Official HTC Incredible Thread

tluv00 · Mar 25, 2010

Scrops said:
in my experience when dealing with people who are spouting off at the mouth with a context, volume or choice of vocabulary that i don't care for i've found that ignoring them is often the most effective and least stressful way to address the problem. of course there are always exceptions to the rule, but i've finished digressing...

on an on-topic note, the tweets to the various verizon accounts are getting more numerous and venomous by the minute. one can only hope that SOMEone will take notice.

Probably just a bunch of CSRs who just happen to know about Twitter and have a scripted list of responses. Poor kids.

KRD · Mar 25, 2010

The exhibition floor started at 1:30 eastern time maybe verizon will announce it soon.

NKT · Mar 25, 2010

woodraskam said:
It still comes back to why would Verizon cripple the service that they have the most interest in, if its functionality that is obviously feasible?

I'm inclined to go with their explanation: quality control.

Honestly, that's the only reason that I can think of.

haticK · Mar 25, 2010

verizon will announce the incredible but then say that its only for their execs and we all have to buy a devour

obi5683 · Mar 25, 2010

The floor is open and the Day 3 keynote is over.....anything?

hal1 · Mar 25, 2010

Sigmund Droid said:
Over 3-G you can make Skype to Skype calls only. If you're a big Skype user and I'm not, that's great. You can take advantage of it. But for me it has no real value, as I don't use Skype and wouldn't be calling anyone that does.

Imeant what about voice quality over 3G

Nashdroid · Mar 25, 2010

woodraskam said:
It still comes back to why would Verizon cripple the service that they have the most interest in, if its functionality that is obviously feasible?

That's a VERY good point. Maybe they're going on the fact that most people probably don't know about Fring, and they know that if they really promote Skype and let it come native on the phones, which we've seen with the rom of the Incredible being disected by Wonderbread, that most uninformed customers will just simply use Skype and incur charges in the process.

tluv00 · Mar 25, 2010

KRD said:
The exhibition floor started at 1:30 eastern time maybe verizon will announce it soon.

While I would love to hear this a day three announcement while most of the media is gone and people have already packed up is un-likely but I will still keep my fingers crossed.

tluv00 · Mar 25, 2010

I bet MM is playing with the Incredible right now. That or he went berserk after finding out it was the Devour (or N1) and slaughtered the entire VZW store staff and customers and is currently held up in the back curled up in a ball rocking back and forth saying 'Why VZW....why did you force my hand in all of this?"

trellis27 · Mar 25, 2010

tluv00 said:
While I would love to hear this a day three announcement while most of the media is gone and people have already packed up is un-likely but I will still keep my fingers crossed.

and what steal the thunder from the Motorola Devour :thinking:

Scrops · Mar 25, 2010

NKT said:
I'm inclined to go with their explanation: quality control.

Honestly, that's the only reason that I can think of.

regarding Skype I'm thinking that they cripple it so there are more opportunities to have one (or both) of the calling parties use their pool of minutes as well as offload the traffic off the data pipes to enhance availability.

the last thing verizon wants is for people to buy the cheapest voice plan possible and then utilize Skype for all of their voice needs.

MTechie · Mar 25, 2010

Sasquatch said:
Okay, okay, I know bumping yourself is lame, but I'm serious. Why shouldn't I go to Sprint and save $$? Would I save? I don't want to wait for the EVO but why shouldn't I go to whichever offers the next great 3G phone. I want snapdragon and sense UI but bare Android 2.1 isn't so bad....

In reference to your first post, tho Sprint is a CDMA service they do not just jump to Verizon towers and receive equal service. I live in a large area, Northern Rockies, where Verizon has great service but Sprint has marginal service. If it were as easy as piggybacking on the Verizon network Sprint would sell service here, which they do not.

NKT · Mar 25, 2010

Scrops said:
regarding Skype I'm thinking that they cripple it so there are more opportunities to have one (or both) of the calling parties use their pool of minutes as well as offload the traffic off the data pipes to enhance availability.

the last thing verizon wants is for people to buy the cheapest voice plan possible and then utilize Skype for all of their voice needs.

Unless the plan is to introduce Skype as addition to their calling plans as the network transitions from a minutes based ecosystem to a data bucket one.

Breukdance · Mar 25, 2010

Nashdroid said:
That's a VERY good point. Maybe they're going on the fact that most people probably don't know about Fring, and they know that if they really promote Skype and let it come native on the phones, which we've seen with the rom of the Incredible being disected by Wonderbread, that most uninformed customers will just simply use Skype and incur charges in the process.

From what I understood from the original release was that the use of Skype was was not going to count against your talk time or data. I will look back at that but I'm pretty sure thats what I remember in the release.

DobbsianYeti · Mar 25, 2010

Okay- here's a question about skype voice calls- I just installed it on my BB- it makes a call to my laptop and says who is calling. The other way around- making calls via skype to my phone from my laptop, it doesn't identify the call from a particular skype contact- it only gives a generic number and says that the call is from skype. What's the point of this? Why isn't the caller identified?

Functionality seems hamstringed...

NKT · Mar 25, 2010

Breukdance said:
From what I understood from the original release was that the use of Skype was was not going to count against your talk time or data. I will look back at that but I'm pretty sure thats what I remember in the release.

Skype to Skype doesn't count. Skype to non-Skype comes out of your regular minutes. Which if you're doing that, why not just make a regular call...

Sasquatch · Mar 25, 2010

Scrops said:
the last thing verizon wants is for people to buy the cheapest voice plan possible and then utilize Skype for all of their voice needs.

umm..I'm planning on getting the cheapest plan possible and using gVoice for all my voice needs...does that count?

...nevermind, I'm dumb today.

Nashdroid · Mar 25, 2010

tluv00 said:
I bet MM is playing with the Incredible right now. That or he went berserk after finding out it was the Devour (or N1) and slaughtered the entire VZW store staff and customers and is currently held up in the back curled up in a ball rocking back and forth saying 'Why VZW....why did you force my hand in all of this?"

You are one funny son of a bitch! Classic!

jcald27 · Mar 25, 2010

trellis27 said:
and what steal the thunder from the Motorola Devour

I hope that was meant sarcastically. You do realize that this is an 'HTC Incredible' forum not a 'verizon wireless' or 'good business practices' forum. Most people here, myself included, wouldn't mind shafting most other new phones if it meant the Incredible's release.

micromack · Mar 25, 2010

Wouldn't that suck if 'the box' contained the HTC reps low carb lunch, lmao.

NKT · Mar 25, 2010

DobbsianYeti said:
Okay- here's a question about skype voice calls- I just installed it on my BB- it makes a call to my laptop and says who is calling. The other way around- making calls via skype to my phone from my laptop, it doesn't identify the call from a particular skype contact- it only gives a generic number and says that the call is from skype. What's the point of this? Why isn't the caller identified?

Functionality seems hamstringed...

woodraskam · Mar 25, 2010

NKT said:
Unless the plan is to introduce Skype as addition to their calling plans as the network transitions from a minutes based ecosystem to a data bucket one.

Now that makes more sense......get people introduced to Skype while data is all you can eat. Mmmmmm, tastes good you say. Then one day you wake up and it's pay by the pound, but you're already used to the all you can eat model and they've already trained you to use more data.

Now, if they introduced Skype and provided Wifi right away and allow Wifi transfers which would reduce network stress. It'd make sense in the short term, but as long as it's never provided, there's a lot less anger about it than if it was provided and later removed to force customer's to use VZW's data instead of their wifi which is still all you can eat.

I was thinking short term greed, when Skype is a long term greed proposition.

trellis27 · Mar 25, 2010

jcald27 said:
I hope that was meant sarcastically. You do realize that this is an 'HTC Incredible' forum not a 'verizon wireless' or 'good business practices' forum. Most people here, myself included, wouldn't mind shafting most other new phones if it meant the Incredible's release.

Yes Very sarcastically ...

Breukdance · Mar 25, 2010

NKT said:
Skype to Skype doesn't count. Skype to non-Skype comes out of your regular minutes. Which if you're doing that, why not just make a regular call...

Gotcha...I have to imagine the future goal here is every phone is going to convert to VoIP and your cell company is going to basically be a wireless network provider. 100% data

burner79 · Mar 25, 2010

trellis27 said:
and what steal the thunder from the Motorola Devour

What thunder? That thing is lame. :rolleyes:

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