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Discussion in 'Android Devices' started by nicksdarkroom, May 30, 2010.

  1. nicksdarkroom

    nicksdarkroom Newbie
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    I'm using Advanced task killer app on my desire, it seems quite effective but i've read reports that it is totally unnecessary as the phone manages apps itself, however whenever i start ATK there are loads of app running in the background. Question is, should i bother with it or not?
     


  2. wuthton

    wuthton Android Enthusiast

    You are wasting your time. It has no effect on performance and practically no effect on battery life.
     
  3. LunarStorm

    LunarStorm Newbie

    I was recommended to have it by a member of staff so I might as well have it If they think it Is necessary. However, I do think It does help with cleaning up the phone.
     
  4. Evil_Munki

    Evil_Munki Newbie

    I'd like to know this too.
     
  5. galfwender

    galfwender Newbie

    There are lots of reasons to be using a task killer app, people shouldn't be so quick to dismiss.

    Sometimes after heavy use, certain settings pages, for example "Manage Applications" can take quite a while to load fully. A quick task kill before speeds this up.

    You might not just be using it for speed reasons. Maybe certain background apps are battery hungry and you want to make sure they aren't running when not needed.

    Or similarly, maybe some apps use a lot of data while idle. A task killer will stop them eating away at your data allowance.
     
  6. lekky

    lekky Lover

    Normally I tell people not to use one if they ask. This is because if you don't know too much about how android works, then using a task killer will cause you problems, even problems you don't realise.

    Having said that I use a task killer, but I ignore every single core service (everyone should do this), and I have about 20 other items on my ignore list.

    You really need to be smart about it, and in my view should only be used to kill those 3rd party apps that do not correctly apply their services (there are a few developers that don't seem to understand the android os either..)


    So in reply to this i'd go with no, you don't need it. There are apps running in the background but android itself can manage these. Try without and see for yourself :p
     
  7. Roze

    Roze Hiding behind a mystery

    Well technically the apps aren't 'running in the background' but are on 'standby' or 'idle' when they are not being used. They take up memory but are not actively using the CPU (check CPU%, should be 0). Why you don't need one is that Android OS, if it's low on memory and see some idle apps that you haven't used for awhile, the OS will end those tasks to free up space for tasks you're using. If you end a task prematurely, the OS will open the app from scratch again, thus using more resources than had it continued the app from an idle state.

    Only reason you need an ATK is if the app doesn't have an 'exit' function (pressing the back button doesn't work) or you know you won't be using the apps after you finished with it.

    FAQ: Why You Shouldn’t Be Using a Task Killer with Android Geek For Me – Android CDMA Sprint Hero
     
  8. azz

    azz Well-Known Member

    I agree, add ignore to every Android system app running and kill the 3rd party rating at RAM
     
  9. gibbs1984

    gibbs1984 Android Expert

    As everybody else has said, basically you don't/shouldn't need one but after using my Desire for a while without it I just ran in to too many problems with 3rd party apps, and not having a Task Killer left me without control really, if something hung I couldn't get rid of it.

    Personally I'd like a simple Force Close button like I do on my desktop.
     
  10. lekky

    lekky Lover

    Lol, you're in luck. There is an app called force close button that adds a button to your notification bar (only visible when dragged down), just pull it down and close. Been using it since the day I got my Hero ;)
     
  11. Roze

    Roze Hiding behind a mystery

    So it's basically an 'exit' app then ;) lol
     
  12. chris100575

    chris100575 Well-Known Member

    I was using ATK, however I uninstalled it on Thursday last week and I have not noticed any performance difference in my phone one way or the other. That to me would suggest that I don't need it.

    I'll see how I get on and have a rethink if my phone starts getting laggy.
     
  13. mr.hachi

    mr.hachi Member

    I installed a task killer first thing, but then I read the stories about it actually not helping and lowering the battery. I uninstalled it and found my phone to become quite bogged down and slow to respond as the memory filled up and it was deciding what to close and do next. So I put in another one today (ES Task Manager) and it all seems fine, it ignores services automatically and you obviously have to put certain programs on ignore but for things that don't need to be open it keeps the phone going and running full speed ahead.
     
  14. roadRUNN3R

    roadRUNN3R Lurker

    lekky, do you think you could compile a list of the core apps i should ignore? or just write out what you're ignoring? :) i think what you're saying makes perfects sense... in fact, i do the same, but i'm not really sure which core apps i should choose to ignore... i put people in my ignore list, since i noticed it just keeps restarting, so there's really no point in killing it :D

    also, i noticed that some apps - when running for a few hours/days - like friend stream, footprints, stocks, when i kill one of these, they take down a whole lot of other apps with them and even restart HTC Sense, hence why i put the HTC Sense process in my ignore list, but that doesn't seem to be helping... a list of the core apps that we should ignore would really help...

    what'cha think? :)
     
  15. scooby_r

    scooby_r Newbie

    Yup..i'd like to find out what are the apps that i should include to the ignore list.
     
  16. WozzaTT

    WozzaTT Well-Known Member

    Is it necessary to press the back button to close an app or will it close a short time after pressing home anyway?
     
  17. rtb35

    rtb35 Android Enthusiast

    Unfortunately this app is not compatible with froyo and according to the dev it will never will be,so it is only a short term solution.
     
  18. SUroot

    SUroot Extreme Android User

    It's rubbish but the functionality is sometimes necessary. Saving battery - rubbish. Constantly monitoring uses battery. Background tasks... they're in the background. I.e. they're being system managed at 0% CPU.

    However, sometimes the browser gets itself in a tiz and needs a quick kill before using it again. Sometimes rogue apps don't behave properly. Kill em.

    Other than that it has no merit.

    Lots of otherwise useful apps (systempanel or astro) have task killers built in. Use one of these as tyeyre not designed to constantly monitor and waste battery (well, systempanel does.but its .monitoring all sorts)
     
  19. denno69

    denno69 Lurker

    I use it for one thing.

    My phone takes about 3 hours to shut down when I turn it off so before I turn it off I kill all tasks using atk. When I do this it takes about 10 secs to turn off.
     
  20. kboya

    kboya Android Enthusiast

    Have u tried to work out which app(s) affect a shutdown/restart? I dld swype the other day n it killed my battery in no time. A simple restart fixed the issue, but its difficult to know if u dl a lot at 1 time.
     
  21. peds8045

    peds8045 Lurker

    Well i've been using ATK for about two weeks now and since i started i get a lot more usage out of my battery. With light usage i've been getting 3.5 days before i need to think about a re-charge, i.e. down to about 20%. If you use the airplane mode overnight also it improves the battery usage.:D

    I would be reluctant to remove it now:)
     
  22. haris9

    haris9 Member


    watch post# 2 video below the link, hope it would help you to solve your confusion.
    http://androidforums.com/support/1473-do-programs-keep-running-background-how-stop-all.html
     
  23. EmperorKabir

    EmperorKabir Well-Known Member

    long shutdown times and program mess ups can be solved with a task killer. everyone needs one as far as i'm concerned unless they are very very lucky with all of their apps every single time throughout the life of the phone.
     

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