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Your iPhone is Tracking Your Every Move

Playing Devil's Advocate for now, why is it worse? I don't condone it, especially if this sort of information gathering is done surreptitiously (like Google and the Streetview wifi fiasco).
But if it has indeed been in Apple's T&C's for years, then it speaks volumes about their customers that there hasn't been a furore long before.
 
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It would be very interesting if the police used the data from someone's iphone to place them at the scene of a crime.

A case like that could cause this issue to really hit the fan.

Not that accurate I believe ..... triangulates from telephone transmitters not GPS.
Anyway even if it was accurate it would place the phone not you at any location .... a half decent defence council would rung rings around that type of "evidence".

While we are on the subject I have to say all this paranoia being whipped up by the media regarding logging of positions - my thoughts are -so what.

If Apple, HTC or whoever want to fill their servers with useless information regarding my daily drive to and from work that's up to them.
 
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If Apple, HTC or whoever want to fill their servers with useless information regarding my daily drive to and from work that's up to them.

But that's the point isn't it. It isn't up to them, it should be up to us. You make it sound like they have some kind of right to collect geographical information of our whereabouts. I can assure you they do not.

In the developed world, one of our key principles is freedom. I should be able to go anywhere I want, without anyone else knowing (unless seen obviously). The idea that now, some multinational corporation could be clocking my every move is sickening. I don't care whether they actually use it or who has access to it. The fact remains there is something tracking every step I take.

I will quote 1984 just for drama :p

"Nothing was your own except the few cubic centimetres inside your skull."

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And, I realise that in moderation this may be minimal. These dystopia novels all give a similar message. They warn of 2 things...

1. The horrors of true state control and oppression.
2. The complicity of the public to do nothing about this. To sit back and watch until it is too late.

Call me cynical, but the public's reaction to this, in a way, demonstrates number 2.
 
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Not that accurate I believe ..... triangulates from telephone transmitters not GPS.
Anyway even if it was accurate it would place the phone not you at any location .... a half decent defence council would rung rings around that type of "evidence".
While that's true, the prosecution will still add any sliver of evidence they can when they build a case.

But my point is not whether it will hold water in court or not, it's the possibility that if this locational data was used as evidence(weak or whatever), it could catapult the issue to the forefront of public debate.

I would personally like to see that happen.
 
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But that's the point isn't it. It isn't up to them, it should be up to us. You make it sound like they have some kind of right to collect geographical information of our whereabouts. I can assure you they do not.

In the developed world, one of our key principles is freedom. I should be able to go anywhere I want, without anyone else knowing (unless seen obviously). The idea that now, some multinational corporation could be clocking my every move is sickening. I don't care whether they actually use it or who has access to it. The fact remains there is something tracking every step I take.

I will quote 1984 just for drama :p

"Nothing was your own except the few cubic centimetres inside your skull."

--------------

And, I realise that in moderation this may be minimal. These dystopia novels all give a similar message. They warn of 2 things...

1. The horrors of true state control and oppression.
2. The complicity of the public to do nothing about this. To sit back and watch until it is too late.

Call me cynical, but the public's reaction to this, in a way, demonstrates number 2.

The point of my posting was that I really don't care if this data is gathered ...and as I have pointed out if you have a mobile device you can be tracked anyway and so possession of such a device acccepts this limit to your "freedom".

You may as well complain that the Post Office know EXACTLY where you live....... or Speed cameras can identify your car ....how dare they invade my right to Privacy.;)

Whilst I accept that anyone who takes the Big Brother role is worthy of suspicion my point is that this the information is of no use and in my opinion for 99% of the population unlikley in the extreme to affect personal freedom.

1984 , Big Brother and all that ...... paranoia for Daily Mail readers.:D
 
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While that's true, the prosecution will still add any sliver of evidence they can when they build a case.

But my point is not whether it will hold water in court or not, it's the possibility that if this locational data was used as evidence(weak or whatever), it could catapult the issue to the forefront of public debate.

I would personally like to see that happen.

Cell phone location data is stored by the phone networks anyway so can be accessed by the police if necessary.
 
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Before anyone gets too excited jumping on the iPhone bandwagon of hate...

Android phones keep location cache, too, but it's harder to access
Additionally, you have to have physical access to the phone or computer it syncs with to pull the info. None of the info has been culled by Apple, unlike when Google was pulling info from their vans.

Without physical access to the hardware, this is a moot point anyway. But, any iPhone user can turn this off. Jailbreak the phone and download a simple app. Turns off the tracking feature completely.
 
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