Alarm not working when phone switched off?


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  1. Lefthand

    Lefthand Well-Known Member This Topic's Starter

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    Am I the only one having this problem? I'm quite new to this handset, but I can't see what I'm doing wrong. the alarm only goes off if the phone is left switched on. Any ideas?
     

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    kabbie_mcfeely Well-Known Member

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    Do you mean, if you power off the pone ?

    or

    Do you mean when the phone goes into "sleep" mode ?
     
  3. Lefthand

    Lefthand Well-Known Member This Topic's Starter

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    When I power off the phone. Usually alarms work even when phones are powered off, at least that's always been the case with my previous SE, Nokias, LGs etc.
     
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    kabbie_mcfeely Well-Known Member

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    I would have to guess that if there is no power then nothing works.

    If the phone is powered off you wouldnt get calls, text or anything else.

    I never turn mine of except when rebooting after installing a new rom or theme.
     
  5. mjcritchie

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    Does anyone know if this has been fixed in the latest ROM?
     
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    It's not a bug. There's nothing to fix.

    If the phone is fully powered off then it's off. Period.

    If you want the alarm to work you need to be in sleep mode at the very least. WM is like that, the iPhone is like that, Android is like that. Palm is like that.
     
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    It would still be very useful to have the alarm come on, even if the phone is switched off.

    Although I could just use an alarm clock! I suppose I'm spoiled by the multitude of things my Hero is able to do.
     
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    No phone i've ever owned has done *anything* when powered off.
    Are you sure youre not confusing powered off with standby?
     
  9. Nyphur

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    No he's right. My old SE w890/w910 you could completely power off, and the alarm would still come on.
     
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    The Hero is a Smartphone... usually you never switch off a smartphone. It takes A LOT of power to turn it on. It would be much more power saving to enable the airplane feature when you don't need your hero to be connected anymore (for instance during the night).
     
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    Good idea.
     
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    My Nokia 6155 powers itself on to sound an alarm, thats what I use it for.
     
  13. Lefthand

    Lefthand Well-Known Member This Topic's Starter

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    Let's put this one to bed. The alarm WON'T work if powered off. Period. Unlike "ordinary" mobiles. However, the alarm function will work in standby mode, or in flight mode. The latter is useful if you don't want to be woken up by calls or message alerts in the middle of the night. Night night :rolleyes:
     
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    Lefthand Well-Known Member This Topic's Starter

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    One more thing: If you're using Apps killers make sure you're not killing the clock!
     
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    I would like to say if i turn somthing off i want that device to be off. By having somthing turn on when its off defeats the object of an off button. Think about a theater, cinima or airplane.

    Stick it in airplane mode if you want the phone to still do things.
     
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    I concur.
     
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    I think this guy is not a suitable person to consult for mobile phone problems. Any phone I have bought would sound it alram when the phone is turned off.
     
  18. ticho

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    Any smartphone as well? It would have to boot up its OS and start necessary system services for sound playback first, which might be a bigger battery drain than leaving it in standby overnight. Especially if you leave it in airplane mode, as someone already suggested.
     
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    Thanks for your opinion, i'll be sure to ignore it.
     
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    No phone I've ever owned has had this feature, and frankly, it would annoy the hell out of me to have an alarm go off after I'd turned my phone off when going to the cinema or something.

    Using Android I'll go to flight mode for such functionality, and Offline profile (or a custom profile) using my old Nokia.

    Off should be off, not mostly off.
     
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    The Ericsson R380 - the first Symbian OS based smartphone would turn itself on when an alarm or Calendar reminder was due. It inherited this functionality from the Psion range of hand-held computers for which the OS was originally written. Later models (P800 onwards) from the newly-formed Sony Ericsson did not have the feature. When the phone was off it was indeed off, not merely sleeping.

    The reasons for this change included the possibility of the phone waking up into non-airplane mode when you were in fact flying (in the days when people believed that mobile phones would make a plane drop out of the sky.

    Regards

    Pete
     
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    My previous phones have turned themselves on in the morning to sound my alarm. Was great for when i was camping and needed to get up but didnt have a charger for my phone. Wish the Hero did this.
     
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    It all depends what you mean by "off" and "on". Remember here we are dealing with a smartphone, which will do all sorts of things older phones can't. In order to make sure it is not doing anything at all you can power it off - i.e. you hold down the off switch until the menu comes up and then choose "Power off". That does what it says on the tin - it turns off the power to everything and without power the phone has no functions running. So no operating system, no phone calls, no alarms ..... nothing. When you switch it "on" the power is returned and the o/s boots itself up (eventually).

    All 3 of the smartphones (2 WM and now the Android) I have owned had this function.

    On the other hand if you turn it "off" with a short press that switches off the screen and puts most of the apps into suspension. But the operating system and core functions continue to run. So if things like phone calls come in or alarms happen then it will turn itself "on" and do what it is supposed to.

    So set your alarm, check the volume, and then switch the phone "off" (not Power off) with a short press, and then you will be woken by your alarm, which will switch the phone "on". That is what I do and it works all the time. And, if you want to save power before you switch it off, you can turn on airplane mode (as others have suggested). If it does not work then you have not set the alarm or volume properly, you have run out of juice, or the phone is broke.
     
  24. dublevay

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    I think you may have resolved my problem with the alarm! D'oh! :D
     
  25. 02keilj

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    As others have said, previous phones we have owned have been able to boot from a powered off state (as you describe above) to sound an alarm.

    I believe it works because there is always a little bit of power being used in the off state to control the internal clock or a small processesor or whatever. When that clock gets to the time of the alarm it turns the phone on, and then sounds the alarm.
    If the hero however does not have an internal clock or prossesor that is powered when the phone is off, it would not be able to boot from its off state to sound an alarm.
     
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