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Hummingbird processor vs Apple A4 processor??

Discussion in 'Android Lounge' started by Eazail70x7, May 28, 2010.

  1. Eazail70x7

    Eazail70x7 Android Expert
    Thread Starter

    I've heard that theae 2 processers are very similar but obviously there must be a few differences. Does anyone know where I can find a comparison between the 2 or can someone compare them for me here?

    I'm just curious really. Both are really good I hear.
     


  2. lyons238

    lyons238 Android Enthusiast

    hummingbird made the a4. my guess is it's the same or almost the same just with a different name for apple.

    both are 1ghz

    edit: and if i remember correctly the 3gs currently has an a8 running at less than 1ghz. doesn't the galaxy s use the a8? which must mean the galaxy s is using an overclocked a8 or that the iphone 3gs is using an underclocked a8

    hope that helps

    edit again: i just read that the the hummingbird processor in the galaxy s is an a8 core modified to make performance gains. the a4 is also an a8 core modified. basically they have a license to use ARM technology. they take that technology and implement their own ideas for performance gains. the a8 is the main core samsung/hummingbird seems to be using. they just modify that core to fit the specific device. for instance the galaxy s apples ipad, iphone 3gs, and the iphone. 4 all use a modified version of the a8.
     
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  3. Eazail70x7

    Eazail70x7 Android Expert
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  4. lyons238

    lyons238 Android Enthusiast

    no problem

    just fyi - apparently the hummingbird puts up a good fight against the snapdragon as far as speed. but it uses less power. both are good imo.
     
  5. IOWA

    IOWA Mr. Logic Pants

    Hummingbird has better GPU
     
  6. lyons238

    lyons238 Android Enthusiast

    ya forgot to mention that as well.

    i dont play many games so the snapdragon doesnt turn me off. but do you think the better gpu in the hummingbird would make the phone smoother? like switching between screens for instance?
     
  7. mkeath

    mkeath Well-Known Member

    yeah, but you won't notice it at all
     
  8. Eazail70x7

    Eazail70x7 Android Expert
    Thread Starter

    So basically there isnt much of a difference between the a4, snapdragon and hummingbird processors besides the gpu that they use right?
     
  9. IOWA

    IOWA Mr. Logic Pants

    Pretty much, and subtle differences here and there. Factors like RAM ans software would make the most difference with user experience.

    Tapatalk. Samsung Moment. Yep.
     
  10. Smg

    Smg Android Enthusiast

    The Hummingbird is more power effienct than the Snapdragon which for me at least is more important than a slight speed gain or better gpu.
     
  11. IOWA

    IOWA Mr. Logic Pants

    That's what extra batteries are for =D

    But I seriously can't wait until induction charging becomes something they put into phones as a standard feature.

    Tapatalk. Samsung Moment. Yep.
     
  12. PaulMcCartney

    PaulMcCartney Android Expert

    The ARM Cortex A8 "Hummingbird" is superior to the one found in the iPhone 3GS (it's nearly twice as powerful).

    Simply because it runs on a 45nm process, consumes less power and has a higher clock speed.

    Samsung provides Apple with the processors in their phones. The CPU in the 3GS is also an ARM Cortex A8.
    It runs at 600Mhz.
     
  13. lyons238

    lyons238 Android Enthusiast

    yeah but there all still modified a8s correct?
     
  14. IOWA

    IOWA Mr. Logic Pants

    Pretty much.

    Tapatalk. Samsung Moment. Yep.
     
  15. Eazail70x7

    Eazail70x7 Android Expert
    Thread Starter

    Just to clarify, I am talking about the same exact processor found in the ipad :)
     
  16. supersaki

    supersaki Android Enthusiast

    the a4 uses the hummingbird processor. The A4 is a SoC (system on chip) which means it has pretty much everything your computer would have on the chip itself. The hummingbird is the cpu portion on that chip.

    Apple A4 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia gives a pretty good explanation.

    I haven't found a place that lists all the Samsung's SoC specs, but supposedly it has the better GPU...
     
  17. opticalshadow

    opticalshadow Well-Known Member

    How modified can they make one processor without. Changing it? Would tossing in an old beef up process in their new phone hurt them as other phones move onto better price. Since rhizome is already getting beefed?
     
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