Upgrade to Charge or Thunderbolt...or other?

jikhead · Jun 29, 2011

Hey guys, I just spoke with my brother who took his webinar training w/Verizon on the tiered data plan changes. He knew I was looking for wording about existing customers going from 3G to 4G. He confirmed with me that in his webinar, that it did specifically say that existing 3G customers that purchase a 4G phone AFTER July 7th, would still be grandfathered in on the unlimited data packages.

So no need to rush out on the 6th (like I was going to do) to purchase either the Thunderbolt, Revolution, or Charge. We can now wait on the Bionic.

I did ask him to send me a screenshot for proof to everyone on the boards, but he told me no because he's chicken S#%t and scared to do that kind of thing. So, we'll have to take my brother's street creds on this one.

He also wanted to tell me a data fact pointed out in his training: that said 96% of 3G customers use less than 2GB of data...and that 91% of 4G customers are using less than 2GB of data.

drdoom · Jun 29, 2011

jikhead said:
Hey guys, I just spoke with my brother who took his webinar training w/Verizon on the tiered data plan changes. He knew I was looking for wording about existing customers going from 3G to 4G. He confirmed with me that in his webinar, that it did specifically say that existing 3G customers that purchase a 4G phone AFTER July 7th, would still be grandfathered in on the unlimited data packages.

So no need to rush out on the 6th (like I was going to do) to purchase either the Thunderbolt, Revolution, or Charge. We can now wait on the Bionic.

I did ask him to send me a screenshot for proof to everyone on the boards, but he told me no because he's chicken S#%t and scared to do that kind of thing. So, we'll have to take my brother's street creds on this one.

He also wanted to tell me a data fact pointed out in his training: that said 96% of 3G customers use less than 2GB of data...and that 91% of 4G customers are using less than 2GB of data.

If he is really trying to defend Verizon's movement to tiered data, ask him why it is so important to screw the 4% of 3G and 9% of 4G customers that actually take advantage of their unlimited plan. I'd be interested to know how they come up with these numbers because I can guarantee you that not everyone with a Thunderbolt, Charge, or Revolution lives in a 4G area.

Jman42028 · Jun 29, 2011

I dont think he is defending anything doom. I have access to the same materials and that is what is written on them. Sounds like jikhead was just quoting what he was told, no need to kill the messenger tho. I will do my best to provide screenshots after I leave work, since I'm working right now I have no way of blurring the stuff that needs to be blurred.

jikhead · Jun 29, 2011

Thanks Jman, yeah my brother was stating some info that was in the training material. Your putting words into his mouth by thinking that. My brother is is a business account executive; he doesn't work in corporate and isn't making the policies...so cut him some slack. Shit, I know more about the phones and when things are going to happen WAY before he does; thanks to the forums and blogs...which he doesn't do. It's just his job and that is it...he doesn't have a passion for the industry like I do (spent 7 yrs in the industry and trying to get back in it).

euph_22 · Jun 29, 2011

drdoom said:
If he is really trying to defend Verizon's movement to tiered data, ask him why it is so important to screw the 4% of 3G and 9% of 4G customers that actually take advantage of their unlimited plan. I'd be interested to know how they come up with these numbers because I can guarantee you that not everyone with a Thunderbolt, Charge, or Revolution lives in a 4G area.

Because of the Tragedy of the Commons. Those people are screwing all of us out of network speed. There is not an infinite amount of bandwidth. If 1 out of every 25 3g users and 1 out of every 11 4g users are monopolizing that bandwidth and hurting the other 24 3g users (and so on). And just a nitpick, so I find this post annoying on several levels (do you berate the paper boy/girl because the news sucks?)...they aren't screwing those people. Those people have unlimited plans, so they will be grandfathered in and will continue to have unlimited plans.

On to the main reason I'm annoyed by this post. jikhead's brother has gone out of his way to share this information, and you decide the heap S#$% on him for a decision that he had no authority about. And you choose him as your target SIMPLY because he went out of his way to share this information.

euph_22 · Jun 29, 2011

And it's definitely a better than Sprint's Premium Data Surcharge...that's attached to every data plan they have, no matter how premium they are.

floridajames04 · Jun 30, 2011

Galaxy S2 you CANT LOSE ! ! ! ! Videos prove its the BEST Android device out right now for a million reasons.... ;-)

ACD168 · Jun 30, 2011

I know the inc2 doesn't have 4g, but if you were to sell your inc1 for say 200, you could buy a second hand inc2 for another 100-150$, or new for 440$ I think it is. I love the phone, I only bought it because I had an upgrade on my family plan so I can still upgrade next april 2012, so the inc2 should hold me over and I still have my inc1, love them both.

06Stang · Jul 5, 2011

ACD168 said:
I know the inc2 doesn't have 4g, but if you were to sell your inc1 for say 200, you could buy a second hand inc2 for another 100-150$, or new for 440$ I think it is. I love the phone, I only bought it because I had an upgrade on my family plan so I can still upgrade next april 2012, so the inc2 should hold me over and I still have my inc1, love them both.

Same situation for me. Love my Inc1 and my new Inc2. Was very cautious but because I dont have 4G here yet, the TBolt is too bulky, and I hate Samsung and LG, the Inc2 grew on me fast.

My upgrade will be January and I'm hoping for new 4G phones at that point.

iamdlux · Jul 7, 2011

Quick honest review from an INC owner who went to the Charge.

First and foremost, the Samsung UI is really bad. I read all the stuff about how bad touchwiz was, but I had no experience other than Sense on the INC. I thought people were just being anal...they weren't. Pretty noticeable lag just sliding through screens, so I installed go launcher for a snappier experience. Much better, lag is gone and things look and function better, but even still, Sense on the inc feels snappier and more polished.

I'm sure you've read that screen on the Charge is amazing, and it is. It was a big sell factor for me when comparing to the TB. I loved my amoled screen on the INC, but the Charge's screen is much better.

Video's that I watch come out sharper on the Incredible, I suppose due to the smaller screen size. Colors on videos look more realistic on the INC, I seem to have a slight blue tint on my Charge, unnoticeable to me until I compared side by side.

Web browsing experience is much better to me on the Charge. It offers smooth scrolling even through flash heavy pages, though with the drawback of checker-boarding. However I much prefer that over loading the whole page and getting stutter while scrolling.

Camera is no contest in favor of the charge, great camera on the charge. Video recording is a night and day difference, very smooth during 720p recording, doesn't really suffer from the low fps the inc does, and infinitely better in low/no light. Also doesn't suffer from the tin-can sound you get with the inc.

GPS...my INC grabbed the GPS signal pretty instantly, never left me waiting on the navigation, which I use quite a bit. It sometimes takes forever for the Charge to grab GPS for the navi. The other day I was driving for 4 minutes before it decided to start spouting out the directions, was just hanging on "Searching for GPS..."

I couldn't really tell a difference in audio/call quality, though i'm no audiophile. I did however notice that speaker output on the inc comes out louder when both are max volume.

The only reason I got the Charge was because nobody on my family plan was using their early upgrade, so I got this phone as filler until the next gen flagships come out. I was really only after the bigger screen, and to a smaller extent the 4g (usually on wifi connection faster than 4g). If you can wait it out a month or two for the next batch of phones, definitely do so. Though I do enjoy this phone, it's not enough to upgrade over the INC yet.

parri1l · Jul 9, 2011

iamdlux said:
Quick honest review from an INC owner who went to the Charge.

First and foremost, the Samsung UI is really bad. I read all the stuff about how bad touchwiz was, but I had no experience other than Sense on the INC. I thought people were just being anal...they weren't. Pretty noticeable lag just sliding through screens, so I installed go launcher for a snappier experience. Much better, lag is gone and things look and function better, but even still, Sense on the inc feels snappier and more polished.

I'm sure you've read that screen on the Charge is amazing, and it is. It was a big sell factor for me when comparing to the TB. I loved my amoled screen on the INC, but the Charge's screen is much better.

Video's that I watch come out sharper on the Incredible, I suppose due to the smaller screen size. Colors on videos look more realistic on the INC, I seem to have a slight blue tint on my Charge, unnoticeable to me until I compared side by side.

Web browsing experience is much better to me on the Charge. It offers smooth scrolling even through flash heavy pages, though with the drawback of checker-boarding. However I much prefer that over loading the whole page and getting stutter while scrolling.

Camera is no contest in favor of the charge, great camera on the charge. Video recording is a night and day difference, very smooth during 720p recording, doesn't really suffer from the low fps the inc does, and infinitely better in low/no light. Also doesn't suffer from the tin-can sound you get with the inc.

GPS...my INC grabbed the GPS signal pretty instantly, never left me waiting on the navigation, which I use quite a bit. It sometimes takes forever for the Charge to grab GPS for the navi. The other day I was driving for 4 minutes before it decided to start spouting out the directions, was just hanging on "Searching for GPS..."

I couldn't really tell a difference in audio/call quality, though i'm no audiophile. I did however notice that speaker output on the inc comes out louder when both are max volume.

The only reason I got the Charge was because nobody on my family plan was using their early upgrade, so I got this phone as filler until the next gen flagships come out. I was really only after the bigger screen, and to a smaller extent the 4g (usually on wifi connection faster than 4g). If you can wait it out a month or two for the next batch of phones, definitely do so. Though I do enjoy this phone, it's not enough to upgrade over the INC yet.

You stated all the reasons I took the Charge back. Screen was nice. Texting and inet with larger screen was nice. Wasnt paying that kind of coin for min benefit

AppsRUs · Aug 11, 2011

Wait until HTC drops an announcement on Vigor. I hear its suppose to knock the iPhone5 out.

Jman42028 · Aug 12, 2011

AppsRUs said:
Wait until HTC drops an announcement on Vigor. I hear its suppose to knock the iPhone5 out.

its already been leaked on endgadget for a minute now. That phone is gonna be insane, supposedly the replacement of the tbolt. Hopefully it runs as smooth as the inc2 does, if so, it will be an excellent phone.

As far as the samsung/motorola/htc thing, I've played with all of them, and sense is by far the best UI right now, if your going stock. Touchwiz is just plain bad. I don't know what is so different between our phones and what they get over seas (if anything) but somehow that GS2 is almost as hyped as the droid bionic, but at the end of the day, it still has samsungs crappy UI, and their horrible OS updating procedure, so whats the point?

If you are holding out for a new phone, the vigor would be it, without a doubt that thing looks like a beast.

That and the bionic are aparently going to be out around the same time frame, along with big red's version of the gs2. It should be an interesting fall this year, no doubt.

nhindian · Aug 22, 2011

I don't understand the hype for the Bionic?? It's 1ghz processor, 4.3'' screen... 1gb ram.

It seems the Samsung Galaxy S II will be better at 1.3ghz (maybe even 1.5ghz for VZW version), same screen...

What gives?

Jman42028 · Aug 24, 2011

nhindian said:
I don't understand the hype for the Bionic?? It's 1ghz processor, 4.3'' screen... 1gb ram.

It seems the Samsung Galaxy S II will be better at 1.3ghz (maybe even 1.5ghz for VZW version), same screen...

What gives?

when they announced the bionic in march, it was far and away the highest end phone, at this point after all the delays, everyone else has caught up to it, and in some cases passed it with specs. I don't get the hype personally, but I literally have at least one customer a day asking about the dang thing.

The biggest "advantage" the gs2 has is it doesn't run the motoblur ui, lol.

jamor · Aug 24, 2011

Wait for samsung galaxy s2 you won't regret it.

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