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Will moto droid x update to 2.3 gingerbread?

Where does it say that Gingerbread(2.3) will be the update for the Droid X? What about Icecream Sandwich(2.4)?

I can believe it to be the last update the original Droid will get, but definitely not the X.

Mototrola is end-of-lifeing the DX in march, and will not be updating it after that. That was my understanding anyways. Besides, I doubt if any updates beyond 2.3 will be able to run on the DX anyways. But its all speculation now, nothing official. And no, a 2nd-hand report of what a Verizon tech support rep said does not count as official. Not even a little.
 
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I spoke to a Verizon rep in Tech Support two days ago...he also owns a DX...seemed fairly knowledgeable...he assured me the DX would get gingerbread...and that would be the last update that the DX would receive...just passing the info along...

by the way, I'm really alfred...

If 2.3 really is the last we will see, then Moto better unlock the damn bootloader so those of us who signed a 2 year contract won't be stuck at 2.3 when 2.4+ comes out. It wouldn't be a big deal if we had full access to our phones and the OTAs stopped at 2.3 cause our awesome devs would push this phone to its limits
 
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All kinds of guesswork going on, I'm gonna throw my contribution in the ring here...

I can't see us NOT getting GB. Even though the Droid X EOL is in March, this phone is still a best seller and to alienate all these customers by leaving the phone at 2.2.1 or 2.2.2 would hurt Verizon's reputation (and therefore its bottom line) more than the expense of an update to 2.3 (again this is just my opinion). Even after March's EOL date, this phone will still serve us well for a long time to come - its one of the best (if not THE best) single-core 1Ghz processor phones of all time - we know this and Verizon knows it as well.

Also if you look at the Original Droid, it has been updated to 2.2.1 well past its EOL date. If Verizon stays consistent, we'll definitely see GB and perhaps Honeycomb as well. On top of that, there's rooting and ROMming options that we have which can get us most of the way to whatever update/version we can't get officially. Gotta love them 'velopers :D

OK, that's my .02 cents...

And Kevin - welcome to the forum!
(You'll find we're a "lively" bunch...)
 
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How is it Motorola's fault or responsibility that you signed a two year contract with Verizon?


Placing blame with the consumer is the wrong way to go. We need to ask what is a reasonable time for a phone to be supported?
And in that case 2 years is not unreasonable. I suspect that the low end android handsets will come out for this year with many of them only have a single core 1Ghz processor. So it should not be hardware limiting the updating. And many here upgrade all the time but when you look at the general public they will buy a phone on a normal contract and just expect it to get upgrades. Windows XP has been EOL for a while now yet it still gets upgrades. And most of general public think that is just the way it should be weither right or wrong.
The support of the handset is more about perception than anything. If the handset and mobile carriers start only providing software for 1 year it will look bad. Especially when you look at most of the major carriers here in the US. Verizon is the only one that offers 1 year contracts as an option. Thing is you have to look for it. Everything defaults to 2 years and if you are in a retail location there is no mention of a 1 year. Add in the fact that most authorized retailers either can't or won't do 1 year deals it gets even worse. To the public the authorized retailer is them even though it is not.
This comes back to the handset makers putting skins on devices. It takes time and effort to do it and has to be done for each device. If they don't want to support the device then stop making the overlays and leave it up to google to get the new software out and let the upgrade happen. There reaches a point that all devices loose their usefulness but I would argue that one year is not at that point for most devices.
 
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Welcome new noob. What is your rush? The phone was released on July 15th 2010 with 2.1 and since then we have received 2.2. How much more do you expect in 6 months? I suggest you wait and watch what happens regarding the bootloaded situation. If its hacked to bits and killed, or should moto do away with it voluntarily we will likely see far more than 2.3 on our phone.
 
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If Moto drops support I won't be buying another phone from them, End Of Story. They will lose many customers. Because THEY locked the bootloader. By doing this they took the extra development work on themselves. If they had not then there should be no issues flashing ANY future version of android other than hardware limitations.

if I wanted a phone that would have a 6 month lifespan, with a bunch of locked down apps and software I would have bought an iphone. Oh wait, even iphones are supported longer than that.
 
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We need to ask what is a reasonable time for a phone to be supported?

I find most of your post to be pretty reasonable and I agree with a lot of it.

However, I still think it's important to distinguish the supplier of the hardware and the software from the carrier of our wireless service. The fact that Verizon will subsidize the phone over 2 years because you will pay them a monthly fee has nothing to do with Motorola supporting the device's feature upgrades for that time.

I think it's unreasonable to say things like, "well I signed a contract, so they better support it."
 
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I find most of your post to be pretty reasonable and I agree with a lot of it.

However, I still think it's important to distinguish the supplier of the hardware and the software from the carrier of our wireless service. The fact that Verizon will subsidize the phone over 2 years because you will pay them a monthly fee has nothing to do with Motorola supporting the device's feature upgrades for that time.

I think it's unreasonable to say things like, "well I signed a contract, so they better support it."
I understand both sides of the argument, here's my take.

Considering that the vast majority of handsets are sold with two year contracts, it is not unreasonable to expect that the manufacturer will support for at least that term. However, I don't think "we" the consumer have to worry about such technicalities, as Verizon has already committed Motorola to support the device for that long.

In other words, Verizon's only interest is making money. They make money by having happy customers who continually resign contracts. Poor support by a manufacturer won't be tolerated, and Verizon and Motorola work hard to ensure that any issues are resolved in a reasonable manner.

The definition of "reasonable" of course can wildly vary, since some may think that never getting 2.3 since it was never promised is reasonable, and others who think that would be unacceptable and want Moto to burn in hell.

From a legal stance, Verizon will force Motorola to provide updates to the device that ensure it's proper operation as originally marketed. That means bug fixes, even if past EOL, will still be delivered. EOL only affects sales, not future support.
So consider anything past bug fixes to be gravy. I'd like to see 2.3, but not counting on it. To be honest, nothing in 2.3 rings as a must have feature that 2.2 had.

On a separate note, I'd love it if after a certain time the bootloader got unlocked.
 
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Mototrola is end-of-lifeing the DX in march, and will not be updating it after that. That was my understanding anyways. Besides, I doubt if any updates beyond 2.3 will be able to run on the DX anyways. But its all speculation now, nothing official. And no, a 2nd-hand report of what a Verizon tech support rep said does not count as official. Not even a little.

Moto's not end of lifing the DX, Verizon is. That means verizon will stop stocking new DX's and sell them until they run out...

end of life doesn't necessarily mean end of support. lot's of verizon phone have reached their end of life but are still supported.

also, my 2 cents on the DX getting GB...while no one knows definitively (especially some CSR at Verizon who probably sounded knowledgable b/c they read/participate in a forum like this one), I'm betting it updates...if you look at the current offerrings from both verizon and moto, the DX is still the flagship device for both...

outside of this, if you are already rooted and using ROMs then this line of questioning is a irrelevant, just load the new ROMs...if you haven't rooted/ROMed, and you want the higher builds, then my suggestion is to root/ROM b/c google has confirmed for Froyo, Gingerbread, and anything to come has no strict minimum requirements to run, meaning, load it, if it works, then great you just got the newest release...
 
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I understand both sides of the argument, here's my take.

Considering that the vast majority of handsets are sold with two year contracts, it is not unreasonable to expect that the manufacturer will support for at least that term. However, I don't think "we" the consumer have to worry about such technicalities, as Verizon has already committed Motorola to support the device for that long.

In other words, Verizon's only interest is making money. They make money by having happy customers who continually resign contracts. Poor support by a manufacturer won't be tolerated, and Verizon and Motorola work hard to ensure that any issues are resolved in a reasonable manner.

The definition of "reasonable" of course can wildly vary, since some may think that never getting 2.3 since it was never promised is reasonable, and others who think that would be unacceptable and want Moto to burn in hell.

From a legal stance, Verizon will force Motorola to provide updates to the device that ensure it's proper operation as originally marketed. That means bug fixes, even if past EOL, will still be delivered. EOL only affects sales, not future support.
So consider anything past bug fixes to be gravy. I'd like to see 2.3, but not counting on it. To be honest, nothing in 2.3 rings as a must have feature that 2.2 had.

On a separate note, I'd love it if after a certain time the bootloader got unlocked.

+1 to the above. My gut feeling is that we will get Gingerbread (although it may take a few months). I think we will see an update to 2.2.2 to fix issues with 2.2.1 before that though.

I doubt Moto/Vzw will ever unlock the bootloader, but if I'm wrong no one will happier about it than me :D

Right now on 2.2.1 my DX is running extremely well and I'm very happy with it - I think the upgrade support has been excellent. I've had 2 OTA's since I got the phone mid-September and both have improved performance and fixed issues such as the batt mgr force-closing. A better cut/paste functionality is among the next improvements I would like to see in GB, along with another improvement to battery life, less lag, etc. But as I said I'm very happy with it as is. We'll see what happens in the next few months...
 
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