Knock-Off Phones : Are They Doing Something About It?

Remordere · Jul 22, 2011

We all heard that Apple sued Samsung and HTC, Nokia suing Apple and so on. But the lawsuit is just similarities in the phones (Apple to Samsung) but what about the knock-off phones like in China.

I never heard the company or any other company that has been counterfeited do anything about the knock-offs. In this country knock-offs are the majority of phones found in the streets.

Yet, the big companies doesn't seem to do anything about it.

Edit: I am not really just talking about Apple. Every phone makers have a knock-off somewhere. Knock-offs are the clear violators of Intellectual Property, not because it is similar in design.

I know the lawsuits is just some way to either delay the release of phones, or not really releasing them or just the money but if they really want to protect their IP they should do something about knock-offs.

D-U-R-X · Jul 22, 2011

Is it something to do with traceability of the knock offs though?

mikedt · Jul 22, 2011

SE Asia... the Wild West of the 21st century.

'Intellectual Property'? What's that when it's at home?

Sportswear shop, Xilinhot, Inner Mongolia.

I wonder which famous German car manufacturer is having its trademark infringed here?

'I'm lovin' it.'

D-U-R-X · Jul 22, 2011

mikedt said:
SE Asia... the Wild West of the 21st century

lordofthereef · Jul 22, 2011

They aren't doing much about it because there isn't much to do. They have also realized, I am sure, that they aren't losing many legitimate sales. People buy the knockoffs because they are a small fraction of legit retail price. If they didn't buy the knock-off, they wouldn't go back and buy the real thing anyway.

mikedt · Jul 22, 2011

Oh here's a real gem of trademark infringement I found the other day.

The National Lottery, UK.

Shandong Airlines, China.

Would one really want to be travelling with an airline which has a logo that basically says 'Keep your fingers crossed' or 'Good luck and hope for the best.' :thinking:

http://www.national-lottery.co.uk/
"The crossed fingers logo is the registered trademark of the National Lottery Commission."...blah blah blah.

karandpr · Jul 22, 2011

It's more of Market thing .
Apple doesnt want to woo customers buying knockoffs
But say Apple wins a case against samsung for Patent no. 64539083747382738927483274834734284783297
(Which proves apple invented right black dot on the line of cornered rounded rectangles )

Then the common notion among people .
"Dude look Android system was completely copied from iOS .Apple won a case against them." (Lets face it few people reads the total facts of patent cases won)
Plus Samsung will have to shell out royalty to apple for every phone sold.That would be profit for absolutely nothing.So basically ,consumer will be paying 5$ out of 200$ phone to apple .

Apple has nothing to do with cheap knock offs since their existence cant be confirmed .
Apple wouldn't have bothered at all if android would have failed .But it isn't so.

Remordere · Jul 22, 2011

There is actually a big company in Shenzen, I think is the name, so they can do something. There are operations to try and destroy knock-offs but like in the clothing industry, they aren't being supported by the companies.

karandpr · Jul 22, 2011

mikedt said:
Oh here's a real gem of trademark infringement I found the other day.

The National Lottery, UK.
View attachment 20420

Shandong Airlines, China.
View attachment 20421

Would one really want to be travelling with an airline which has a logo that basically says 'Keep your fingers crossed' or 'Good luck and hope for the best.'

Home | The National Lottery - home of Lotto, EuroMillions and Instant Wins
"The crossed fingers logo is the registered trademark of the National Lottery Commission."...blah blah blah.

Winners get to pilot the plane .

D-U-R-X · Jul 22, 2011

karandpr said:
Winners get to pilot the plane .

Everyone else gets to wind up the elastic band that drives the props!!

am78 · Jul 22, 2011

That's really where the finger needs to be pointed at this point... I mean... Apple should have known that there was going to be someone out there who would come up with something very very similar to their product... but for someone to have a cheap knock off version that they are trying to say "IS" Apple or whom ever needs to have a stop put to it... even if they are trying to say they "ARE" Abndroid handsets... I believe Jobs needs to forget these companies that he feels are copy cats and go after what is truely a kock off...

esthernrob · Jul 22, 2011

i have seen one and only one "knock off" iphone and it was a piece of crap... looked like the original but that was as far as it went... internally, didn't amount to a pile of beans... IMO...

Remordere · Jul 22, 2011

Some countries don't really see it but with our country knock-offs prevalent. The funny thing is, some claim it is 98% like the real phones. Some aren't even 5%

mikedt · Jul 22, 2011

am78 said:
That's really where the finger needs to be pointed at this point... I mean... Apple should have known that there was going to be someone out there who would come up with something very very similar to their product... but for someone to have a cheap knock off version that they are trying to say "IS" Apple or whom ever needs to have a stop put to it... even if they are trying to say they "ARE" Abndroid handsets... I believe Jobs needs to forget these companies that he feels are copy cats and go after what is truely a kock off...

Hahahaha... Welcome to China and SE Asia.

You know the game Whac-A-Mole? Where you bash one mole with the mallet, and several more pop-up. Well that's what it's like when Apple, Rolex, Louis Vuitton, Gucci, Armani, et-al, try to shut down the counterfeiters of China.

Replicas and counterfeits are just a fact of life here. BTW I'm actually wearing knock-off 'Burberry London' shorts as I type this post.

Remordere · Jul 22, 2011

The reason why they are hard to shut down is sheer number of workers. Those same workers, are from the legitimate companies sweatshop themselves, that's why the products can be made almost perfect.

mikedt · Jul 22, 2011

Remordere said:
The reason why they are hard to shut down is sheer number of workers. Those same workers, are from the legitimate companies sweatshop themselves, that's why the products can be made almost perfect.

That actually happens quite often. Real-mccoy goes out the front doors and knock-offs go out the back doors of the sweatshops(factories). Especially with clothing, handbags, shoes, etc.

I know of one case with a shoe factory in Dongguan, Guangdong Province. They where making shoes for some famous western brand. They lost the contract, so they just carried on making them anyway and sold them on Taobao.

Remordere · Jul 22, 2011

I actually got original phone parts from a guy in China.

mikedt · Jul 22, 2011

D-U-R-X said:
Everyone else gets to wind up the elastic band that drives the props!!

I did actually fly with Shandong Airlines once, NEVER AGAIN, I'd rather take a bus or train. The whole aircraft stank of toilet and BO.

BTW my two nominations for world's worse airlines.

1) Shandong Airlines, China. Smelly aeroplanes.
2) Air Transat, Canada. Smallest-narrowest seats on long-haul flights.

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