Do you still use Facebook? Why?!

[mikedt]

My new phone won't let me...its OWNER...uninstall facebook and its associated apps.

The best I can do, and have done, is 'disable' them.

But it pisses me off that I can't obliterate them from MY PHONE, you know?

The only device I've seen like that, with Facebook as system, was a PCCW variant Samsung Galaxy S3 that came from Hong Kong.
I posted about it years ago on AF, with it consuming excessive data in mainland China.

That's the price of carrier subsidized phones, the carriers get kickback from the likes of FB. It's “MY PHONE" but really it belongs to the carrier who subsidized it.

 

[MoodyBlues]

The only device I've seen like that, with Facebook as system, was a PCCW variant Samsung Galaxy S3 that came from Hong Kong.
I posted about it years ago on AF, with it consuming excessive data in mainland China.

That's the price of carrier subsidized phones, the carriers get kickback from the likes of FB. It's “MY PHONE" but really it belongs to the carrier who subsidized it.

I guess I assumed that buying straight from Motorola would mean not having crap like that included.

But, really, by WHAT stretch of the imagination is fb an AT&T or Motorola app?!

 

[MoodyBlues]

On the subject of social media, LinkedIn gets more like Twitter/Facebook every day.

It's probably been 10 years since I logged in to LinkedIn. Can you kind of fill me in?

 

[GameTheory]

I guess I assumed that buying straight from Motorola would mean not having crap like that included.

But, really, by WHAT stretch of the imagination is fb an AT&T or Motorola app?!

Didn't you hear? Motorola is the latest company to sell its soul to Facebook... As FB is aiming to revive Skynet.

 

[mikedt]

FB + Lenovorola will be their way into China.

 

[Deleted User]

It's probably been 10 years since I logged in to LinkedIn. Can you kind of fill me in?

Oh it's just a general trend of people commenting on things, getting argumentative, as people tend to do on social media. I don't really want to read that kind of stuff as I get sent enough garbage from recruitment droids.

 

[Deleted User]

Didn't you hear? Motorola is the latest company to sell its soul to Facebook... As FB is aiming to revive Skynet.

Do you mean project Aquila? That really is a Sky Net.
Claim to fame: My previous company had a part in developing the power management system for their solar powered plane.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Facebook_Aquila

 

[Deleted User]

Do you mean project Aquila? That really is a Sky Net.
Claim to fame: My previous company had a part in developing the power management system for their solar powered plane.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Facebook_Aquila

Looks like Aquila has crashed and burned

https://www.theregister.co.uk/2018/06/27/facebook_kills_aquila/

 

[GameTheory]

Looks like Aquila has crashed and burned

https://www.theregister.co.uk/2018/06/27/facebook_kills_aquila/

Had they gone the satellite blanket route, Aquila might still be alive.

 

[Notes_Norton]

No I do not. I also deleted my data (plenty of sites tell you how)

1) Anyone who uses is fraud (fake news is fraud - let's not minimize that) combined with spying of their members clicks and likes to throw an election is not going to make money from me. I don't care if it was for the candidate I liked or disliked, this is inexcusable. This is un-American. This should be illegal, and IMHO they should be jailed for treason for at least 50 years.

2) Since I have my own domain, I set up an email address using a string of pseudo-random numbers and letters @ my domain. I used it nowhere else except at Facebook, I used it only once to respond to my FB registration and in a month I was getting spam at that address. Some of it seemed to be phishing attacks. So not only did FB sell my name and surfing habits to legitimate advertisers, but also to spammers and hackers.

Z is neither a nice nor honest person. Remember he was hired to develop this software, STOLE it from the people who hired him, lost the lawsuit, and had to pa 9 million dollars to them.

I will not support such a slimy enterprise by letting them sell my likes or clicks.

 

[MoodyBlues]

No I do not. I also deleted my data (plenty of sites tell you how)

1) Anyone who uses is fraud (fake news is fraud - let's not minimize that) combined with spying of their members clicks and likes to throw an election is not going to make money from me. I don't care if it was for the candidate I liked or disliked, this is inexcusable. This is un-American. This should be illegal, and IMHO they should be jailed for treason for at least 50 years.

2) Since I have my own domain, I set up an email address using a string of pseudo-random numbers and letters @ my domain. I used it nowhere else except at Facebook, I used it only once to respond to my FB registration and in a month I was getting spam at that address. Some of it seemed to be phishing attacks. So not only did FB sell my name and surfing habits to legitimate advertisers, but also to spammers and hackers.

Z is neither a nice nor honest person. Remember he was hired to develop this software, STOLE it from the people who hired him, lost the lawsuit, and had to pa 9 million dollars to them.

I will not support such a slimy enterprise by letting them sell my likes or clicks.

Bravo! This is my favorite reply so far.

I have my own domains, too, and do what you did, basically. I give each site a unique, identifying email address. For example, if I'm giving my address to somewebsite.com, the address would look something like somewebsitevisitor@mydomain.com. If I ever receive mail at that address that doesn't originate at somewebsite.com, I KNOW where they got it. I use catchall mail on my domains, so I'm free to make these addresses up on the fly, and they all arrive in one specific mailbox.

As for fb and the 2016 election, I couldn't agree more. And, like you, it doesn't matter to me which candidate it helped--it's wrong, period, and requires severe punishment.

 

[MoodyBlues]

Oh it's just a general trend of people commenting on things, getting argumentative, as people tend to do on social media. I don't really want to read that kind of stuff as I get sent enough garbage from recruitment droids.

Thanks, LV. I'm glad I no longer log in!

 

[Deleted User]

2) Since I have my own domain, I set up an email address using a string of pseudo-random numbers and letters @ my domain. I used it nowhere else except at Facebook, I used it only once to respond to my FB registration and in a month I was getting spam at that address. Some of it seemed to be phishing attacks. So not only did FB sell my name and surfing habits to legitimate advertisers, but also to spammers and hackers

I'm not defending Facebook in any way here, but they probably have some clause in their T&C, which you agree to when signing up for a FB account, that allows them to pass on your details to certain third parties. Again, not defending them, but they are surely not alone in this practice.

 

[NnamAries]

Well it does provide some quick gossip, update, and interaction with friends, but I am not big on it, yet not apathetic either.

 

[Notes_Norton]

I'm not defending Facebook in any way here, but they probably have some clause in their T&C, which you agree to when signing up for a FB account, that allows them to pass on your details to certain third parties. Again, not defending them, but they are surely not alone in this practice.

Yes but to hackers? Those phishing for my bank account number. I don't care if they sell it to someone who offers me products, but selling to hackers via phishing attempts is just plain evil. That makes them accomplices in the crime.

And sending out fraudulent stories to users dependent on their clicks to sway an election is treason. Sending true stories is bad enough, but out and out fraudulent lies to sway an election is something they should be jailed for.

Notes

 

[Deleted User]

Yes but to hackers?

Not directly, no. But you know how this goes. Once your details are shared, they could then be passed on to someone more unscrupulous.
Unfortunately it's the downside of the information age.

 

[Notes_Norton]

Not directly, no. But you know how this goes. Once your details are shared, they could then be passed on to someone more unscrupulous.
Unfortunately it's the downside of the information age.

Since I shared that address with nobody but FB, and only used it once, the responsibility lies squarely on their shoulders.

And what about the anti-democratic ways of use out and out fraud to throw an election? Do you feel good about FB using the money they make from you to undermine the very democracy of the United States of America?

 

[Deleted User]

And what about the anti-democratic ways of use out and out fraud to throw an election? Do you feel good about FB using the money they make from you to undermine the very democracy of the United States of America?

That's a subject for discussion in P&CA.

 

[Unforgiven]

Let's make sure we keep this politics free and before it needs to be said, let me add that folks should please, attack the issue, not each other.

 

[MoodyBlues]

Let's make sure we keep this politics free and before it needs to be said, let me add that folks should please, attack the issue, not each other.

Thank you, @Unforgiven. The last thing I want is for this thread to get locked!

There's tons of insidious, despicable, egregious, covert behavior from fb to talk about, with no one here being attacked.

 

[Silvarro]

It's in everyone's best interest to put as little information on their profile as possible because information = revenue.

 

[Notes_Norton]

To stay non-political, I won't get into either party or candidate.

But I think most of us can agree that if someone uses fraud to rig an election, whether it is for the candidate we voted for or the 'other one', it's still wrong to use fraud to rig an election.

 

[Unforgiven]

To stay non-political, I won't get into either party or candidate.

But I think most of us can agree that if someone uses fraud to rig an election, whether it is for the candidate we voted for or the 'other one', it's still wrong to use fraud to rig an election.

I would agree that statement is both apolitical and true.

 

[Deleted User]

I would agree with that. But to get back to the point about your information being shared by Facebook - yes it happens, and their whole business model is based on targeting you with relevant ads. Are they alone in this? No, you get bombarded with ads by other websites, and if your browser cookies are accessible then it's a piece of cake for them to snoop your history.

 

[mikedt]

FWIW I've recently found and joined a couple of groups for my primary and secondary schools. And it's great seeing names of old school friends coming up, that I've not seen or heard of for over forty years. There might even be some meet-ups coming this summer, when I'm next in the UK.

This is a definite reason for me to keep using FB. Don't know how accurate FB ad tracking is though, but I've been seeing a lot of FB ads for some campaign with signing a petition to impeach Donald Trump. Of course I'm not even in the USA.