Root What's happening on the rooting scene.

colchiro · Nov 19, 2011

Not much.

[DEV] Current Progress and Guides - xda-developers ... Good summary.

Android Development - xda-developers Discussion of details that are summarized in first link.

Kindle Fire has been rooted, but it has less ram (512, vs 1,000) and no sdcard and users report it isn't as smooth as NT.

Source has been released from B&N so might shed some help with root/roming.

Apparent locked bootloader isn't going to help with rom development.

colchiro · Nov 19, 2011

Another good link: Kindle Fire has root and CWM - and why that doesn't matter - xda-developers

radtechy · Dec 12, 2011

IMO the main thing is the root access. If the bootloader is locked that just means no custom rom & kernels correct?

nathanotis · Dec 12, 2011

That's the way I understand it, Rad. I still have faith that the Devs will find a solid exploit for the bootloader on the NT. For now, a rooted tablet is enough for me... Honestly, I think for the price, even if the bootloader is never cracked, I'm still down.

colchiro · Dec 12, 2011

Locked bootloader just means that the kernel has to stay on what it's on now (GB I assume).

It doesn't mean it's not impossible, it might just mean a lot more work for the devs.

radtechy · Dec 12, 2011

How reliable is Albert's rooting method? Any problems?

SoonerLater · Dec 14, 2011

radtechy said:
How reliable is Albert's rooting method? Any problems?

It's as easy as riding an elevator and about as fast.

aceofspades626 · Dec 31, 2011

[Full Mod + Root + OTA block] Snowball-mod: Full Modification Root [12/31/2011] - xda-developers
Still not bootloader, but much closer than anything we've had till now.
A little more thorough root built off Albert's with some CM7 bits in there.

Coronach · Jan 4, 2012

Is there an elegant/simple way around the driver issue? Every method I have seen (which is only, like, 3, so I don't claim an exhaustive knowledge) relies on re-installing the Android USB drivers, and every compluter I have has had multiple android devices attached to it, and unlike my USUAL Microsoft experience, Windows (XP and 7) are being really good (read: bad) about automatically installing the device drivers and stopping the whole show before it gets started.

aceofspades626 · Jan 4, 2012

Nothing I've read has avoided that issue all together.
This forum was a great help to me.
In the end Usbdview was the thing that got it done for me.
For reference, should anything go wrong after you've rooted and a restore should prove necessary (I had the 1.4.1 OTA sneak through), the driver dance proved unnecessary. Zergy worked just fine without playing that game again.

AnotherHiggins · Jan 4, 2012

I don't know about elegant, but it's definitely doable. I've had 3 different Android devices connected to my Win 7 desktop and was able to get this working.

First, here's a video of someone getting the drivers set up.

And here's the thread over at XDA that the video is following. (The video is actually linked in that thread.)

Two additions to the video:

1) I'd try this first, because this is what finally got it working for me:

Go to Start Button > Right click Computer > Properties > Advanced System Settings > Hardware tab > Device Installation Settings

Select "No, let me choose what to do"
Select "Never install driver software from Windows Update"

Save Changes

(You'll probably want to change that back after you're done)

2) If you need to nuke the drivers, then try Usbview, which was pointed out by yumms in that same thread.

[Edit: And this is why we don't start a reply, walk away for a few hours, then come back and submit. I hadn't seen aceofspades626's post before submitting my own.]

Coronach · Jan 5, 2012

Yours was actually more in line with what I needed, AnotherHiggins. I never quite caught how to get to the right menu in the system settings. The options always looked wrong and I was chosing the closest one. My windows experience is mostly with XD, and I'm not familiar with all the details of 7.

I just killed the auto driver update, and I'll try the install again when I get up in a few hours (worked all night, now I'm fried, and that's exactly the wrong time to do techy things to expensive electronic devices)

Thanks!

Coronach · Jan 6, 2012

No dice.

Despite having the above-listed items checked in the Advanced System Settings menu, Windows is still installing the drivers and telling me, if I try to do it manually, that the best driver is already installed.

Open the pod bay doors, HAL.

AnotherHiggins · Jan 6, 2012

You shouldn't already have any driver installed. Use USBDView to delete Android drivers on your computer. Then check Device Installation Settings. Then plug in the NT.

You want to see an exclamation point in a triangle in the Device Manager, which indicates that there is no driver loaded.

Coronach · Jan 6, 2012

Yeah, I did that. I used usbdeview to eliminate anything with Nook or Android associated with it, including all unnamed "mass storage devices", made sure the aforementioned stuff was checked, then plugged in the NT. It promptly installs the drivers.

I may have an old Windows XP box in the basement. Android didn't exist the last time it was plugged in. If I still have it, I'll give ita shot tomorrow afternoon.

Mike

Coronach · Jan 6, 2012

Ok. Now we've advanced to the next problem. I dug out my old xp box, went through the process with it and got further. The it brought up the nook with the error symbol, and I instructed windows to install the usb drivers from the root pack. It started, said the drivers were unsigned/verified, asked me to stop or continue. I chose continue. It went through the install process and ended with a failure message, saying the new drivers could not be installed. I then tried running nook and zergy, and as I suspected it went nowhere.

Any ideas?

Thanks,

Mike

Coronach · Jan 11, 2012

Update: I never did get Win7 to cooperate, and I guess my old XP computer was to elderly to handle the driver install. I borrowed a laptop running XP sp 3 from a friend and I'm in business. Once I got the drivers to install it was cake; no harder than rooting a phone and easier than some of those, too. Hat tip to the revs who pulled it off, the issues are completely on windows' end.

Mike

nathanotis · Jan 12, 2012

I just spent a LONG time pouring over a ton of posts I don't understand over @ XDA. Long story short, it SOUNDS like custom roms aren't far away. Those guys are pretty amazing!

nathanotis · Jan 13, 2012

Bootloader cracked and next steps - xda-developers

They're working on CM9!!

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=21345423&postcount=29

Beatlesfan · Feb 5, 2012

CM7 is going to be posted today on XDA. I'm staying up late waiting for it.

CM9 is also in the works, they've made great progress. Here's the thread for CM7: Building CM7 for the NT - xda-developers

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