Yeah, I know. We've got a lot of battery threads on this forum. A bunch of whiners, we are. Took a whole day yesterday just to get through most of 'em. Looks like we've got a lot of really vocal people on the two extremes. Some of you say that you're getting supa sweet battery lives from the stock HTC batteries (and I'm jealous). Others say that your stock batteries barely get you to lunch even after you've turned off all the phone's nifty features, like Wi-Fi and Friendstream (not jealous). Personally, I'm in the middle camp. So here's my question: Is there anyone here who did all that battery prep stuff when they first received the phone (charged it up fully, used the phone till the battery died, blah, blah), but still sees lousy battery life? Is there anyone here who didn't do any of that stuff, but is getting a full day and a half (or whatever) between charges? I'm just trying to figure out once and for all if that prep stuff made the difference. Obviously, this question is only for those who use the phone normally with the stock battery. If you got a heavy duty Seidio or if you only use your phone to make phone calls and have it set to never auto-update anything, the answer's pretty obvious.