Froyo 2.2 on the Incredible?

[jayno20]

Um,,, $200 with the contract.

As I said I am just a little disappointed. It's like buying a Dell then having a new Windows come out but having to wait for months for Dell to let me upgrade.

I guess what I'm saying is HTC should have had 2.2 beta and have the upgrade already done or close to it.

I'm not an Apple fanboy/whiner it just seems a little backwards compared to what I'm used to.

You came from an iPhone, how are you "used" to getting updates more often? I don't get it... iPhones hardly ever get updates.

 

[FlyPenFly]

I think he means more like when there was a major iPhone OS release, the iPhone 2.5G, 3G, and 3GS were all upgradeable at the same time.

 

[Qbfinest83]

2.2 really takes the cake. I will stick with the Incredible for a year if HTC can promise 2.2 on it by end of June. Otherwise, returning this phone next week and getting a Samsung Galaxy S.

Most 2010 HTC Android phones will get Froyo ...in 2010

Here's the official word:

[...] if your phone was launched this year, we will most likely offer an upgrade for it to the Froyo version. This includes popular models like the Desire and Droid Incredible as well as hotly anticipated phones like the Evo 4G, MyTouch slide and upcoming models. We will announce a full list of phones and dates once we are closer to launching the upgrades. We are working closely with Google and our other partners to ensure we have the earliest access to everything we need to provide a complete and solid Sense experience on Froyo. We expect to release all updates in the second half of this year but can't be more specific yet.

Hopefully Verizon doesnt take take to long loading there crapware on the phone so we can get a update quick
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[jwm2]

2.2 really takes the cake. I will stick with the Incredible for a year if HTC can promise 2.2 on it by end of June. Otherwise, returning this phone next week and getting a Samsung Galaxy S.

Why do you NEED it so quickly? And why do you think the EVO will ship with 2.2? I just don't see how the EVO would benefit 95% of us here.

 

[FlyPenFly]

Yeah, I guess we'll see on the exact dates. I mean December is part of 2010 as well.

It's exciting times with such amazing hardware right now.

New iPhone 4G, Samsung Galaxy S, EVO 4G, and holy crap even Verizon got a good phone with the Incredible.

 

[melophat]

I can assure you HTC has had the 2.2 Beta, probably even the alpha. They are Google's biggest pushers so the relationship is pretty close. It's a matter of making sure they can deliver it to their flagship phones the Incredible and the EVO in a reasonable amount of time.

not only that, but verizon also has really stringent testing that they require done before they will release an update.. so not only does the 2.2 sense update have to go through htc quality control, but it also has to go through verizon's insane quality control..

 

[FlyPenFly]

Why do you NEED it so quickly? And why do you think the EVO will ship with 2.2? I just don't see how the EVO would benefit 95% of us here.

EVO won't ship with 2.2... not sure where you think I said that. Neither will the Galaxy S. But if I'm going to wait an unspecified length of time for a OS upgrade, I'd rather have the much better hardware in the Galaxy S.

 

[FlyPenFly]

not only that, but verizon also has really stringent testing that they require done before they will release an update.. so not only does the 2.2 sense update have to go through htc quality control, but it also has to go through verizon's insane quality control..

Which is kind of funny when you consider that they missed basic problems like all the choppy voice issues a lot of us are having and the replug battery thing.

 

[jwm2]

Which is kind of funny when you consider that they missed basic problems like all the choppy voice issues a lot of us are having and the replug battery thing.

No problems with either of those here. Oh well.

 

[lowtech]

not only that, but verizon also has really stringent testing that they require done before they will release an update.. so not only does the 2.2 sense update have to go through htc quality control, but it also has to go through verizon's insane quality control..

Yes indeed... like that Storm!

 

[Akitakoi]

not only that, but verizon also has really stringent testing that they require done before they will release an update.. so not only does the 2.2 sense update have to go through htc quality control, but it also has to go through verizon's insane quality control..

And people say Apple is "closed". At least the fanboys are smart enough to jailbreak (root) them quick, lately before the update is even released.
That's what I'm used to

 

[DenverRalphy]

Coming from a Blackberry device I am used to seeing frequent OS updates. Occasionally RIM would release a milestone update that you could download from their servers, or you could wait for your carrier to release one OTA. My Storm for example was running the latest official OS from RIM as Verizon's last official version was older than the last official RIM version.

Does HTC work the same way? I know Verizon can sometimes drag their feet to release their branded version. I'm not referring to leaked beta releases, just official releases.

 

[schwarma]

Um,,, $200 with the contract.

As I said I am just a little disappointed. It's like buying a Dell then having a new Windows come out but having to wait for months for Dell to let me upgrade.

I guess what I'm saying is HTC should have had 2.2 beta and have the upgrade already done or close to it.

I'm not an Apple fanboy/whiner it just seems a little backwards compared to what I'm used to.

Timelines:
Looks like Apple updates with major features about once a year.
The iPhone Timeline - Tao of Mac

Unsure of the original 1.0-1.5 update timelines for Android, but it looks like there have been updates from Sep09 (1.6 SDK) to ~now (2.2).
Android - Tao of Mac

 

[aesirx]

...I'd rather have the much better hardware in the Galaxy S.

You have fun with your Daewo... err... Samsung. I'm sure it'll have no issues whatsoever

 

[FlyPenFly]

You have fun with your Daewo... err... Samsung. I'm sure it'll have no issues whatsoever

Have fun with your Chinese car? Haha.

If there was a worthy made in Germany or Made in USA phone, I would seriously consider buying one. Unfortunately, we only seem to have designed in USA Nexus and iPhones.

 

[jayjay1122]

And people say Apple is "closed". At least the fanboys are smart enough to jailbreak (root) them quick, lately before the update is even released.
That's what I'm used to

You are also talking about comparing a company (Apple) that builds the phone and the OS and only needs to support one device and one carrier (in the US).

The Android OS is installed in several pieces of hardware with different capabilities running on several networks. The comparison is almost futile as each carrier uses different mobile technologies (CDMA, GSM, etc...) and each hardware vendor uses different iterations of the OS with different RAM, Processors and expandable memory options.

Rooting each device is a separate task! If Android was running on one device and one carrier, I would gather it would be rooted as quickly as the Iphone!

Be patient!

 

[AGWednesday]

And people say Apple is "closed". At least the fanboys are smart enough to jailbreak (root) them quick, lately before the update is even released.
That's what I'm used to

This makes no sense.

Yes, people say Apple is closed. That's why iPhones need to be jailbroken to allow it to do things Android phones can do by default. The speed with which the phones are jailbroken by the community at large has zero to do with whether or not Apple is closed.

Would I like Froyo on my phone today? Heck yeah! But faulting Android for the fact that it isn't on my phone on the day they announced it would be ludicrous. The OS isn't even out yet.

And as far as all these due dates people are giving for Froyo on the Incredible, it's all speculation. We don't know anything. It might come out tomorrow, or next week. Maybe it'll be out next month. And every person who posts "Yeah, right!" or the like is just guessing.

Here's an idea: let's wait for official word before we start making update comparisons.

 

[colnago]

Here is a preview of 2.2:

Android 2.2 'Froyo' beta hands-on: Flash 10.1, WiFi hotspots, and some killer benchmark scores -- Engadget

http://www.blogcdn.com/www.engadget.com/media/2010/05/froyo-os-full-2010-05-2002-35-11-rm-eng.jpg

 

[IOWA]

I switched over from an iphone because I thought Android would be more "open". When I bought my Incredible I didn't know it has a custom UI and that it would take months to update to newer versions of Android.

Just a little disappointed.

Oh no not months! Iphone is only updated once per YEAR. Last time I checked, months is less time than a year. And the last iphone update shouldn't even count, it didn't do anything besides break jailbroken phones. So it's been two years since a real iphone upate, and in that time android has gotten several. We also get smaller updates to important apps like maps/goggles etc. Regularly.

And and there is no doubt in my mind vzw will kill the wifi hotspot feature in 2.2 and substitute their own version for $40/mo+.

Well then allow me to chime in. I switched from my iPhone 3gs in November and picked up a MOTO Droid. I had unlocked all of my iPhoneS and I rooted

Good for you. You are definitely the minority son. I can't get my one friend that has an iPhone to even recognize Android as a worthy competitor.

Oh and as for your friends, they aren't avery technically inclined bunch, now are they? And no,having icrap and xbox live doesn't make you technically inclined. I'd put the incredible/evo up against any iphone, any day, and we'll see who will win.

Tapatalk. Samsung Moment. Yep.

Tapatalk. Samsung Moment. Yep.

 

[Akitakoi]

And and there is no doubt in my mind vzw will kill the wifi hotspot feature in 2.2 and substitute their own version for $40/mo+.

Android is not open when manufacturers stick there own stuff on it and control how it's used.

I looks like Android is going to add ads, so on every screen we will start seeing ads?

It's the Ads, Stupid
Aside from the requisite technical hiccups, Google's presentation today was surprisingly assured. And never was it more assured than during the AdSense mobile presentation. Here we saw Google reveal something a lot like what Jobs showed with iAds, right down to the "users don't like to leave their apps" mantra.

But Apple's presentation was about a new ad platform, which let's be frank: Ugh. You've got a pretty framework for ads, Apple? Users don't care because, well, we hate ads. Devs weren't too excited, because Apple's system was new, unproven and, well, not terribly interesting.

Google's presentation was more shrewd: They didn't have to linger on the mechanism of the ads, because for Google, AdSense mobile is just a bridge for their hundreds of thousands of preexisting advertisers, to every phone the company touches. When focusing on these gadget and product side of things, it's easy to forget that Google is foremost an advertising company. Apple can present pretty ad platforms all they want, but Google has a proven record of selling.

 

[FlyPenFly]

Its a bit crappy you can't remove crap apps like CityID or Footprints unless you root.

 

[IOWA]

And and there is no doubt in my mind vzw will kill the wifi hotspot feature in 2.2 and substitute their own version for $40/mo+.

Android is not open when manufacturers stick there own stuff on it and control how it's used.

I looks like Android is going to add ads, so on every screen we will start seeing ads?

It's the Ads, Stupid
Aside from the requisite technical hiccups, Google's presentation today was surprisingly assured. And never was it more assured

Try getting the source code from iphoneos from apple and you'll see how open android is. Try downloading pdanet on an iphone without jailbreak. Try downloading porn on an iphone. Try downloading four different browsers for your iphone, or three different media apps. Try viewing flash. I could go on all day...

Its a bit crappy you can't remove crap apps like CityID or Footprints unless you root.

Name one platform you can remove stock apps natively without modification.

Tapatalk. Samsung Moment. Yep.

Tapatalk. Samsung Moment. Yep.

 

[amarryat]

Yes indeed... like that Storm!

Ugh. That was crazy. Thank God for the leaks.

 

[Akitakoi]

Back to this new Ad program, I wonder how much personnel information Google is going to collect from my phone? Names and contact information? I wonder how intrusive these ads are going to be?

On second thought maybe I don't want 2.2!

Ok, done ranting.

 

[elborak]

Ok, done ranting.

Promise?