail price is not going to be $400 ($200 instant savings plus $200 new customer price) so there is more to it than that $200 instant savings.

The $200 instant savings is the only savings (besides the 150.00 upgrade discount) Back when mail in rebates happened it would have been 100.00 instant and 100.00 mail in for a total of 200.00. The 150.00 upgrade isn't mentioned but assumed. New customers qualify automatically with a 2 year contract and we upgraders (new word? Lol) already know about the 150.00 savings with renewal. It has been this way for a longtime for business customers (instant savings instead of mail in rebates) and they moved it to all customers. The idea was to completely get rid if Mail in Rebates. Again the total savings for new or qualifying existing subscribers over no contract purchase is 350.00.

BlackDynamite · Jun 6, 2011

sikclown said:
The $200 instant savings is the only savings (besides the 150.00 upgrade discount) Back when mail in rebates happened it would have been 100.00 instant and 100.00 mail in for a total of 200.00. The 150.00 upgrade isn't mentioned but assumed. New customers qualify automatically with a 2 year contract and we upgraders (new word? Lol) already know about the 150.00 savings with renewal. It has been this way for a longtime for business customers (instant savings instead of mail in rebates) and they moved it to all customers. The idea was to completely get rid if Mail in Rebates. Again the total savings for new or qualifying existing subscribers over no contract purchase is 350.00.

Well I'm no expert, but it is posted all over the net that Sprint's instant rebate policy is set to expire, and many people were using that as a basis for their guess on the Evo 3D release date.

sikclown · Jun 6, 2011

The above is assuming the price is 549.99 of course.

sikclown · Jun 6, 2011

BlackDynamite said:
Well I'm no expert, but it is posted all over the net that Sprint's instant rebate policy is set to expire, and many people were using that as a basis for their guess on the Evo 3D release date.

Haha yeah I am no expert either. I am making educated guesses here based on my 7 plus year experience with Sprint. I could be wrong and have been wrong before. Again what I said about Mail In Rebates is true. They posted them for periods of time. So phone A may be on the rebate list from January until June 23rd but not be on the list from June 24th on because new devices are out. But phone B may be newer than A and be on both lists. The dates here don't matter for what I am attempting (maybe poorly) to illustrate. Now replace Mail In Rebates (the words) with Instant Savings and it stays the same. In my experience anytime a mail in rebate has been used it said it in the fine print like this "Device A $399.99 (two-year new customer price) - $100.00 instant rebate - $100.00 Mail in Rebate = 199.99 (Final Price). This could be completely wrong thinking on my part. I hope I am being clear on what I am trying to illustrate.

jerofld · Jun 6, 2011

I agree, get it written on paper from a manager.

arado58 · Jun 6, 2011

does anyone know if we're going to get htcsense.com/htc hub on this phone

ArmageddonX · Jun 6, 2011

arado58 said:
does anyone know if we're going to get htcsense.com/htc hub on this phone

I saw "HTC Hub" in the Apps drawer on the recent Wirefly review. So I'm pretty sure thats a yes.

jerofld · Jun 6, 2011

BD, man... I hope the best for you and that plan of yours. I would suggest you rotate where you do that stuff, too. like do it first at a corporate store. We if successful, and go to BB, etc. That way they hopefully won't catch on to what you're doing. Stores do have the right to deny you service.

BlackDynamite · Jun 6, 2011

sikclown said:
Haha yeah I am no expert either. I am making educated guesses here based on my 7 plus year experience with Sprint. I could be wrong and have been wrong before. Again what I said about Mail In Rebates is true. They posted them for periods of time. So phone A may be on the rebate list from January until June 23rd but not be on the list from June 24th on because new devices are out. But phone B may be newer than A and be on both lists. The dates here don't matter for what I am attempting (maybe poorly) to illustrate. Now replace Mail In Rebates (the words) with Instant Savings and it stays the same. In my experience anytime a mail in rebate has been used it said it in the fine print like this "Device A $399.99 (two-year new customer price) - $100.00 instant rebate - $100.00 Mail in Rebate = 199.99 (Final Price). This could be completely wrong thinking on my part. I hope I am being clear on what I am trying to illustrate.

You're clear bro, and I appreciate the info. I have been operating under the assumption that the mail in rebate thing was coming back, per a bunch of posts online (and people were guessing that the Evo 3D would be released on whatever date based on the mail in rebates coming back on that date.) I hope you're right though, because mail in rebates suck, lol. Anyway, here is something saying the instant rebate program was extended to 6-4:
Sprint Extending Instant Mail-In Rebate to 6/4 - BriefMobile

yourfriendmat · Jun 6, 2011

Well if you're SP buying on the 21st, do you have to worry about MIR? Since it's before the 23rd, you should have instant. Or do you think they'll find a way to screw that up?

sikclown · Jun 6, 2011

BlackDynamite said:
You're clear bro, and I appreciate the info. I have been operating under the assumption that the mail in rebate thing was coming back, per a bunch of posts online (and people were guessing that the Evo 3D would be released on whatever date based on the mail in rebates coming back on that date.) I hope you're right though, because mail in rebates suck, lol. Anyway, here is something saying the instant rebate program was extended to 6-4:
Sprint Extending Instant Mail-In Rebate to 6/4 - BriefMobile

Yeah I saw a few things like that around the internet and I could be very very wrong. I am a business customer with 20 lines and the last phone I had to mail a rebate in for was the original Touch Pro I think (maybe even the Mogul) and they have all had instant savings since. It only makes sense to my brain for it to work this way on the individual and family said as well. I hope I am right too because no one should have to deal with Mail In Rebates.

sikclown · Jun 6, 2011

yourfriendmat said:
Well if you're SP buying on the 21st, do you have to worry about MIR? Since it's before the 23rd, you should have instant. Or do you think they'll find a way to screw that up?

Don't worry about any MIRs. It is an instant savings of 200.00 and the final price for two year new activations and qualifying two year upgrades is 199.99

BlackDynamite · Jun 6, 2011

sikclown said:
Yeah I saw a few things like that around the internet and I could be very very wrong. I am a business customer with 20 lines and the last phone I had to mail a rebate in for was the original Touch Pro I think (maybe even the Mogul) and they have all had instant savings since. It only makes sense to my brain for it to work this way on the individual and family said as well. I hope I am right too because no one should have to deal with Mail In Rebates.

I hope you're right too. But I'm pretty sure regular consumer accounts had to deal with mail in rebates for the Evo 4G. I got mine at Radio Shack because they were doing instant rebates.

sikclown · Jun 7, 2011

BlackDynamite said:
I hope you're right too. But I'm pretty sure regular consumer accounts had to deal with mail in rebates for the Evo 4G. I got mine at Radio Shack because they were doing instant rebates.

Yeah they did. I was trying to find that email from back then that had the mail in rebate listed out the way I outlined. Oh well I am keeping fingers crossed for everyone

BlackDynamite · Jun 7, 2011

So I just checked out the radio shack preorder page. It says in the fine print:
"$199 with new or upgrade 2 year agreement on a select plan with $10/mo. + Premium Data add-on $499.99 unactivated. NO MAIL-IN REBATE HASSLES"
(the caps are theirs)

A couple interesting things to take form that. First, it looks like the price will be $500 full retail, which is better than the $550 I was thinking it was. And second, they are touting the no mail in rebate angle. Not sure why they would put that in caps if nobody else does mail in rebates either.

Another intersting thing is the radio shack ad has that inyofacerecords.com website listed. Okay, I made that last part up.

sikclown · Jun 7, 2011

BlackDynamite said:
So I just checked out the radio shack preorder page. It says in the fine print:
"$199 with new or upgrade 2 year agreement on a select plan with $10/mo. + Premium Data add-on $499.99 unactivated. NO MAIL-IN REBATE HASSLES"
(the caps are theirs)

A couple interesting things to take form that. First, it looks like the price will be $500 full retail, which is better than the $550 I was thinking it was. And second, they are touting the no mail in rebate angle. Not sure why they would put that in caps if nobody else does mail in rebates either.

Another intersting thing is the radio shack ad has that inyofacerecords.com website listed. Okay, I made that last part up.

Yeah now I am thoroughly confused.

Emmexx · Jun 7, 2011

sikclown said:
Yeah now I am thoroughly confused.

199 after 200 instant savings with a new line or eligible upgrade, according to the email today

Looks like a 399 price tag at sprint. Here is the link:

Sprint - IT'S ON: All-new HTC EVO devices are coming

jmtz345 · Jun 7, 2011

i am currently without a phone but i recently had my contract renewed due to a employee discount. would i be able to get the evo 3d for 199.99? or would i have to pay the complete price. my original contract started back in november... oh yeah and i have already pre-ordered through radioshack but i would like to get some opinions before i actually talk to sprint

Rose4uKy · Jun 7, 2011

I remember last year having to do a MIR with the EVO. I always go to Sprint cause they bill your account. But I just bought an EVO yesterday and paid 150 instantly no MIR. So when I exchange it on the 24th for the 3D I was told all I would pay would be the 50 dollar difference which I have a 50 dollar Sprint gift card from pre ordering. So even if the MIR was to expire on the 23rd and I did an exchange would I have to pay an extra hundred and do the MIR? I see the way everyone is talking it will probably be instant so I probably don't have to worry but was just wondering. But the lady at the store said all I pay is the difference on the phone 50 bucks so I guess I'm good.

sikclown · Jun 7, 2011

Emmexx said:
199 after 200 instant savings with a new line or eligible upgrade, according to the email today Looks like a 399 price tag at sprint. Here is the link:

Sprint - IT'S ON: All-new HTC EVO devices are coming

We know that as you can see from our back and forth. What I am confused about now is the break down. Where does the 150.00 upgrade discount factor in with this 200.00 instant savings and a price of 399.99 before savings.

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