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  1. cashmere_cat

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    I'm a bit confused - I've read through the first posts on xda on CyanogenMod7 and there is no reference to needing to be s-off. But when I read the guide that post links to (http://wiki.cyanogenmod.com/wiki/HTC_Desire_(GSM):_Full_Update_Guide) , the steps seem to be backup, gain s-off, flash.
    So do I need to be s-off?
    I also don't see an optional a2sd add on, so I assume this is built into CM7?
    And ext3 will work?
    Yeesh, some of the xda ROM threads are hard to follow....
     

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    hi CC

    another day another rom for you ;)

    i agree they can mess with your brain a bit cant they

    i wouldnt have thought you would need s-off just to install a rom - i though s-off was an extra you could do - but dont know much about it

    if cm has a2sd i would expect it to work with you partitiion - but then again im assuming which can be bad :D

    sorry cant give better assist :/

    good luck

    cheers
    dan
     
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    I'll let the experts answer the S-Off question (I did mine to off, as why not?!).

    A2SD+ works on CM7 out of the box, and I'm using Ext4 with no problems - so Ext3 should work.

    Rob
     
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    lol, well you know what they say....curiosity gets the cat ;)
    Now that I've flashed a few, and learned from a few mistakes, Im curious to see what all the roms are about, and what makes them different from the others. Then I will pick a favorite one to stick to (ya riiigghhht! lol)
     
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    Now that I think about it, I believe you can't resize your partition tables without S-Off. One of the reasons I did it was to free up more space in my phone's Data partition.

    With CM7 I was able to increase my Data partition from the default 145Mb to 287 Mb!

    Rob
     
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    Yes, that's the answer. You can install and run CM7 perfectly well without S-Off. It will however leave more than 100MB of space unused in the system partition, and if you want to reclaim that for yourself you need to be S-Off to do that.
     
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    No rom that I know of needs s-off but with many of the non-sense ones you wont get much of the benefits without it
     
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    So to clarify -- it will still use the ext3, just 100M less of it? So where I now have ~700M left -- with CM7 and no S-off, I would only have 600M available to me?
     
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    No, you would have 800M on the SD ext, because 100M of it would be on your phone instead.
     
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    Repartitioning your internal storage won't affect your sd-ext usage at all. All it does is change the amount of /data space you have.

    However, even with a2sd+ you still use some internal space (/data), since it's only part(s) of the app, the apk and (usually) dalvik cache, which are on the sd-ext. App data, and libraries (if any), remain in internal. So increasing the size of /data means that you can install more apps, or store more app data, than you could otherwise.
     
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    hi CC
    me too! :) oxygen at the mo but it is very like redux so thinking of
    CM7. think that might be a bit sense like for me,but hey :-D

    keep on rom'ing :)

    cheers
    dan
     
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    CM7 is not Sense-like, don't worry! ;)
     
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    :) cool thanks Hadron.really tempted now ;-)
     
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