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  1. Android_J

    Android_J Well-Known Member This Topic's Starter

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  2. Baldilocks

    Baldilocks Well-Known Member

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    There are several anti-virus anti-spyware apps in the Market as well. :)

    I use Lookout Mobile Security
     
  3. ace35

    ace35 Well-Known Member

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    so for us geeks around here, is there some logs that we can look at to see where our phones are sending information, as i just looked at my on bill, and all i see is wap.celluar.com for where my info is going.
     
  4. Android_J

    Android_J Well-Known Member This Topic's Starter

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    Not sure how anit-virus could have prevented this. It's more of a trojan. Tons of apps have access to contacts, internet, etc. for Android so nothing really out of the ordinary.

    Lookout was the firm that found the issue, and only through forensics. Unfortunately, they found it after the program was downloaded "anywhere from 1.1 million to 4.6 million times. The exact number isn
     
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    t-readyroc Well-Known Member

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    Blaming Google for this would be like blaming Microsoft for your having downloaded scareware.
     
  6. NukaCola

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    No I do think some of the blame falls on google. The app/wallpaper was downloaded via *their* market place, people trust it because googles name is behind it. They should have a mechanism in place to prevent outright fraud.

    Now if you sideload (or use appbrain) thats a different story.
     
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    t-readyroc Well-Known Member

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    Some, yes, but not all. I stand by my scareware analogy.

    If that stupid pop-up window comes at you that's made to look like Windows & tells you your system's infected & that you'd better run a scan, "NOW!" You're going to have to accept some blame if you go ahead & click that "OK" button...

    I dunno what this app looked like, but I've seen some of the SPAM apps in the market & they look pretty dang craptastic/shady right off the bat. Gotta take a moment to think about what you're doing if you're looking to install something like that.

    This is precisely why I use AppBrain... heh
     
  8. Prim8

    Prim8 Well-Known Member

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    Yeah it's not like apple didn't have apps that stole your contact list.
    It wouldn't have been an issue if people looked at the screen that tells you what the program is going to access.
    Google gave people the tools to prevent this people just don't use them.
     
  9. jeremytanner

    jeremytanner Well-Known Member

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    Yeah, I was downloading live wallpapers the other day and found a few that wanted internet access, and I was like, Umm, yeah, *that* isn't going on my phone....
     
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    Simba501 Well-Known Member

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    Does it have a negative effect on your battery life?
     
  11. jazzman09

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    I don't trust any apps in app store
     
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    I just downloaded the AT&T Mywireless App and it has the access to format my SD card and report back on my phone model to match it up with my data plan. I'm sure an upstanding corporation like AT&T would never use their format ability to erase my phone. In fact I'm making this post from my phone ri


    <connection lost>
     
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    tekonus Well-Known Member

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    A mechanism in place to prevent fraud... hmmmmm... You mean like the part before you click install that tells you what every application you install has access to? If you give a live wallpaper access to all your info, AND internet access to send it off... thats your fault. Thats like blaming the security guard who was standing 10 feet away from you about being robbed when you just took your wallet out and handed it to someone.

    Also, if you think Apple's app approval process is any better... they approved a flashlight app that had secret tethering capabilities. They didn't realize until it was smeared across the internet. You would think that a simple look at the code would tell that something is amiss with this flashlight app...
     
  14. Android_J

    Android_J Well-Known Member This Topic's Starter

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    What Apple app stole contacts?


    True. But what about when someone comes out with, say, a SMS app that doubles as spyware? You would give an SMS app full contact and internet access. It's not always going to be easy to spot malware such as a wallpaper app needing contact access.

    Tethering didn't steal info and send it off to China. And Apple were quick to pull it. The android wallpaper app was downloaded by 1 to 4 million people (anybody find it odd that Android Market doesn't keep track of actual downloads?) and wasn't exposed until the Black Hat conference.

    Nothing is foolproof. All OS are vulnerable. Which is precisely why I'd like to see Google to step up their game a bit for their users' security.
     
  15. lilo

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    It's irrelevant that this particular app did not steal data. The important thing is that it could (if the developer wanted to) and Apple would not be able to detect it. Apple pulled the app only after the news was all over the Internet. Google can do the same. If anything iPhone users are in worse shape because they do not get any information about the permissions requested by the app (probably because of the presumed - and non-existent - security of iOS platform)
     
  16. tekonus

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    Exactly... that was kinda my point. :p
     
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    Lookout reported the issue. I tried lookout after i heard about it and it didn't even flag the wallpaper app they reported on.

    antivirus free did - and removed it.
     
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    Sure, but then there'd be a lengthy approval process with big fees and such, and it'd take a long time to get apps into the Marketplace... people would be complaining about Android's "walled garden" and blah blah blah... you can't have it both ways.
     
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    It sounds like the developer has reasonable explanations and it was all exaggerated at first anyway.
     
  20. Benclayton

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    I use common sense.
     
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    how do i know if i have spy ware on my phone
    i got app task running but i dont know what the heck any of them are or if they came on phone or not
     
  23. CrimsonPride

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    Most of these things are blown out of proportion but its true, when youre as open as google, that people are going to take advantage of it. so for me i just read the permissions, if i think an app doesnt need a permission it asks for i dont download it.

    the apple store has had apps that have been removed because it was thought that information was sent from the users phone. the thing with apple is you have to have a mac to write their programs i believe, and i know you have to pay a pretty large sum of money to even put your app in their store, and i believe they even take some of the money from each app downloaded. google sends all the money to the devs and there are no huge sums of money they have to pay to get their apps out there.

    but i would still much rather buy and install free apps from the android market than have 1 penny go to the communists over at apple
     
  24. tekonus

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    You're wrong about 2 things.
    -There are startup costs for developing on both iOS and Android. The cost is less on Android, however. You are right in saying that you need to develop on a mac.
    -Google and Apple both take a cut of paid apps. I believe it is around 30%.
     
  25. ulbonado

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    That's well and good, but I should point out that the most recent spyware brouhaha related to apps that actually rooted the phone on the sly, which means that the permissions you think are assigned mean nothing.
     

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