When the esteem come out the revolution devs flocked to our forums for system pulls and the such, they wanted gingerbread. We help and they fell off the map. All the LG esteem people is want the gethib on the clockworkmod for your device. I just wanna say the devs are being snobs on the revo forum,we have lost alot of phones because of the revo devs hidig in their lil world. PS: revo devs this is android open source community. This is not I.o.s!