Help Battery life and battery management

[novox77]

Wow. Talk about off-topic. OK - my avatar is guaranteed to only require slightly more power to display on an LCD that a lighter one.

But think about the savings for ppl on OLED screens. Some day if OLED becomes the dominant display tech, we'll all need to use dark avatars to save the environment. A bright avatar is going to be the equivalent of driving a hummer.

ok, maybe not.

 

[apinkel]

I checked that in another thread - looks like they're using the exact same 4G SoC radio at 65 nm as in the Evo.

If true, I'd expect little or no change in poor 4G battery life.

That's a bummer. Hopefully they've found other ways to improve 4G battery life (driver tweaks, power mgmt, etc.).

 

[cmanbrazil]

The op makes good a good point. I would have taken mine back as well, but I am not leaving sprints prices, and I didn't see a better option. Plus I was coming from a htc diamond, and anything was a step up.

This issue of denying a drawback about a device because you feel like you have to defend it is weak. You can love your phone, and realize it has strengths and weaknesses. People have to pick sides like they think they belong to a political party or something.

To the issue of battery life on the evo. I bought the siedo 3500 battery and am much happier. I can usually make it to the end of the day without a problem. This includes youtube, netflix, web surfing, some game play, texting and some phone usage. Some days I seem to do a lot and the battery lasts well, and other days it seems to drain the same when I do little.

I hope siedo comes out with a 3500 battery quickly for the 3d

 

[apinkel]

I was glad to see that HTC stuck with a design on the E3D that allows for an extended battery and associated back cover (unlike some of their phones that have moved to slot loaded batteries w fixed aluminum backs). Hopefully the battery life is good enough w the stock battery that it's not needed but I'm glad the option (hopefully) will be available.

 

[BigMamma]

I was glad to see that HTC stuck with a design on the E3D that allows for an extended battery and associated back cover (unlike some of their phones that have moved to slot loaded batteries w fixed aluminum backs). Hopefully the battery life is good enough w the stock battery that it's not needed but I'm glad the option (hopefully) will be available.

The EVO has a standby time of 146 hrs and the EVO 3D has a standby time of 355 hours.

 

[markgbe]

i for one could not care less about battery life. I'll get if a flip phone if i want battery life. I want performance. I dont care if i have to plug it in one a day or even twice a day.

Saying "Battery life will make or break this phone" is like saying gas mileage will make or break the the next Lamborghini....

 

[BigMamma]

i for one could not care less about battery life. I'll get if a flip phone if i want battery life. I want performance. I dont care if i have to plug it in one a day or even twice a day.

Saying "Battery life will make or break this phone" is like saying gas mileage will make or break the the next Lamborghini....

LMAO. I assume some people complain because they are not around an outlet all day long or they are too cheap to buy a car charger.

 

[apinkel]

Battery life is an important aspect to any smartphone for me... I understand this isn't a flipphone but I need to be able to make it thru a day without having to charge the phone. I don't have the luxury of being around an outlet or sitting in a car all the time.

And I hope those mfr's specs on battery life are correct (more than double the Evo 4g)... but I'll be waiting for some real world reports.

 

[drexappeal]

i for one could not care less about battery life. I'll get if a flip phone if i want battery life. I want performance. I dont care if i have to plug it in one a day or even twice a day.

Saying "Battery life will make or break this phone" is like saying gas mileage will make or break the the next Lamborghini....

LOL...I wouldn't go that far. Almost everybody can afford a smartphone nowadays. I bet less than 1% of the US could afford a Lamborghini or ANY high end sports car in that price range.

 

[novox77]

I think a lot of people just want to see the battery not drain so much when they aren't doing very much on the phone. Most people understand that battery life has to take a hit when in use. The ROM can definitely be configured better out of the box in a battery-friendly way.

Even a parked and idle Lamborghini shouldn't empty the tank that quickly.

 

[drexappeal]

I think a lot of people just want to see the battery not drain so much when they aren't doing very much on the phone. Most people understand that battery life has to take a hit when in use. The ROM can definitely be configured better out of the box in a battery-friendly way.

Even a parked and idle Lamborghini shouldn't empty the tank that quickly.

I agree 100%. Coming from my Touch Pro, the EVO 4G battery life was 10X's better. The only complaint I had, after having the phone for almost 1 year now, is the battery drain while the phone isn't being used. Granted, JuiceDefender seemed to work very well for me (as far as that was concerned), but having held off on rooting (just because I'm too lazy to make sure I back up everything possible), I'd love for that to be a non-issue on the EVO 3D. And that would definitely sway me towards upgrading, rather than sticking with my current EVO.

 

[jdsingle]

I can't believe medium usage is 20 txt sent and 20 received. I easily go through hundreds of texts a day not including google talk messages. Combine that with my need to use navigation here and there along with browser. Just no possible way.

 

[BigMamma]

Battery life is an important aspect to any smartphone for me... I understand this isn't a flipphone but I need to be able to make it thru a day without having to charge the phone. I don't have the luxury of being around an outlet or sitting in a car all the time.

And I hope those mfr's specs on battery life are correct (more than double the Evo 4g)... but I'll be waiting for some real world reports.

I have to question you because if you are not around an outlet and you don't have the time to top your battery off in the car on your way to work, during the lunch drive, or on your way home then what are you doing at work all day? So you are playing on your phone all day long at work? If not, then the battery will last for way more than a day. Can I have your job? I'm sorry, but if anyone phone is draining and you barely use the thing then you configured your apps wrong. My phone will sit in idle mode and drain battery power very slowly and I'm not even rooted. If I'm using the navigation system on the phone I have my phone plugged into my car charger. Everyone knows the GPS takes a bite out of the battery.

 

[apinkel]

I never said my phone was draining. I said I need my phone to make it thru the day on a charge. I've chosen my last two phones specifically because they were the android phones with the best battery life I could find. I don't want to be tethered to an outlet.

I don't play on my phone. I use it to see what emails I have in between meetings, to view calendar events and to make calls. During the week at work I could plug in at times. But I get up and go a lot and don't want to have to mess with plugging/unplugging my phone between meetings.

On the weekends, I'm outside working on projects, working on houses, working on my yard, etc.. I'm not always around a charger while I'm working on that stuff.

Sure, I could get by with a phone that needs to be plugged in to make it thru a day, but for me it's a priority not to have to deal with that kind of a PITA.

Also, for the record, I'm not making any predictions about how this phone will do battery-wise, but I'm also not going to place much merit in marketing or guesses either. I just want to hear real world reports... and those don't exist yet.

 

[BigMamma]

I never said my phone was draining. I said I need my phone to make it thru the day on a charge. I've chosen my last two phones specifically because they were the android phones with the best battery life I could find. I don't want to be tethered to an outlet.

I don't play on my phone. I use it to see what emails I have in between meetings, to view calendar events and to make calls. During the week at work I could plug in at times. But I get up and go a lot and don't want to have to mess with plugging/unplugging my phone between meetings.

On the weekends, I'm outside working on projects, working on houses, working on my yard, etc.. I'm not always around a charger while I'm working on that stuff.

Sure, I could get by with a phone that needs to be plugged in to make it thru a day, but for me it's a priority not to have to deal with that kind of a PITA.

Also, for the record, I'm not making any predictions about how this phone will do battery-wise, but I'm also not going to place much merit in marketing or guesses either. I just want to hear real world reports... and those don't exist yet.

Making a few calls, checking a calendar, and downloading email doesn't stress the battery to depletion by the end of the day unless you have 10 meetings a day and you download emails 20 times a day.

 

[apinkel]

I Never said it did.

 

[brownhornet]

Actually having an Evo ill just say this.. most of the time when you see people claim to have crazy long battery life its mainly because they dont use half of the features of the phone. Like disabling background data, 4g, not using facebook, twitter, etc. I dont care what type of method you use, if you actually USE the phone and all of the features itd be dead by noon without a charge. And this is coming from someone that actually uses one of the SBC kernels. Battery life is simply terrible unless youre not using it to its potential.

They most definitely need to have that in order with the 3D.

 

[brownhornet]

LMAO. I assume some people complain because they are not around an outlet all day long or they are too cheap to buy a car charger.

Or some people think that it shouldnt be a necessity to carry a charger around with you everywhere you go without having to disable half the features on the phone.. and you shouldnt.

 

[drexappeal]

Actually having an Evo ill just say this.. most of the time when you see people claim to have crazy long battery life its mainly because they dont use half of the features of the phone. Like disabling background data, 4g, not using facebook, twitter, etc. I dont care what type of method you use, if you actually USE the phone and all of the features itd be dead by noon without a charge. And this is coming from someone that actually uses one of the SBC kernels. Battery life is simply terrible unless youre not using it to its potential.

They most definitely need to have that in order with the 3D.

I actually USE the phone, but the only time it'll drain quickly is when I am on the phone constantly w/o putting on standby for 4 hours. In that case, it definitely drains quickly, but who realistically uses their phone like that except for people that either 1) work in the tech world, 2) work in business where majority of what they do is on the road on their cell, or 3) students that have time to kill.

What exactly would classify "using the phone to its full potential?" I could almost guarantee you that the general consumer, which is likely the majority as far as EVO owners are concerned, doesn't use the phone to its "full potential." And the general consumers will ALWAYS be the corporations' targets because that's the majority of the money. The minority (people that are tech savvy / forum members) are the ones that I'd peg to actually know how to reach the phones "full potential" as you say.

But I am curious as to what exactly you mean by that more specifically. I'm not even sure that I use the phone to its "full potential"...LOL.

 

[BigMamma]

Actually having an Evo ill just say this.. most of the time when you see people claim to have crazy long battery life its mainly because they dont use half of the features of the phone. Like disabling background data, 4g, not using facebook, twitter, etc. I dont care what type of method you use, if you actually USE the phone and all of the features itd be dead by noon without a charge. And this is coming from someone that actually uses one of the SBC kernels. Battery life is simply terrible unless youre not using it to its potential.

They most definitely need to have that in order with the 3D.

I don't disable background data. Doing that doesn't really help with the battery, depending upon what apps you have loaded on your phone and if you keep 3G, 4G, or Wifi on all the time. Who walks around with 4G on all day long? Do you drive with your lights on during the daytime? Why would you leave a radio on that you are not using? If that's the case, keep all your apps open too. I don't use facebook or twitter because those things are just fads. What happened to Myspace? Yeah, what...who. If I want to talk to communicate with someone I will send them a text, shoot them an email, or just call them. Don't need a social networking site to do those things.

 

[VGPOP]

According to Engadget, they've destroyed phone into a "million pieces" then due to battery life.

 

[wake69]

I am not worried about battery. they said 14 hrs full charge to 7% i will be around a charger within 14 hrs

 

[brownhornet]

sorry but i have to laugh at this. You left a whole phone and a carrier over a battery issue LMAO! Alot of use don't experience battery problems even without root. Some people just don't know how to manage their phones. It's like giving a teenager a ferrari and expectin him to obey all speed limits.

plus.......

Evo has interchangable batteries. You can buy chargers and batterries on ebay for $5. I've gotten two batteries and an external charger for $10 on ebay. I don't have the slightes problem with battery. There's no need to, I just swap out my battery if I need to. Android isn't dummied down so If you need a phone that will do nothing then stick to iphone.

His argument is actually VERY understandable. The battery almost was enough to make me take my Evo back too and if there had been any better options available on Sprint I most definitely would have. Apple got the hint and upgraded their battery for the iphone 4 and in general they are way better at lasting throughout the day than Evo's are. And I get sick of the fact that people think that it should actually be normal to have to carry around 15 spare batteries in your pocket or charge the phone.. unplug it.. wait til it runs down.. charge it again just to get it to last.

I also think its ridiculous that some people HAVE to basically disable half of the features of the phone for it to last past lunch. I always hear people tout these "my phone lasts 20 hours on heavy usage" claims but its mostly BS. I've tried every rom/kernel combo there is but the main way people actually pull this off is to have basically EVERYTHING on the phone.. sometimes even including 3G..OFF. That's just not acceptable these days for phones you're paying $500+ for. And its especially annoying when you use your phone for work and travel.

Many people dont, but I actually preferred the push notification method of the iphone over the Android one. The apps didnt always have to poll and check for updates all the time and saved battery life. The push we have still doesnt seem to be 100% functional.. especially with facebook. And ive only seen ONE out of the tons of twitter apps we have that uses real push notifications and that's issimo.. an app in closed beta.

Obviously, HTC knew the battery thing was an issue which is why they increased the size of the battery. And I think the whole thing of having to turnoff my facebook, twitter, background notifications, etc is just a copout for HTC not doing what they shouldve been doing and putting in a bigger battery. Honestly, I wouldve much rather them had found a way to put in a 2000mah battery than put in 3D.

 

[brownhornet]

I don't disable background data. Doing that doesn't really help with the battery, depending upon what apps you have loaded on your phone and if you keep 3G, 4G, or Wifi on all the time. Who walks around with 4G on all day long? Do you drive with your lights on during the daytime? Why would you leave a radio on that you are not using? If that's the case, keep all your apps open too. I don't use facebook or twitter because those things are just fads. What happened to Myspace? Yeah, what...who. If I want to talk to communicate with someone I will send them a text, shoot them an email, or just call them. Don't need a social networking site to do those things.

Well you do know most newer cars do keep at least part of the headlights on when the car is on whether its day or night right? And I could use your same rhetoric and say who walks around with 3G on all day. I would venture to say MOST people do. As far as 4G, I dont turn it on at all because with the penetration issues its pretty worthless for me. But even without it, I could turn the screen on on my Evo right now, browse the web for a few minutes and just watch my battery trickle like a balloon with a hole in it. THATS my complaints.

And YOU may not need social networking, but TONS of people do.. thus the main reason twitter and facebook are IMPLEMENTED into the phone.

 

[legacy]

Engadget slams the battery life saying they were "hardly doing anything" on the phone. Except for taking 80 photos (most in 3D), which in ALL the reviews has been shown to be one of the largest drains on the phone's battery. And it still lasted 14 hours.