Opinion about Nexus 5 availability through carriers?

morgankslade · Oct 7, 2013

I am in Detroit...so I am guessing that it wouldn't matter.

ben7337 · Oct 8, 2013

jova33 said:
With the newer phones it seems they're doing more with less. Meaning the processors work way better and use less juice. The S4 has a 2200 or 2400 mAh battery, and will last all day, where my GNex would only last 4 hours on 2100

Does your Gnex have an extended battery? If not it only has an 1800mah battery. The S4 has a 2600 mah battery. That's 800mah more than the Gnex, or nearly 50% more battery life.

In other words, if your Gnex lasts 12 hours on battery, the S4 should last 17 hrs 20 mins. A significant time longer, assuming similar power draw.

Rxpert83 · Oct 8, 2013

Its more than just battery size. There were pretty huge jumps in power efficiency between the gnex and the following years flagships.

Its clear as day anytime I activate my gnex with an extended battery when I'm used to the s3

jhawkkw · Oct 8, 2013

The Nexus 4 has the same sized battery as the OEM extended battery. However, it lasts nearly twice as long due to the advancements in the power efficiency of the chipset and radios.

JunBringer · Oct 8, 2013

nitramus said:
For people who does not always have the money going through the carriers could be the best option. But it also depends on the price google sets this new phone.

jhawkkw said:
I'm not sure of what the Google Play Price of the Nexus 4 was, but the 8GB was $300 and 16GB was $350 in the states. In comparison, the Galaxy Note III is 300 subsidized by the carriers here. I would expect the Nexus 5 to be somewhere around that same price point.

What he said^

Sure you can get free phones now with subsidy, but I doubt many people on here do that, cause they want something that's not obsolete a month later.

saptech · Oct 8, 2013

jhawkkw said:
The at&t go phone 60 dollar plan has unlimited minutes and texts with 2gb of data with no extra fees or taxes other than sales tax.

Is tethering included? What about tethering with Tmobile $30 prepaid plan?

Thnx.

jhawkkw · Oct 8, 2013

saptech said:
Is tethering included? What about tethering with Tmobile $30 prepaid plan?

Thnx.

I know for a fact it's not included on the T-Mobile 30 dollar plan, though you can add a tethering package if I recall correctly. As for the AT&T 60 dollar plan, I think tethering may be allowed. I don't see anything in the TOS that prohibits it from limited plans, only from unlimited plans.

nitramus · Oct 9, 2013

Does anyone know why it took so long (at least here in canada) for the carriers to offer the N4 through subsidy? It has been available only for a few months, sometime during the summer.

locoandroid · Oct 14, 2013

So big red will not be offering the nexus? How certain can this be?

jkc120 · Oct 14, 2013

locoandroid said:
So big red will not be offering the nexus? How certain can this be?

Trust me I want this phone on Verizon badly but there is literally 0% chance at this point, sorry.

jhawkkw · Oct 14, 2013

jkc120 said:
Trust me I want this phone on Verizon badly but there is literally 0% chance at this point, sorry.

Exactly. The LTE Nexus 7 actually supports Verizon's frequency, Verizon is bound by the open network clause of the block c spectrum, and they still won't activate the device on a new SIM. There's no chance of a nexus 5 on them considering there have been no fcc documents showing compatibility with their network.

jova33 · Oct 15, 2013

locoandroid said:
So big red will not be offering the nexus? How certain can this be?

On a scale of 1 to 10 with 1 being not likely and 10 being very likely, it's a -2

locoandroid · Oct 16, 2013

jova33 said:
On a scale of 1 to 10 with 1 being not likely and 10 being very likely, it's a -2

LOL, I hate so bad VRZ :-[

jkc120 · Oct 16, 2013

jhawkkw said:
Exactly. The LTE Nexus 7 actually supports Verizon's frequency, Verizon is bound by the open network clause of the block c spectrum, and they still won't activate the device on a new SIM. There's no chance of a nexus 5 on them considering there have been no fcc documents showing compatibility with their network.

So technically the S800 should support their LTE bands. Google likely had to disable them, similar to what they did for LTE on the Nexus 4 (though in this case specific bands and not the entire LTE radio).

I guess, in theory, someone could probably re-enable those bands and if a VZW simcard fits in it, it could work on Verizon as an LTE-only device. In theory...

slyd · Oct 20, 2013

Will I be able to use the phone on sprint and then when my contract is up use the same phone on T-Mobile?

jhawkkw · Oct 21, 2013

slyd said:
Will I be able to use the phone on sprint and then when my contract is up use the same phone on T-Mobile?

Hypothetically you should based on the FCC document. However, it remains to be seen how Sprint is going to handle it.

jhawkkw · Oct 21, 2013

jkc120 said:
So technically the S800 should support their LTE bands. Google likely had to disable them, similar to what they did for LTE on the Nexus 4 (though in this case specific bands and not the entire LTE radio).

I guess, in theory, someone could probably re-enable those bands and if a VZW simcard fits in it, it could work on Verizon as an LTE-only device. In theory...

Maybe, but Verizon might have a legitiment argument for disallowing access to the device if the FCC doesn't certify it for band 13 usage.

jkc120 · Oct 21, 2013

jhawkkw said:
Maybe, but Verizon might have a legitiment argument for disallowing access to the device if the FCC doesn't certify it for band 13 usage.

Agreed and I'm assuming they would block people they find doing it, but from a purely technical standpoint, I think it should be possible.

jhawkkw · Oct 21, 2013

jkc120 said:
Agreed and I'm assuming they would block people they find doing it, but from a purely technical standpoint, I think it should be possible.

Correct, though I'm sure you would need a sim card programmed to find band 4.

AndroidifyMe · Oct 21, 2013

If they do allow the Nexus 5 to be purchased through carriers as well, then Google needs to control everything except for the service just how Apple controls everything when it comes to updates for their iPhone. You can get an iPhone through Apple or carriers and Apple will make sure all updates and app releases etc are handled correctly. Only difference is the service. That's how Google needs to handle it if we do get that option. I'm not sure what the issue was trying to make that happen with the Galaxy Nexus when it was released on Verizon and Sprint. It had bloat and pretty much forgotten about. One brand. Control it. I also think this would help spread the devices around and not one source.

pseudoware · Oct 22, 2013

AndroidifyMe said:
If they do allow the Nexus 5 to be purchased through carriers as well, then Google needs to control everything except for the service just how Apple controls everything when it comes to updates for their iPhone. You can get an iPhone through Apple or carriers and Apple will make sure all updates and app releases etc are handled correctly. Only difference is the service. That's how Google needs to handle it if we do get that option. I'm not sure what the issue was trying to make that happen with the Galaxy Nexus when it was released on Verizon and Sprint. It had bloat and pretty much forgotten about. One brand. Control it. I also think this would help spread the devices around and not one source.

The experiment of carrier-specific variants, which the Verizon GNex was, is over for the Nexus program. If the N5 is available from a carrier, it will be the same device available from the Play Store, just like the N4 sold by T-Mobile. The only difference might be a build.prop change to give it some carrier branding or splash screen or whatever, but it will otherwise be the exact same device with all updates controlled by Google.

AndroidifyMe · Oct 22, 2013

pseudoware said:
The experiment of carrier-specific variants, which the Verizon GNex was, is over for the Nexus program. If the N5 is available from a carrier, it will be the same device available from the Play Store, just like the N4 sold by T-Mobile. The only difference might be a build.prop change to give it some carrier branding or splash screen or whatever, but it will otherwise be the exact same device with all updates controlled by Google.

There shouldn't be any carrier splash screen or anything different. You don't find that on an iPhone. You can tell by the carrier logo at the top in the status bar. That's all. They need to give this and future devices justice. One phone. Two tabs. All controlled by Google and ready to be purchased on the same day from the Play Store and Carriers. No second color options down the line and silly bs like that. They hop all over the place and it messes their image up.

flexyneat · Oct 31, 2013

Well, i hear T-Mobile should have it as early as tomorrow (Nov 1)

woodythegreat · Oct 31, 2013

I spoke to my LG Rep (I work at T-Mobile) and he said that T-Mobile will most likely get the Nexus 5 because Google and T-Mobile have a good relationship (Mainly cause T-Mobile was the first to carry the G1). I can also see AT&T having the Nexus 5 but honestly i dont see it coming to Sprint and especially Verizon cause you see how the Galaxy Nexus was a flop

jhawkkw · Oct 31, 2013

woodythegreat said:
I spoke to my LG Rep (I work at T-Mobile) and he said that T-Mobile will most likely get the Nexus 5 because Google and T-Mobile have a good relationship (Mainly cause T-Mobile was the first to carry the G1). I can also see AT&T having the Nexus 5 but honestly i dont see it coming to Sprint and especially Verizon cause you see how the Galaxy Nexus was a flop

The device has the hardware to support Sprint, and we've had leaks saying that Sprint will carry it, but I do wonder how it will all play out. I agree that there's 0% chance Verizon carries it though.

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