Root Root now, or root later?

[codezer0]

So, somehow, I managed to pick up one of these phones.

I definitely want to be able to run a Marshmallow based ROM on it, because it is supposed to enable full Band 12 for T-Mobile.

That said, it came out of the box with 5.1.1 already. So, naturally I want to root. But I currently don't know whether I should root now while it's still on Kit Kat, or update and root later? Which would be better to do at this point?

 

[Thom]

Thread moved to sub-forum for discussing root-related subjects.

... Thom

 

[The_Chief]

Depends on whether you're interested in any warranty you may have, as rooting the phone will void it. I don't know why you're still on 5.1.1 (which I'm pretty certain is Lollipop, not KitKat), but my Moto X Pure is on Marshmallow and has been for some time.

 

[codezer0]

At present, there are many reasons I need to root. Not least of which system level ad blocking and closed framework require it.

Further, already have a problem where it refuses to charge from a Qualcomm fast charge certified external battery. And the common factor found from my research is that this only happens with non rooted mxp phones. It doesn't occur on a rooted unit.

I just picked it up today. Saw it was on 5.1.1.

So rooting needs to happen. I just need to know if it is easier to root first and then flash marshmallow or update to marshmallow and then root. And how to root this phone. Make sense now?

 

[Jfalls63]

I was already on 6.0 when I rooted. I used the guide at XDA and installed TWRP 3.0 then flashed the SuperSu zip. I tried systemless root and kept TWRP read only but had problems restoring back ups when trying new ROM. Finally went with traditional root with new ROM.
I think the idea behind systemless is that it will not effect OTA's but I plan on staying on custom.

 

[codezer0]

So this guide ( http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x-style/general/guides-how-to-guides-beginners-t3200808 ) will work even if I do the OTA update to marshmallow?

 

[Jfalls63]

I went by this guide for systemless root on M but it refers you back to your link to unlock the bootloader.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=64624664&postcount=454

 

[Jfalls63]

If your still on lollipop the guide in your link Should be good to go.

 

[codezer0]

Okay, that's good to hear. But will I have problems updating to Marshmallow? Does the OTA marshmallow still work with Xposed in particular?

 

[Jfalls63]

Not sure on the OTA. The ROM TrueXPure started out as 5.1 then he updated to 6.0. Thread for ROM is over 500 pages so far and since I came to it late I skimmed through most of it up to 400 then read all from there. Features already in ROM that I wanted, ad blocker and hotspot. Reading more on Xposed for shutdown options in Gravity box and other tweaks but haven't installed framework yet.

 

[Jfalls63]

When you unlock the bootloader you get a "Bootloader Unlocked" message each time you boot phone. There is a boot animation zip available that gits rid of it but doesn't bother me. Also like the Nexus boot animation that is in the ROM and don't want to go back to Motorola's.

 

[codezer0]

Well, following the steps, I got the bootloader unlocked, I got TWRP installed, but when trying to install the .apk for SuperSU, it won't show it in TWRP. What's up with that? So, how do I root now?

 

[Jfalls63]

I copied SuperSU 2.65 to SD card. In TWRP select install. Navigated to SuperSU zip by selecting "up a level " to get to external SD. Found SuperSU zip and selected it. Swipe to install.

 

[codezer0]

I did copy the SuperSU.apk to the root of the SD card in the MXP now. Navigated to it, it refuses to show at all. The only thing it lets me select as installable is the backup I made initially.

 

[Jfalls63]

What version of TWRP did you install?

 

[codezer0]

Version 3.0.1.0-clark. Matched MD5, too.

 

[Jfalls63]

I went with 3.0.0-0. Can see and select zip in mine.

 

[Jfalls63]

If you select storage in bottom left it switches from internal to external sd

 

[codezer0]

Well, for what it's worth, I decided to go with the SuperSU install that was part of TWRP. That then had me download the app part of it from the Play Store, and now I do appear to have successful root. Now I jsut need to know how to pass it Xposed Framework and then I should be good to go, I would think. Well, I would prefer having this on Marshmallow to enable Band 12 LTE, but I'd like to have this one tuned up for a pretty well set up backup.