Root Yet Another Newb Thread

[Kij]

Okay guys, I'm somewhat new to rooting. I've got a Sprint Evo 4G with 2.3.3 and baseband version 2.15.00.0808, if that's what revolutionary's page is referring to.

I rooted my LG Optimus M w/ 2.2 using Gingerbreak and that was as simple and painless as can be. I wasn't really that worried about it because it's a cheap phone.

So the problem is...I'm completely overwhelmed at the moment. I've been reading the "Newb Guide To Rooting" from this forum and it's gotten me to the point of feeling somewhat confident in casting hesitation and caution aside, but, not all the way.

I want to know if all of this is completely reversible, no matter what? I know that the potential to ruin the phone completely is there. I assume that's only if I install some crud or start messing around with unknown ROMs...right?

The main purpose, for me at least, for rooting my phone, is to gain better performance via uninstalling the bloatware and other non-essential items. I do not know if a custom ROM will further this goal? I'm annoyed with the stock HTC Sense garbage that disallows me from using the traditional "draw to unlock" sequence. Well...makes it very annoying to use, I guess you could say, since you have to slide to unlock, THEN draw the code.

I wouldn't mind a custom ROM but I don't even know where to begin there...heck I'm not even completely sure if "custom ROM" refers to altering the way the entire phone looks? Or is that a kernel? *headdesk*

 

[myea_one]

Okay guys, I'm somewhat new to rooting. I've got a Sprint Evo 4G with 2.3.3 and baseband version 2.15.00.0808, if that's what revolutionary's page is referring to.

I rooted my LG Optimus M w/ 2.2 using Gingerbreak and that was as simple and painless as can be. I wasn't really that worried about it because it's a cheap phone.

So the problem is...I'm completely overwhelmed at the moment. I've been reading the "Newb Guide To Rooting" from this forum and it's gotten me to the point of feeling somewhat confident in casting hesitation and caution aside, but, not all the way.

I want to know if all of this is completely reversible, no matter what? I know that the potential to ruin the phone completely is there. I assume that's only if I install some crud or start messing around with unknown ROMs...right?

The main purpose, for me at least, for rooting my phone, is to gain better performance via uninstalling the bloatware and other non-essential items. I do not know if a custom ROM will further this goal? I'm annoyed with the stock HTC Sense garbage that disallows me from using the traditional "draw to unlock" sequence. Well...makes it very annoying to use, I guess you could say, since you have to slide to unlock, THEN draw the code.

I wouldn't mind a custom ROM but I don't even know where to begin there...heck I'm not even completely sure if "custom ROM" refers to altering the way the entire phone looks? Or is that a kernel? *headdesk*

Only this i can say is make a nandroid backup and from there your can do alot with the phone. If anything ever goes wrong just revert back to that backup and restore. Rooting with revolutionary is now reversible, there should be a thread or sticky about it, ill see If i can post the link for you. All I can say is read up and try different things. On the other hand if all you want is to remove bloatware, stay stock.
Try out the mik3d ROM It's pretty stable and good to start with, thats what I did. Then from there try a different kernel. Like I said read up on how to flash, It's easy I was In your situation a month ago, all i did was read.

 

[Kij]

Only this i can say is make a nandroid backup and from there your can do alot with the phone. If anything ever goes wrong just revert back to that backup and restore. Rooting with revolutionary is now reversible, there should be a thread or sticky about it, ill see If i can post the link for you. All I can say is read up and try different things. On the other hand if all you want is to remove bloatware, stay stock

Well, that's not the only thing I want to do. It is the MAIN thing I want to do, though. I just find my battery life lacking and I am sure it's because of all the garbage running on the phone that I will NEVER use. Like Sprint TV and NASCAR and other "bloatware". I'm running my screen at 25% brightness, 80% or more of the time. I'm also only using 4G very occasionally. What the phone spends most of its time doing is idling...yet it's a struggle to get it to last all day, and it's brand new.

 

[myea_one]

Also post as many questions as you want, everyone here is very helpful. Do searches before starting new threads because there is a thread for everything and you can 9 times out of 10 answer your own questions by reading and researching.

 

[myea_one]

Well, that's not the only thing I want to do. It is the MAIN thing I want to do, though. I just find my battery life lacking and I am sure it's because of all the garbage running on the phone that I will NEVER use. Like Sprint TV and NASCAR and other "bloatware". I'm running my screen at 25% brightness, 80% or more of the time. I'm also only using 4G very occasionally. What the phone spends most of its time doing is idling...yet it's a struggle to get it to last all day, and it's brand new.

Well as far as battery life, you can improve it a bit don't expect 2 days with no charging, set some small goals to start. If you flash a new kernal they have an app called setcpu, and with the new kernel you can overclock, or speed up the phone, or underclock, slow it down when not In use, like on screen off. Like i said if you search setcpu in the forums, you can get It for free, sorry don't mean to be cheap and take away from the dev, and go from there.

Go in the market an dl titanium backup, it should be In the rooting essentials sticky, from there you can delete bloatware from your phone, make sure you know what you deleting. I posted a link for the xda website that had a list for safe to remove apps. If you purchase the pro version of tb it will let you freeze the app before deletion, so if your phone doesn't miss it...ie, it still runs good with the app frozen, delete it!

 

[myea_one]

http:// http://androidforums.com/evo-4g-all-things-root/347271-htc-evo-4g-rooting-essentials-here.html

http:// http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=7918683&postcount=1

Use these links....very helpful

 

[Kij]

http:// http://androidforums.com/evo-4g-all-things-root/347271-htc-evo-4g-rooting-essentials-here.html

http:// http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=7918683&postcount=1

Use these links....very helpful

Neither of those two links worked. However, I had already been browsing the xda site and found the "what not to delete" apps. Thanks!

 

[dustwun77]

It isn't complete though, I have taken off some stuff it doesn't mention. that is how that TB Pro function Myea was talking about is helpful. If you Freeze it, and you have no problems, you can probably delete it. having a good nandroid is a good idea too.

 

[myea_one]

Neither of those two links worked. However, I had already been browsing the xda site and found the "what not to delete" apps. Thanks!

http://androidforums.com/evo-4g-all-things-root/347271-htc-evo-4g-rooting-essentials-here.html

xda-developers - View Single Post - [WIP] /system/app APK's - Safe to remove list and functions

Srry

 

[argedion]

Be Careful with SetCPU with some Roms they have their own Version a CPU Manager. CM7 for instance is one and if you try to run SetCPU with it you will run into some issues. Also with SetCPU make sure you dont check the start at boot until you know your settings are running smooth. Also you will need to give ROMs and Kernels a few days to "Settle" before you can be certain of the way its going to work or not.

Titanium is your Friend Get to know it and love it.

NANDROIDS ARE ESSENTIAL to life if you dont have them you'll be sorry.Alway Always Always Always do a NANDROID before doing anything to the phone.

 

[dustwun77]

And take the opportunity to copy your nandroids to your pc regularly, as well!

 

[Kij]

Well, I was able to root the phone with no problems at all. I followed the instructions from the "For Dummies" sticky and now everything is a-okay.

My next question would be...how do I install a custom ROM? I can't find the page on that.

P.S. - I have a NANDROID backup sitting on the desktop of my computer with a wimax entry. This is the backed up version of the phone as it was before anything was done but after root.

Thanks!

 

[NaterTots]

My next question would be...how do I install a custom ROM? I can't find the page on that.


Thanks!

It is in the same link. Under the "Rooting for Dummies" go to the tab that says "flashing". That will tell you the steps to follow so as to install a new ROM on your phone.

Oh Congrats on Rooting!

 

[DaRayvn]

Well, I was able to root the phone with no problems at all. I followed the instructions from the "For Dummies" sticky and now everything is a-okay.

My next question would be...how do I install a custom ROM? I can't find the page on that.

P.S. - I have a NANDROID backup sitting on the desktop of my computer with a wimax entry. This is the backed up version of the phone as it was before anything was done but after root.

Thanks!

it tells you how...look under flashing and the roms, kernels, themes and more

http://androidforums.com/evo-4g-all...ooting-dummies-guide-gingerbread-edition.html

keep that nandroid somewhere safe on the comp...you may need it in the future if you ever have to return your phone...or if you lose your wimax keys, 4g is going bye bye lol...

 

[Kij]

It is in the same link. Under the "Rooting for Dummies" go to the tab that says "flashing". That will tell you the steps to follow so as to install a new ROM on your phone.

Oh Congrats on Rooting!

Yep! Was easy as pie as soon as I got over the "oh #$%@ I'm gonna ruin my phone". Hehe...ended up with CyanogenMod7! Loving it. SOOO much better on battery...while it's idling at least. Seems pretty battery-intensive when in-use but since my phone spends most of its time idling anyway, I find it perfect. I was able to work for 8hrs today, using my phone intermittently, and go from a 100% charge down to only an 88% charge. MUCH better than before - stock system drained the hell out of my battery even while idling and I'd be needing a recharge by the time I got home. What's funny was I wasn't even running any apps or anything...just bare minimum stuff! Ridiculous!

 

[NaterTots]

Kij, Congrats on getting it to work. Welcome to a whole new world of Flashing Rom's.
Enjoy!

There is a little bit of anxiety but once you get there it seems so easy. Especially with the great step by step that is in this forum.


Naters

 

[ocnbrze]

Yep! Was easy as pie as soon as I got over the "oh #$%@ I'm gonna ruin my phone". Hehe...ended up with CyanogenMod7! Loving it. SOOO much better on battery...while it's idling at least. Seems pretty battery-intensive when in-use but since my phone spends most of its time idling anyway, I find it perfect. I was able to work for 8hrs today, using my phone intermittently, and go from a 100% charge down to only an 88% charge. MUCH better than before - stock system drained the hell out of my battery even while idling and I'd be needing a recharge by the time I got home. What's funny was I wasn't even running any apps or anything...just bare minimum stuff! Ridiculous!

i would also read up on kernels. read this:http://androidforums.com/evo-4g-all-things-root/389360-kernels-dummies.html. once you do that i would reccommend that you try the tiamat sbc 4.0.8 kernel. i had 30 hrs of battery life with 30% left.

 

[MizzouBrent]

i would also read up on kernels. read this:http://androidforums.com/evo-4g-all-things-root/389360-kernels-dummies.html. once you do that i would reccommend that you try the tiamat sbc 4.0.8 kernel. i had 30 hrs of battery life with 30% left.

Dang that's impressive. My phone doesn't seem to like 4.0.8 quite as much so I flashed savagedzen 2.2.1 cfs. I don't think I could ever get they much use out of my phone though regardless of kernel.

 

[ocnbrze]

Dang that's impressive. My phone doesn't seem to like 4.0.8 quite as much so I flashed savagedzen 2.2.1 cfs. I don't think I could ever get they much use out of my phone though regardless of kernel.

yeah, well yesterday i got maybe 18 hrs when it hit 9% battery left. of course i had my 3g signal on where the signal was not that great.