Bionic Review W/ Videos, Benchmarks, Tests

jroc · Sep 5, 2011

^I was gonna say that might have been older benchmarks from earlier this year, and right now I think the GS2 does better. But this is one benchmark someone was showing the other day about how the Bionic isnt impressive:

Galaxy S II Performance Tests, AT&T & Sprint: Fastest Androids Yet : Online Social Media

So according to this link someone felt like showing to say the Bionic isnt impressive, you're right.

Even in that case...that could be from 1 run or the lowest of a run on the GS2. Like in this very thread....2 different runs of the Bionic has 2 different scores.

Benchmarks....gotta luv em....lol. Most of us learned last year with the way Quadrant can be manipulated....benchmarks are just that...benchmarks. Nothing more and nothing less. They tell some story about the device, but not the whole story.

I believe the Bionic will do fine for whatever gets thrown its way. After updates it will hopefully just get better. The hands on clips in this thread gives me high hopes for the Bionic. Thats the great thing about Android....you dont have to get 1 phone to have a nice device, we can choose from several....unlike another company we know about...lol

Some of us forget that along the way. It is comical seeing Bionic haters. No matter how many ppl try to hate on it or put it down, it will still get sales.

Sandroidfan · Sep 5, 2011

50k score is preliminary benchmark done for early proto-type SGS2 back in Feb. The regular one after official launch scores over 72k on stock browser. It's incredible beast when it comes to browsing.

Review: Samsung Galaxy S II - NDTVGadgets.com

jroc · Sep 5, 2011

^ See...there you go. That benchmark says 72,000. One I posted showed 49,000 for the GS2 going to Sprint. The one going to Sprint is supposed to have the Exynos too.

Benchmarks...gotta luv em...lol

johnlgalt · Sep 5, 2011

The only benchmark I care about is how it works in my hands.

I have different apps than other people, different usage modes than other people and different needs than other people. IDGAF about what a phone's benchmarks are, unless there is a glaring deficiency (such as a failing piece of hardware, or a software / driver config error restricting some part of the hardware).

I'm not here to get a phone that I can point to and say "HA Ha, I got the better phone!" I'm here to get a phone that does for me what I want it to do.

Plain and simple.

sx4dude2013 · Sep 5, 2011

Vihzel said:
*smacks you out of jealousy*

I get corp discount too! $23.99 unlimited data

Vihzel · Sep 5, 2011

sx4dude2013 said:
I get corp discount too! $23.99 unlimited data

Ahh well... my parents pay for the family plan so it's all good.

charlie310 · Sep 5, 2011

Vihzel said:
Ahh well... my parents pay for the family plan so it's all good.

Degenerate! J/K. My company offers 17% discount. Just waiting to make the switch over from AT&T (They put the kibosh on the T-Mobile merger).

A few questions:
How is rooting & flashing custom ROMS on Moto phones? Are the custom ROMs usually good? I'm new to Moto, and have only used Samsung Androids, which are very root/custom ROM friendly.

What is your opinions on the specs of the Bionic? IMO, a 1GHz processor is a little on the outdated side (even if it's 2-core). When 1.5GHz processors are available, I am surprised the Bionic doesn't even sport 1.2GHz.

BringItSon · Sep 5, 2011

charlie310 said:
What is your opinions on the specs of the Bionic? IMO, a 1GHz processor is a little on the outdated side (even if it's 2-core). When 1.5GHz processors are available, I am surprised the Bionic doesn't even sport 1.2GHz.

This is not true at all...

the upcoming 1.5 Ghz snapdragon processor are only equivalent to 1.2 Ghz Exynos and 1.2 Ghz Omap4. I would even say 1.2 Ghz Exynos and 1.2 OMAP4 edges out 1.5 Ghz snapdragon.

Having said that, Bionic does not have 1.2 Ghz, but if you root it, you can just unlock the speed to 1.2 Ghz at a cost of some battery power and you should have processing power that is as good as 1.5 Ghz snapdragon devices. And non of these phones will have LTE anytime soon(imo).

LTE is the major factor here. Obviously Motorola wanted to lower the clock speed in order to lengthen the battery life.

charlie310 · Sep 5, 2011

BringItSon said:
This is not true at all...

the upcoming v I would even say 1.2 Ghz Exynos and 1.2 OMAP4 edges out 1.5 Ghz snapdragon.

Having said that, Bionic does not have 1.2 Ghz, but if you root it, you can just unlock the speed to 1.2 Ghz at a cost of some battery power and you should have processing power that is as good as 1.5 Ghz snapdragon devices. And non of these phones will have LTE anytime soon(imo).

LTE is the major factor here. Obviously Motorola wanted to lower the clock speed in order to lengthen the battery life.

I see. I didn't know 1.5 Ghz snapdragon = 1.2 Ghz Exynos/Omap4. Still, IMO it should sport the latest processor. Being able to overclock the processor is irrelevant since one could also overclock the 1.5GHz snapdragon or 1.2 Ghz Exynos/Omap4.

This is probably the main CON for me. Maybe, even bad enough for me to wait for the next upcoming phone.

BringItSon · Sep 5, 2011

charlie310 said:
I see. I didn't know 1.5 Ghz snapdragon = 1.2 Ghz Exynos/Omap4. Still, IMO it should sport the latest processor. Being able to overclock the processor is irrelevant since one could also overclock the 1.5GHz snapdragon or 1.2 Ghz Exynos/Omap4.

This is probably the main CON for me. Maybe, even bad enough for me to wait for the next upcoming phone.

Omap4 is fairly new processor especially compared to Snapdragon...
Snapdragon= old processor at high speed
OMAP4= new processor at low speed.

and low speed was essential as a LTE phone since LTE takes tons of power.

so tbh, i am not sure what your complaint is... the main selling point of Bionic is LTE Dual core. there is a good reason why we didnt have dual core LTE up to now despite the fact that LTE has been available for a while.

Motorola couldve made Bionic with 1.5 Ghz Omap4 which will blow 1.5 Ghz snapdragon out of water, but it wouldve had 4 hours battery life... Moto was able to make Bionic happen because they designed their own LTE chip.Unless other companies design their own LTE chip or wait till next year for new LTE chip, they wont be able to make high speed dual core LTE phone.

Vehtemas · Sep 5, 2011

Vihzel said:
Ahh well... my parents pay for the family plan so it's all good.

I don't pay for my line either, just the phone

charlie310 · Sep 5, 2011

BringItSon said:
Omap4 is fairly new processor especially compared to Snapdragon...
Snapdragon= old processor at high speed
OMAP4= new processor at low speed.

and low speed was essential as a LTE phone since LTE takes tons of power.

so tbh, i am not sure what your complaint is... the main selling point of Bionic is LTE Dual core. there is a good reason why we didnt have dual core LTE up to now despite the fact that LTE has been available for a while.

Motorola couldve made Bionic with 1.5 Ghz Omap4 which will blow 1.5 Ghz snapdragon out of water, but it wouldve had 4 hours battery life... Moto was able to make Bionic happen because they designed their own LTE chip.Unless other companies design their own LTE chip or wait till next year for new LTE chip, they wont be able to make high speed dual core LTE phone.

I thought I made my complaint pretty clear: the Bionic should have a 1.2 Ghz Exynos/Omap4 processor instead of a 1.0Ghz one. To spell it out: 1.2>1.0.

I get your point w/battery life. For me, power>battery life. I am never without a charger (usb charger at work, socket charger at home). If that doesn't work for you, you can always get a bigger battery, or even underclock if you really wanted to.

I might wait to see what the Droid Prime will bring. I'm a sucker for those AMOLD screens, and there is speculation that it will be 1.5GHz LTE. But, who knows when it will come out....

BringItSon · Sep 5, 2011

charlie310 said:
I thought I made my complaint pretty clear: the Bionic should have a 1.2 Ghz Exynos/Omap4 processor instead of a 1.0Ghz one. To spell it out: 1.2>1.0.

I get your point w/battery life. For me, power>battery life. I am never without a charger (usb charger at work, socket charger at home). If that doesn't work for you, you can always get a bigger battery, or even underclock if you really wanted to.

I might wait to see what the Droid Prime will bring. I'm a sucker for those AMOLD screens, and there is speculation that it will be 1.5GHz LTE. But, who knows when it will come out....

you clearly said Bionic "doesnt sport new processors" and i told you it does. OMAP4> Snapdragon its newwer.

if you like power> battery life. Go root it and unlock it to 2Ghz.
2Ghz OMAP4 will destroy 2.5 Ghz Snapdragon.

charlie310 · Sep 5, 2011

BringItSon said:
you clearly said Bionic "doesnt sport new processors" and i told you it does. OMAP4> Snapdragon its newwer.

if you like power> battery life. Go root it and unlock it to 2Ghz.
2Ghz OMAP4 will destroy 2.5 Ghz Snapdragon.

Your reading comprehension clearly needs some improvement. I clearly said "it should sport the latest processor". the 1.0GHz OMAP4 is not the latest processor. You missed my point too. Please, read again:

BringItSon said:
I thought I made my complaint pretty clear: the Bionic should have a 1.2 Ghz Exynos/Omap4 processor instead of a 1.0Ghz one. To spell it out: 1.2>1.0.

Nowhere do I mention the Snapdragon processor, so I don't know why you keep talking about it. LOL.
Nexus Prime is rumored to sport a OMAP 4460 (1.5GHz). If the Prime comes out next month with that processor and LTE support, obviously, buying the Bionic would be stupid.

jroc · Sep 5, 2011

BringItSon said:
you clearly said Bionic "doesnt sport new processors" and i told you it does. OMAP4> Snapdragon its newwer.

if you like power> battery life. Go root it and unlock it to 2Ghz.
2Ghz OMAP4 will destroy 2.5 Ghz Snapdragon.

With the Bionic, it wont be as simple as rooting and overclocking it to 2Ghz. If the bootloader isnt unlocked, there might be only so much OCing you can do to it without a custom kernel. But..with the strides that were made with the Droid X1 its still possible to run a custom kernel on it. We gotta hope some devs are interested in the Bionic.

charlie310 said:
Your reading comprehension clearly needs some improvement. I clearly said "it should sport the latest processor". the 1.0GHz OMAP4 is not the latest processor. You missed my point too. Please, read again:

Nowhere do I mention the Snapdragon processor, so I don't know why you keep talking about it. LOL.

Nexus Prime is rumored to sport a OMAP 4460 (1.5GHz). If the Prime comes out next month with that processor and LTE support, obviously, buying the Bionic would be stupid.

Ok....if the processor speed is really important to someone, a deal breaker...I could see your point. What about folks that for whatever reasons just like Motorola, or just dont like Samsung? Its not so stupid then.

Having a choice of what to buy is never stupid... What matters to you might not matter to the next person. There are folks that consider no notification light a deal breaker.. Yea, something as simple as that.

If anything, the iPhone 4 and WP7 showed us Ghz, specs isnt the end, all be all to a phone being nice. WP7 has probably the most fluid UI I've ever played with, with most using last gen Snapdragons. And the iPhone 4 with its 800Mhz cpu...before WP7 came iOS was considered probably the most smoothest, fluid UI out.

BringItSon · Sep 5, 2011

charlie310 said:
Your reading comprehension clearly needs some improvement. I clearly said "it should sport the latest processor". the 1.0GHz OMAP4 is not the latest processor. You missed my point too. Please, read again:

Nowhere do I mention the Snapdragon processor, so I don't know why you keep talking about it. LOL.
Nexus Prime is rumored to sport a OMAP 4460 (1.5GHz). If the Prime comes out next month with that processor and LTE support, obviously, buying the Bionic would be stupid.

you clearly lack ability to think... we were just comparing Snapdragon 1.5 ghz vs OMAP4. and before that you werent even talking about type of processor. you were just whining about clock speed.

according to your logic, buying nexus prime will be very stupid as well because by the time Nexus Prime comes out we will hear rumors of mysteriously powerful phone with unspecific rumored specs.

But you know what?? not buying because "oh there will be better phone" is even more idiotic because there always will be better phones coming out in the future.

either way, i am done wasting my breadth on you. lol @ "rumored spec". SGSII was rumored to be here 2 months ago on verizon. Bionic was rumored to be here beginning of this year. Nexus Prime is rumored to be Exynos processor or Snapdragon or OMAP4460. i guess you not have the ability to understand what "rumored" means.

charlie310 · Sep 5, 2011

jroc said:
Ok....if the processor speed is really important to someone, a deal breaker...I could see your point. What about folks that for whatever reasons just like Motorola, or just dont like Samsung? Its not so stupid then.

Having a choice of what to buy is never stupid... What matters to you might not matter to the next person. There are folks that consider no notification light a deal breaker.. Yea, something as simple as that.

How could anyone not like Samsung's sleek design, AMOLD screen, and easy rooting?

You're right. What I meant was for me, it would be stupid.

Kelmar · Sep 5, 2011

Come on guys... let's stop the bickering and get back to the point of the thread

tehsusenoh · Sep 5, 2011

charlie310 said:
How could anyone not like Samsung's sleek design, AMOLD screen, and easy rooting?
You're right. What I meant was for me, it would be stupid.

I have a problem with plastic phones. They just don't last.

Easy rooting? Well every Motorola phone is rootable.

jroc · Sep 5, 2011

charlie310 said:
How could anyone not like Samsung's sleek design, AMOLD screen, and easy rooting?
You're right. What I meant was for me, it would be stupid.

Hey...cant argue with those 3 things, lol. My first Android was a Droid 1 , got it early last year, so I know all about the custom ROM, kernel thing.

Super Amoled +....if I could custom build my phone....as of right now it would probably have that screen.

BringIt did have a point tho about future phones. I know some ppl that got a Droid 1 when it launched and has skipped everything else in between so far...and are still skipping. I cant do it...lol My plan is whatever phone I get....I will just break my PC so I wont stumble into anymore rumored phone threads.

Thats my plan and I'm sticking to it!!!

OutOfPhase · Sep 5, 2011

What was the title of this thread? I forgot by the time I got to the bottom.

jroc · Sep 5, 2011

dfib said:
What was the title of this thread? I forgot by the time I got to the bottom.

lol...Back to our regularly scheduled program:

002 - YouTube

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vs2TkhLQle4

You can see them from the source links in the OP, just want to get the thread back on track..

stueycaster · Sep 6, 2011

My problem was I still didn't have a smart phone and there were threats of tiered data coming from Verizon. I had to act fast so I could get an unlimited plan. I bought the Droid Charge. I knew there would be better phones coming out soon but they wouldn't make it under the unlimited data deadline.

I guess I have to be satisfied with my DC. After installing Voodoo, EP1Q and GBE 1.9RC2.3 it really is a pretty good phone. I'm happy with it. I would rather have waited til September, Bought a better phone and still had unlimited data though. Darn you Verizon.

I guess that's what I get for demanding the best cellular coverage available. My friend's HTC Sensation 4G is said to be better too but you have to be on another carrier. He's on T-Mobile. Another friend has an HTC Evo and he still doesn't have 4g with Sprint. At least I have unlimited, fastest 4g available with a pretty good phone. I'm OK with it. Darn you Verizon.

bsems1000 · Sep 6, 2011

BringItSon said:
uh.. not quite.

its 7-8 hours if you are using it NON STOP... which is quite impressive.

so for general daily use, you dont have to worry about batter that much unless you use the phone very very heavily.

also, i would like to note how great the camera looks while it is filming moving objects.

From the vid it showed 15% Idle and 27% stand-by. With 20% remaining at what....5and change batty life?(I forget what it showed)

Thats a total of 42% of not using your phone right? Doesnt look like that user in the vid performed non stop usage.

stueycaster · Sep 6, 2011

MOD NOTE = Removed quoted post

It's OK. I really am happy with my Charge since I re-did the software in it. I do love the display. I plan to upgrade the Class 2 SD card that came in it to a higher class. They say a class 4 is a big improvement and they fly with a class 10. I'll do some more research before I get one though.

I appreciate the advice but I'll stick with what I have. There will soon be an update for the custom rom that I am running. I'm not much of a gamer and don't have a reason to do a lot of serious multi-tasking. Also though the DC only gets 700 or 800 on quadrant in stock form I have gotten 1690 after the Voodoo Lagfix. I really think it's running pretty good.

Also with normal usage it's been unplugged for 11 hours and still has 77% battery.

The Bionic would probably have been nice though. We'll see.

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